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I'd be interested to hear why non-Arab Muslims support the use of Arabic in Islam.
And We did not send any messenger except [speaking] in the language of his people to state clearly for them, and Allah sends astray [thereby] whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise.
http://quran.com/14/4

"Clarity" and comprehension are important, not Arabic.




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Arabian countries are one of the largest trade partners of Somalia. It's useful outside of religion.

Somali, Arabic, and English should be compulsory in Somalia.

Italian should be totally abandoned.
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because it was created by a saudi man to further arabic agenda
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Af-Maay and Italian should be banned from Somalia, two totally useless languages too many Somalis speak.
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Itrah wrote:Arabian countries are one of the largest trade partners of Somalia. It's useful outside of religion.

Somali, Arabic, and English should be compulsory in Somalia.

Italian should be totally abandoned.
I totally and completely agree with you. Somalis should have a knowledge on those 3 languages:

Somali, English, and Arabic. It would be great if most Somalis were fluent in all three.
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The only language that should be compulsay in schools should be somali. English and arabic should be offered but not required and somali cities everywhere should discourage the use of arabic/english/turkish or any other foreign language in boards and signs posted up. People also need to stop interjecting a foreign word every two seconds in conversations to sound sophisticated. More translations of foreign books like science should also be encouraged. The Somali language should also be standardized and must be protected at all cost. :idea:
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KnowThySelf23 wrote:because it was created by a saudi man to further arabic agenda
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Al Saud is a tribe that derives from the Tribe of Banu Tamim in eastern arabia, the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) came from Banu Hashim who descend from the Quraysh, a different clan, if you're going to address something atleast have basic information of what you're addressing.


@OP

You're speaking english, are you white? is this the language of your forefathers? If not, then why are you speaking it? Is it because you were born there? If so, then why? Is it because you're people have been psychologically defeated after a century of Eurocentric colonization, to the point where the dominant way of life in the world is one where you follow the cultures of a foreign people, 5,000+miles away from the land of the Somalis?

I find it reasonable to study arabic to engage the Qur'an and the classical texts, just as anybody else would in order to understand whatever they wish to understand, as much as you'd like to believe in your hypothetical universal language that is 'English', it is not universal, and is actually one of the poorest languages in terms of it's organizational structure and it's roots. Arabic is a superior language to English, I say that with no bias, and I can prove it if you request.


I am really getting concerned about the rising 'House Negroes' that we have in the Somali community, who somehow believe that they are liberated free-spirited humans when they abandon what they had in order to accept what originates from a foreign land, I ask.. why? Is it because their new religion they adopted, that is, to worship material merchandise, to idolize celebrities, and to fulfil their desires is somewhat more easy and pleasing to them than what they had before? If that is the case then I am happy for them, as Islam is a religion unlike any other religion, and the more born-muslims leave, the more new muslims come. :)

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ZubeirAwal, wallahi you deserve a Medal for that post you just made.

Gacantaa waan ku taagay saaxib. You're totally and completely correct here.
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arabic is a language not a race ^

anyone who speaks arabic (what the quran was written in) is automatically in arab
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Lancer wrote:The only language that should be compulsay in schools should be somali. English and arabic should be offered but not required and somali cities everywhere should discourage the use of somali/english/turkish or any other foreign language in boards and signs posted up. People also need to stop interjecting a foreign word every two seconds in conversations to sound sophisticated. More translations of foreign books like science should also be encouraged. The Somali language should also be standardized and must be protected at all cost. :idea:
I once lived with an upper class Somali Djiboutian family in Djibouti for a couple of weeks and was shocked that most of the time the children were speaking French with each other.

Apparently this is even very common among upper class Djiboutians. :| They look down on Somali as a 'useless language'. :-O
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KnowThySelf23 wrote:arabic is a language not a race ^

anyone who speaks arabic (what the quran was written in) is automatically in arab
You're right, the majority of Arabs today are not really arabs, but arabized arabs, the original arabs are a minority and are the indian/dark looking arabs, like yemenis and omanis, pale arabs in Syria, Palestine, Lebanon, etc.. are the descendants of Byzantine Romans. North African arabs are the descendents of Phonecians, etc....


@ OP, I found a poem from Imrul Qays (pre-islamic ancient poet) where he describes the tongue with the noun " carab" just like somalis use the word " carab" today when they speak of the tongue, I always suggested a theory that Somali is similar to ancient hebrew, ancient egyptian, afro-asiatic languages and arabic.
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Itrah wrote:
Lancer wrote:The only language that should be compulsay in schools should be somali. English and arabic should be offered but not required and somali cities everywhere should discourage the use of somali/english/turkish or any other foreign language in boards and signs posted up. People also need to stop interjecting a foreign word every two seconds in conversations to sound sophisticated. More translations of foreign books like science should also be encouraged. The Somali language should also be standardized and must be protected at all cost. :idea:
I once lived with an upper class Somali Djiboutian family in Djibouti for a couple of weeks and was shocked that most of the time the children were speaking French with each other.

Apparently this is even very common among upper class Djiboutians. :| They look down on Somali as a 'useless language'. :-O
I have cousins in Djibouti who I lived with as a kid and they spoke no somali :shock: wallahi I'm not lying they only spoke french so I never really got along with them because we couldn't understand each other. I never really thought anything of it until now and realized how sad that was. :|
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Also, when I was in Djibouti I once got lost in the city centre and had to ask about 10 different people for directions before I finally found a Somali speaker. Maybe because I couldn't tell the Afars from the Somali?

This was a couple of years ago, the situation may be even worse now.
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Silly thread ...
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I once went past Djibouti Airport, and I tried speaking to the Somali workers in Somali.
But the guy goes I only speak french or English.
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