Hypothetical Moral Dilemma from Fury (the Movie)

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Hypothetical Moral Dilemma from Fury (the Movie)

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Anyone watched the movie Fury, starred by Brad Pitt, Logan Lerman, Shia LaBeouf & Michael Peña etc? I've just finished watching it & the end scene got me thinking.

For those of you who didn't see it, it's 2+ hour long movie and (this part is a spoiler so if you didn't see it yet then stop here and don't read the rest) in the end all the actors die except Pvt. Norman (Logan Lerman), who survives when the badly wounded S/Sgt. Don (Brad Pitt) tells him to get out of the tank via the bottom emergency hatch & he lays there, pretending to be dead, while two hand grenades go off inside the tank, killing Sgt Don, who was the last alive person inside the tank. Even a young German SS trooper who sees the very scared Pvt. Norman with his torch underneath the tank decides not to report him and leaves him there. The young Private falls sleep down there and is awakened in the morning by the sound of nearby running horses, when he goes back into the tank through the emergency hatch and from there he is rescued by the U.S. Army medics and they tell him he's a HERO!

So, here's the moral dilemma and it's to do with the last sentence in the above paragraph. Let's say you're in the same situation and you've escaped death exactly the way Norman escaped it & you're seen as a hero. Knowing that you were scared to death & were saved by your wounded Sergent, by telling you to escape through an emergency hatch & hide down there, would you just keep quite & act like you're a real hero (and may be even cash in your notoriety and heroic status)? Or you would tell the truth that you did hide when death came knocking at the door & the real heroes are the ones who died?

What would you do? :notsure:
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I read your spoiler on the 3rd or 4rd line, you are an a-class kunt
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I told you, so please don't ruin the thread & discuss what you would in this situation.
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Truth has a way of coming back to bite in the ass when u least expect it and the amount of emotional toll this would take on me,not worth it.

I would tell what happened.
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^ That's the best policy, and as you said, it's also good for your conscience. BUT (there's always one, innit?), what if telling the truth will get you into a bigger problem then? Let's say that soldiers who didn't fight to the death or until taken as prisoners because they ran out of ammunition etc are seen as cowards and will be looked down on forever. Will you still tell the truth?
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The latter most definitely.Knowing myself I know it would lay heavily on my conscience.iF however there was another similar situation. where I was perceived a hero and their were no dead involved,I'd ride that wave and milk it for all it was worth
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Looked down upon vs good night sleep. :lol:
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Funny.. I was actully about to make a movie related thread, and lucky me cuz I was never going to watch that movie. I just hate American war propaganda films
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Thug, dead men tell no tales. I think one is better off to milk such found heroism if there were no survivors, otherwise shit will very likely hit the fan sooner or later. :lol:

Tuushi, looked down upon itself = bad night sleep so it's a loss loss situation, innit? lol

IbnTaymiyyah, about the same movie or another one? There's a whole thread dedicated to movies if you meant a movie discussion topic.
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I've seen the movie Twist. Bask in my well deserved glory and live is what I would do. Wouldn't lose a single night of sleep over the choice either.

To be honest, I'd have probably left as soon as the absurd notion of five men voluntarily holding their ground against a platoon of enemy soldiers was mentioned. Nobody does that shit in real life.
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^ And the funny thing is, when the crazy Sergent decided to stay and fight and others looked at him like he lost his mind, it was the Private that first hopped on the tank and said he would stay with him too, and he's the only one that survived. Don't you just love Hollywood fairy-tales? :lol:

PS: I think I would be in real dilemma in similar situation. Part of me thinks, "Fuck it. If I went through such hell and made it, why wouldn't I? If anyone deserves it then it's me." And part of me imagines all those guilty thoughts that would haunt me for life, knowing that hero & I aren't synonymous in that situation.
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That's movies for you. In a real life situation, Brad Pitt would have been the first to turn road runner after the tank stopped :lol:
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:mindblown: How is that a moral dilemma? Very mild cadaan worries. "I am a survivor, not a hero, I was saved by the captain", simple.

If you were worried about finances, and you lied, then distribute some of the wealth you milked to charities to "cleanse" yourself from sin, another cadaan thing :up:
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:whoa: Relax, ayeeyo. Did you see the movie in question horta? I used it as an example but if one is caught in similar situation (where all their colleagues are dead and there is no one to bear witness against their claims), most people will probably see it as a lifetime opportunity and will get as much as they can from their ill-gotten fame & make-believe bravery. And at the same time (at least with people who have the least amount of conscience and dignity) the knowledge that your whole post-heroic life & status are fraud & fake will always be at the back of your mind. And no, it's not an cadaan thing but a human thing (to cheat when opportunity rises, and somehow regret it later on, well unless one is a hardened criminal and doesn't have conscience at all).
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GeoSeven wrote:That's movies for you. In a real life situation, Brad Pitt would have been the first to turn road runner after the tank stopped :lol:
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