Dam Jadiid vs. A Man Who Is...

[The`Republic]

Dam Jadiid vs. A Man Who Is...

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Why pick a man with the qualities of Dr Abdiwali Sheekh Ahmed, ESPECIALLY after seeing how Gentleman and Compromising Saacid Shirdoon was thrown under the bus, and expect this man would not shake things up?

It makes no sense to me. They settled on him BECAUSE of his qualities; both for what he can provide in momentum to the government and the confidence his naming will bring to the international community.

How then do you expect this man to not practice the qualities you saw in him---namely being an executive who plans, runs, and executes things and has executed projects worth more than Somalia made in 60 years?

Makes no sense. It is so early in the game with his name that Dam Jadiid is totally without any support against the PM and the PM has ALREADY announced what kind of leadership he will bring after he decided to wage war on the cabinet----something Dam Jadiid thought would be decided in 2 minutes in the President's office.

The PM has the Constitution on his side and it gives him almost all the government's powers. The rest belong to the Ministers and naming them is a way to say I own this government. Abdiwali has chosen to get a government that works under HIS control.

Under Saacid's tenure, Dam Jadiid was the driver and front and center.

Under's Abdiwali's tenure, Dam Jadiid at best will be behind the driver in second place and at worst behind the bus.

[LightAtNight]

"the Constitution on his side and it gives him almost all the government's powers" wrong, the constitution is actually quite unclear about the powers of the president and the prime minister, this is what has caused the power struggles that we have witnessed in the past. As you may recall, during the struggle between saacid and the president, the supporters of each side were arguing that they have the right to appoint ministers of the government.

The prime minister is not on an equal par to the president as the president was actually elected. The pm is subordinate and is suppose to carry out the instructions of the president. Suppose the pm was head of the government, then why would a president be even elected as he is clearly not needed. And why would a guy who was appointed have more powers than the one who was elected, this constitution seems to me full of contradictions and needs to be sorted.
Somalis should have been aware whilst they were working on the constitution in coordination with their overlords that NEVER can a country be ruled by two leaders. One has to have the upper hand and have a final say on things. There can never be two kings in one Kingdom or two heads of a house, its just doesnt work and is against natural law. The Somalis didnt probably have a lot of say in the drafting of the constitution, but at least they should have looked at the articles which talk about power sharing and seek a solution, coz this has been a recurring problem. I personally believe that the constitution was designed to be against the resurgence of the Somali state, its was intended to cripple it and make the process as slow and painful as possible.

[SultanOrder]

I think it is still too early to tell, and Dam Jadiid are still very powerful.

Muslimstruggler, the president and parliament are suppose to be elected, and then the biggest party or coalition in parliament is suppose to pick the PM by basically saying we will only approve this guy so nominate him. But things are all messed up because Parliament is not made of parties but selected clan representatives.

[BlackRain]

It will be an interesting battle in which the Prime Minister will find himself in a win-win situation. If he's fired less than a month after being sworn in then he will get the sympathy of all Somalis and the intentional community alike ; and if he wins then it's his government and much respect from everybody

[The`Republic]

Muslim Struggler-

What the hell are you talking about? There has NEVER been disagreement about who has power to name Ministers.

Article 97. The Council of Ministers (3) The Prime Minister shall appoint deputy prime ministers, ministers, state ministers, and deputy
ministers. Those eligible for membership of the Council of Ministers may be, but shall not be
limited to, members of the House of the People of the Federal Parliament.

The government in its total executive sum belongs to the Prime Minister who is the Head of Government. The President is symbolic and Head of State like the President of Ethiopia and the Queen of England. This is a Parliamentary Democracy.

The President has the right to "advice" the PM but the PM picks who and who. Saacid when he came in just signed the list the President wanted him to sign. When he tried to change it after a while and he wouldn't listen to who the President wanted, a diverse coalition of MPs brought a motion against him.

Today those some diverse coalition of MPs have united with the new PM to prevent Dam Jadiid from coming back. The President and Dam Jadiid wanted to do the same thing to this new PM but he said no because he is the only one who can say no. And him and his allies in Parliament wanted to totally remove Dam Jadiid from any running in even deputy-ministers, etc.

The vote will take place Tuesday.

[Tonymontana11]

[hydrogen]

The vote on what?

[The_Patriot]

Now we are talking business.
If C.weli pulls this my respect for reer Diini will be restored.

[The`Republic]

Hydrogen-

Dam Jadiid and the President fought tooth and nail to get Parliament to fire Saacid because Saacid refused to bring back Dam Jadiid in the new Ministers. Presumably people like Farah Abdikhadir and Abdikarim Guled.

The new PM also refused to name people who will not answer to him as their real boss and we are to take the people he refused are the people who undermined Sacid by answering to the President who is not their boss. We are to understand those guys as Dm Jadiid.

Now the allies of the new PM have forced a vote on whether or not ANY minister from Saacid government can come back. They finished the debate and scheduled the vote for Tuesday. The PM will wait the rest of the 10 days he asked and received from Parliament while that vote happen. If Parliament votes Tuesday against bringing back any minister from Saacid the issue is settled permanently in favor of the new PM.

That basically means for the first time since Hassan Sheekh became president, the government will truly belong to the man the constitution empowered which is the PM.

Nabsigii Saaciid who was a true gentleman and compromising guy baa helay Dam Jadiid.

[hydrogen]

Since they got rid of Saacid then it would only be logical to get rid of his ministers otherwise it will just look they had something personal against him. Anyway, I'm totally against that Guleed person coming back so I support this.

[Twisted_Logic]

LOL Temper tantrums before reality sets in. The same boring arguments " he has the support of the constitution" " the parliament will rescue him" & endless tirade of utter bull. Just like the other PM got humiliated in the parliament, this guy will suffer a worse fate if he doesn't know his limitations & do what he's told.

[Bermooda]

Why cant they both just compromise for the sake of the country

*Edited* also this motion is it even constitutionally legal

[Based]

Why cant they both just compromise for the sake of the country

Well said.

I guess some people are comfortable with the status quo

[Bermooda]

One thing i have come to find out is Somalis are the most selfish people that thrive on drama. It's like a drug to them which without they can't function

[BlackRain]

LOL Temper tantrums before reality sets in. The same boring arguments " he has the support of the constitution" " the parliament will rescue him" & endless tirade of utter bull. Just like the other PM got humiliated in the parliament, this guy will suffer a worse fate if he doesn't know his limitations & do what he's told.

do what he's told to do? Why can't the President be the Prime Minister then? If average Moqdisho residents think like this then no way will ever have a government