Djbouti and Somaliland - As Peacekeepers

[SimplySerene]

I am not that politically savvy. But I think people should discuss this more. Or at least for my curiosity

SimplySerene :

If I had my way I would kick the West out, and AMISOM out of Somalia. I am tired of these people getting so massively involve. They’re actually continuing the problems with the actions they are currently taking.
If I had my way I would get the UN & West to fund and negotiate troops from Djbouti and Somaliland. Create a deal with them. Both Djibouti and Somaliland have stability and armies. Plus their are Muslim and Somali. This is a great platform for peace. They would go into Somalia and be viewed as peacekeepers. They can help people negotiate and chill out.
I don’t want the west and Amisom to be in Somalia for the next 10- 50 years from now. I want Somalis to figure out their crap . The only way the Somali situation can be resolved is if Somalis actually take their destiny into their own hands. AMISOM already have small number of Djbouti troops, but I would prefer Djbouti and Somaliland to dominate the troops.

Are you for this or against this concept? It’s been mentioned other times on the forum
Please state your connection when replying to this thread. If you have a connection to Somalia, Somaliland or Djbouti? I want to know where everyone stands.

[Xildiiid]

I oppose it.

[Methylamine]

From a Pro-Somali point of view, this would probably ease the mistrust that Somalis have with each other, foster greater cooperation, and would weaken the support that al-Shabaab has from Somalis who believe that their country is being occupied by infidels.

From a Pro-Hargeisa point of view (aka my POV), this means more attacks on the capital by al-Shabab, causing potential destruction of my prized properties, and halting any positive development of the city. So I have to agree with the homie above me.

[GAMES]

You really aren't that bright, are you serene? Djibouti already has troops in Somalia.

Somaliland and Puntland are both part of Somalia, and are both peaceful. I don't think the Dastuur (the constitution) allows them to do so though.

I am from Galmudug, but was born in Mogtown.

[Xildiiid]

You really aren't that bright, are you serene? Djibouti already has troops in Somalia.

Somaliland and Puntland are both part of Somalia, and are both peaceful. I don't think the Dastuur (the constitution) allows them to do so though.

I am from Galmudug, but was born in Mogtown.

Somalia claims SL but we're not part of your country, never was and never will.

We have our own constitution that our people voted for.

[SimplySerene]

Methylamine - What’s the current AMISOM solution to al-Shabaab? Attacking, drones, bombing? That breeds more al-Shabaab members. It’s none stop.

An al-Shabaab attacks have already occurred in Somaliland. Couldn’t more occur in future if Alshabaab continues to grow?

What if Djboutis And Somaliland negotiated made their stance clear that they are only their for peace? It’s all about the approach .they could back off*shrug*

To me there are risks by not doing anything and doing something. I just want to know which way will pay off more.

Anyways Methylamine I understand that worry….

[DR-YALAXOOW]

it was last week when was fighting in northern Somalia( somaliland) in Sxaradheer town.. so how can part of somaliya which still has clanwarfare sent a so called peacekeepers to other part of Somaliya..

[SimplySerene]

it was last week when was fighting in northern Somalia( somaliland) in Sxaradheer town.. so how can part of somaliya which still has clanwarfare sent a so called peacekeepers to other part of Somaliya..

^ I don't know much about that. But conflicts in Somaliland can be resolved. but that's off topic

Plus many of the Somaliland troops are not in use from what I read on the internet. More people can also be recruited

[Methylamine]

Methylamine - What’s the current AMISOM solution to al-Shabaab? Attacking, drones, bombing? That breeds more al-Shabaab members. It’s none stop.

An al-Shabaab attacks have already occurred in Somaliland. Couldn’t more occur in future if Alshabaab continues to grow?

What if Djboutis And Somaliland negotiated made their stance clear that they are only their for peace? It’s all about the approach .they could back off*shrug*

To me there are risks by not doing anything and doing something. I just want to know which way will pay off more.

Anyways Methylamine I understand that worry….

Djibouti brought a few peacekeepers to the South and they've gotten bombed as a result of that. There would be even more bombings in SL due to its closer proximity.

Even if Djibouti/SL were there solely for peace, Al-Shabaab will still see them as infidels and will attack both countries as much as possible. You can't reason with whackjob terrorists.

It's a noble cause to help bring peace to Somalia and to eradicate Al-Shabaab, but at what cost? The peace that my people have been working on maintaining for the past 20 years? No thank you.

[SimplySerene]

thanks Methylamine your posts were interesting

[DR-YALAXOOW]

is it true that somaliland had a peace in last 20 years ??
lets just take some of news headlines for the past 4 years in Somaliland.

Feb 2011

Somaliland. Fighting erupts in Kalshale

http://somalilandpress.com/somaliland-f ... itia-20008



9 February 2012 .. SOMALIA: Fighting displaces thousands in Somaliland

) - More than 1,000 families (about 6,000 people) have been displaced from the town of Buuhoodle and nearby villages in northern Somalia after heavy fighting on 8 February between the self-declared republic of Somaliland's forces and clan militias loyal to the newly created Khatumo State, locals told IRIN.

T.

http://www.irinnews.org/report/94821/so ... somaliland


Augusti 2013

Somalia: Clan Fighting Over Pasture Kills Six in Somaliland

Buroa — At least six people were reportedly killed and eleven others were wounded in a fighting erupted between two fraternal clans in Somaliland's Oog village, Garowe Online reports.

The militiamen which belong to the two clans began to fight last Wednesday, after claims over pastureland ownership degenerated into the killing of a man near water borehole situating some 8 KMs north of Oog.

Following the killing, armed confrontations lasted for two days and the wounded persons were taken to nearby Buroa town of Togdheer region for medical treatmen

http://allafrica.com/stories/201308260006.html


and augusti 2014 we all remembar dagaalkiii ka dhacay Sxaradheer---

so how can somaliland who also have same problem as rest of somalia sent a peacekeepers when they can not even controll buuhoodle whichs part of Gobolka togdheer. its like saying Maamulka Ahlu sunnah ee gobolka Galgaduud sending peacekeepers to rest of Somalia.

[SimplySerene]

DR-YALAXOOW - Can you relax?

I see that you are on a mission.

Somaliland is not perfect. I don't feel like checking your sources,

Anyways , I think I got my answers from this thread

[Xildiiid]

Dr. Dameer you still haven't proved that Somaliland was part of Somalia. Why are you calling our country north Somalia when North Somalia is Bari and Nugaal?

There's armed rebellion going in Ethiopia, Sierra Leone and Djibouti but that didn't stop them from sending troops to Somalia. Did it?

It seems as if you put all your hopes on the Saaxdheer issue but it's solved. Cali Bile is in Ethiopia and the town is in the hands of SL.

One of the representatives of the town speaking in the beginning of the video and he's Dhulbahante just like many of the soldiers you see in the video. There's no such thing as khaatumo within SL.



Btw. the news headlines you posted are skirmishes that took place in grazing lands like the ones in Kalshaale and those kinds of skirmishes takes place all over Africa.

[DR-YALAXOOW]

DR-YALAXOOW - Can you relax?

I see that you are on a mission.

Somaliland is not perfect. I don't feel like checking your sources,

you dont need to check it my sources but its a fact known by all the world that somaliland and rest of somalia for the last 23 years clan warfare and al shabaab attacks happened both somaliland and south somalia which in international eyes belong same country called Somalia..


so your hypothetical questio about peacekeepers from a region whit in somaliya (somaliland) wich has anough shares of somali civil war for the last years a troops(militas) from there should be sent to rest of somalia ( buntiland muqdisho kismaayo and so on)) to keep a peace while they can not keep peace in saxaradheer and buuhoodle and many other places in so called somaliland... waxaas macquul ah maaha..




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[DR-YALAXOOW]

Dr. Dameer you still haven't proved that Somaliland was part of Somalia. Why are you calling our country north Somalia when North Somalia is Bari and Nugaal?

hargeysa and burco is a part of Somalia... take it forexample google it a city jabouti . you will find it jabouti is not part of Somalia but the part of a country called Djabouti .. but in same time when you google it hargeysa burco berbera iam 100% sure you will find out they are part of country called Somalia.. yes you have a dream to break away rest of somalia but nasiib xumo no one did recogniced your dream. not a singal country.. but in your not so well brain thinks hargeysa and burco and berbera aint part of somalia... laakiin nasiib xumo qof waalan waa adag tahay in wax xaqiiqi ah laga dhaadhiciyo waayo fantacy ay ku nooshahay ayey run moodaa..