Why centralism sucks

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Why centralism sucks

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Its hard to buy something that dosen't benefit you in the long run, and why the current politics by culusow and this gov't absolutely suck, and dosen't benefit anybody.

First of all hagites preach centralism but it harms them more then anyone else. lets just say somalia will reach peace in the next 5 years and people will slowly start to return from the west.

1. its already given 80% of the population will settle down on HAG-lands( Sh. Hoose, sh.dhexe, Hiiraan and Benadir), the rich once from the west will buy sommer houses in places like barawe, afgoye, and marka areas etc etc.. having all those people settle down on your country is not a good idea, large foreign population on your lands.

2. some of the returning people may experience lack of land and property.

3. those people may bring some jahiiliyaah with them qabiil or thinking this is our lands. like they did before ogaden thought hiiraan was theirs wholeheartedly that is just silly. :lol:

We should make a fair federalism and everybody shall be granted the rights to controll there lands which will give them the chance to not be controlled from Mogadishu but on the other hand they won't return to Mogadishu.

from southern Mudug, to Sh. Hoose should be made a closed down area and non shall enter except those granted permission, the returning families of the west shall go to there native regions and not to those lands i mentioned above.

those people who are from those areas shall be granted the permission to return and do whatever they want as there own country and homeland.

we should follow the british system just like England, wales, scottland and Ireland.

This Idea will give us a better future, Hiiraan nor Mogadishu is ready to take millions of returning somalis who are original not from there.

this is the direction we need to move towards and change our old policy.
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What's the whole point of citizenship if certain tribes are not allowed to live/work anywhere they wish to settle. I think you should rename your title " let's split somalia into many countries". Your idea is laughable.
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Also any Darood seen in this state should be shot on sight.
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lol, why not we all just go our separate ways? makes more sense then what you are proposing.
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Bloody somalis. No wonder Somalia is a right state with like mined faraxs like you lot in charge. What chance has Somalia got?...Zilch
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Amira143 wrote:Bloody somalis. No wonder Somalia is a right state with like mined faraxs like you lot in charge. What chance has Somalia got?...Zilch
Education will come, things will get better and people will stop their ways and open their eyes inshallah.
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quark wrote:lol, why not we all just go our separate ways? makes more sense then what you are proposing.
Yh U nailed it.. but in a good manner, where nobody would feel cheated or something.. keep it cool.
Amira143 wrote:Bloody somalis. No wonder Somalia is a right state with like mined faraxs like you lot in charge. What chance has Somalia got?...Zilch
I may come off as bad in the op bc this thread was going out to those who preach it, but on the other hand fair land sharing would be the correct answer between the tribes so nobody would feel cheated or not heard.. every tribe should be independent, and Law No.1? tribe forcing themselves on another tribe shall be viewed as terrorism.

But all in all.. its just an opinion!
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Shabeelada Hoose is Biyomaal land, aren't you criminals satisfied with Benaadir? This is why Somalia will never settle.
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Actually centralism is the only thing that can save somalis. Of course, illiterate buffoons will take centralism = HAG/Qoslaaye. The thing about centralism is that under a good leader it can work miracles and under a bad leader it can be disastrous. But Federalism is inefficient at the best of times and down-right stupid majority of the times. Federalism also feeds into qabyaalad and qabiil polititics, which explains why people from a certain clan are die-hard federalists even though they don't know shit about it.
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I actually agree that central rule is much more effective and appropriate for a country such as Somalia considering the size of our population.
But I will never suppourt centralism in Somalia because the center would be a city in which my kind are not welcome.
The center would be a Hawiye city which I have no claim to. I would rather balkanize Somalia than live under the rule of xamar.
just my honest opinion :Shrug:
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thegoodshepherd, The Xamar of the future will be more representative (cosmopolitan) of the people living Somalia. This will occur if there is any hope left for the collective entity once known as 'Somalia'.

Centralism :up:
Clanism (states) :down:

Anarchy :down:
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We are One tribe....but consist of different clans....also, everything will be controlled from the capital because that was the agreement post colonial, it was documenTed and signed. ..FACT
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