No mans land in the Somali regions

[AbdiJohnson]

I am sure a good chunk of the lands are not claimed by anyone and if its claimed, its only claimed when they see you on it and become aware that you recently claimed it

Clan ownership of lands shouldn't exist. All uninhabited lands should come under govt control and ownership

If you're not on it, get bent. You probably havent even seen that land for 25 years but you lay claim to it

Nonsense.

I am,

Abdi "You only own what youre in" Johnson

[StormShadow]

Siyaad barre did take land in shabeelada hoose from Biimaal and others for danta guud only to be taken over by hungry mafia. possing as the government.

Land should only bet taken for public use like parks and reaccreations other than that it should remain tribal land like the U.S indian lands. Land+clanis is what defines a somali.

[AbdiJohnson]

I am not talking about stolen farms but tens of miles of open area that not even the nomads use and not have seen since decades

Indian land is limited to reserves and hunting areas. They dont control empty lands

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Abdi "Nomads dont travel more than 2 miles" Johnson

[STARKAST]

Actually nomads travel 100s of miles.

[StormShadow]

I am not talking about stolen farms but tens of miles of open area that not even the nomads use and not have seen since decades

Indian land is limited to reserves and hunting areas. They dont control empty lands

I am,

Abdi "Nomads dont travel more than 2 miles" Johnson

[BoholKing]

There is no such thing as No mans land in Somali areas Lol. Every inch is owned by a community.

[Caesar]

I am sure a good chunk of the lands are not claimed by anyone and if its claimed, its only claimed when they see you on it and become aware that you recently claimed it

Clan ownership of lands shouldn't exist. All uninhabited lands should come under govt control and ownership

If you're not on it, get bent. You probably havent even seen that land for 25 years but you lay claim to it

Nonsense.

I am,

Abdi "You only own what youre in" Johnson

You speak like a minority lol

sorry everything is claimed by a clan, and nothing will ever change that

sucks to be you , if you ask nicely perhaps they will let you rent a small shack on it.

[AbdiJohnson]

Nomads just walk through these areas to get to another area for water and will only claim the area they walked through if someone else lays claim to it sort of like how a baby claims a toy when another baby plays with it. The average nomad doesn't go beyond 5 miles in his entire life. They all have a home they go back to. They look for water and come back. The fact that you can live on a piece of land for decades without being caught by the clan that supposedly owns it just proves my point

There is no clear border between Somali clans/sub clans/sub sub clans/sub sub sub clans. There are buffer zones that go for tens of miles. Theres thousands of these neutral zones that are no mans land

I am,

Abdi "Most clans expanded this way and not through violence" Johnson

[Caesar]

Majority of Somali lands are no mans land. Trust me. Nomads just walk through these areas to get to another area for water and will only claim the area they walked through if someone else lays claim to it sort of like how a baby claims a toy when another baby plays with it. The average nomad doesn't go beyond 5 miles in his entire life. They all have a home they go back to. They look for water and come back

There is no clear border between Somali clans/sub clans/sub sub clans/sub sub sub clans. There are buffer zones that go for tens of miles. Theres thousands of these neutral zones that are no mans land

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Abdi "Most clans expanded this way and not through violence" Johnson

What do you mean trust me, have you ever been back home or not? And if so what reasons

stop talking out of your ass.

Lol are you saying Nomads don't even travel to other cities, dude you're so misinofmred, they even travel to ethiopia/kenya/djibouti to sell livestock lmfao

stop spreading misinformation, everyone owns an area, if you are a minority that missed out to bad, expand with weapons then or nega amus.

[theyuusuf143]

no mans land does not exist, clans own every inch of the land, but in somalikand for example government manages all urban "danta guud" land. citizens can have as much land as they want in their clan areas for farming, construction etc, but you can not just own it with doing nothing, somali livestock have their own rights to have large zone for grazing. every somali goat has more land ownership than the european man, and every somali camel has its own little kingdom of several KMs. lool

[Caesar]

no mans land does not exist, clans own every inch of the land, but in somalikand for example government manages all urban "danta guud" land. citizens can have as much land as they want in their clan areas for farming, construction etc, but you can not just own it with doing nothing, somali livestock have their own rights to have large zone for grazing. every somali goat has more land ownership than the european man, and every somali camel has its own little kingdom of several KMs. lool

but he does have a point if your not from the area, it depends how nice they are to let you build and develop on their soil

but everything is already owned loooooooool.

I love the somali system

[StormShadow]

You are wrong sxb most lands are taken by clans even divide amongst them selfs into sub areas. What is with you claiming nomads don't travel many miles? I know some family nomads who travel from area to area and basically stay there untill the other side turns green and go back when the green goes and came back again. Am talking about the size of maryland. Neutral zones are like the Berlin wall neither clans go there for grazing except if one side is bad and want to get closer to the other clan's green.

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Hilaac "Johnson doesn't know shit about nomads"

[AbdiJohnson]

Get out of my thread Julius. This isn't a clan competition. Im not into your petty clan battles. Ive seen how nomads live

This is about the government laying claim to these areas to establish their authority and legitimacy. The govt has no property. It shouldnt have to pay a clan that has come out of no where and that has never seen this strip of land before to build something

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Abdi "I won't stoop to your level" Johnson

[Caesar]

Get out of my thread Julius. This isn't a clan competition. Im not into your petty clan battles. Ive seen how nomads live

This is about the government laying claim to these areas to establish their authority and legitimacy. The govt has no property. It shouldnt have to pay a clan that has come out of no where and that has never seen this strip of land before to build something

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Abdi "I won't stoop to your level" Johnson

The facts make you weep Little johnson,
refute my claims but don't get emotional its not about clans but the facts.

You cannot claim others land that's it. Everything is already owned and nothing will change that.

It's for the best really. Its protection.

[Caesar]

Ive seen how nomads live

So when did you go to somalia again, please tell us, or be quiet

and I go where I please