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after sudan, nigeria the next african country to split up

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The sectarian and religion based conflicts r dominating the third world and muslim politics these days

Shia vs sunna, muslims vs chriastians

Nigeria is one the strong candidates to split up on religion lines but the AU is unlikely to allow this scenario of nigeria splitting up taking place bc the same fate will be waiting central afrique and in the long term will come to ethiopia!

But if the two groups r happy about as a solution for the country that's different story

Gaddafi has once called to divide nigeria on religion lines

Bako haram and the elections r the reasons that could split nigeria into muslims and christians

There r three major ethnicities in nigeria; hausa in the north who r mainly muslims, yuraba and ugba who r dominated by christians though 40% of europa r muslims

In 1990 abuja has replaced lagos as the national capital for population reasons

This map shows how the elections in nigeria r ethnically driven

Thanks god for being one muslim sect!
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Re: after sudan, nigeria the next african country to split up

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It's a matter of time Nigeria splits up. The tensions between the Muslim North and Christian South have been far too deep.

Even the tensions that exist between the Igbos and the Yoruba has also been extremely deep, and I hope that the Igbos form their own nation comprising a portion of Eastern Nigeria and Cameroon. They tried it once before in the 1960's, and they called this country "Biafra"....but they failed at it. Perhaps this time they should try it again.

The Igbos were always the smartest and most motivated people in Nigeria. If they manage to secure their own nation that's ethnically and culturally homogeneous, then I'm sure they'll reach middle-income status within a generation or so :up:
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The borders of Africa are all fucked up. This is a result of the colonial intervention, and these borders have fueled countless civil wars and uprisings. Even the 1977 Ethio-Somali War was a result of the f-king British drawing the borders between Somalia and Ethiopia in a certain way.

Nigeria was always too large of a country to function. Africa should aim to have mono-cultural or mono-ethnic states living in a territory, such as Botswana (a homogeneous country). Somalia is also culturally homogeneous, but unfortunately this is all-too-rare in the African continent.
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wow i never thought of Nigeria, but i don't think any African Country will be split into two nations, AU is becoming more powerful and are making most of their decisions this days, western countries are losing their influence in Africa. now a days some African countries are telling the Americans and the EU to leave their countries and they are welcoming the Chinese instead.

plus Nigeria is the largest nation in Africa in terms of population, and most Nigerians are the same like Somalis, all Nigeria have to do is get rid of Boko Haram and let Muslims lead the country for 5 years and the Christians for 5 years, also Nigeria needs new Police and new Army, the current Police and Army are brutal and they treat the Muslims badly. Nigeria police are the worst in Africa they shoot Muslims like there's no tommorow.

Sudan was different story, there was oil in the South that US and EU wanted, there was a holy war going on, the people were way way different, they never looked like the same they were massacring each other for years, plus Khartoum was never a friend to the West instead Omar Al Bashiir was selling his country to the Chinese, in Khartoum there are more Chinese schools than Western schools.

Europe hadeey bilaawdo ineey Africa kala gooyso ee wadan wadan u aqoonsadaan mucaarad yada Africa ka jiro, hade ha ogaadaan Europe dhex deeda ayaa kumanaan mucaarad ah ka dhex jiraan oo Africa ku dayan doono aqoonsina raadsan doono, waxaana ugu horeen doono oo kala go i doono France, UK iyo Spain.

i don't know about Arab countries Yemen in Arabia and Libya in Africa, i think this two countries are the next to split.
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TheMailMan wrote:It's a matter of time Nigeria splits up. The tensions between the Muslim North and Christian South have been far too deep.

Even the tensions that exist between the Igbos and the Yoruba has also been extremely deep, and I hope that the Igbos form their own nation comprising a portion of Eastern Nigeria and Cameroon. They tried it once before in the 1960's, and they called this country "Biafra"....but they failed at it. Perhaps this time they should try it again.

The Igbos were always the smartest and most motivated people in Nigeria. If they manage to secure their own nation that's ethnically and culturally homogeneous, then I'm sure they'll reach middle-income status within a generation or so :up:
yeah igbo are some separatists who belong to different christian sect but at the moment its about muslims and non muslims.

I think yuruba r the wealthiest as they own lagos.
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1moonlight wrote:wow i never thought of Nigeria, but i don't think any African Country will be split into two nations, AU is becoming more powerful and are making most of their decisions this days, western countries are losing their influence in Africa. now a days some African countries are telling the Americans and the EU to leave their countries and they are welcoming the Chinese instead.

plus Nigeria is the largest nation in Africa in terms of population, and most Nigerians are the same like Somalis, all Nigeria have to do is get rid of Boko Haram and let Muslims lead the country for 5 years and the Christians for 5 years, also Nigeria needs new Police and new Army, the current Police and Army are brutal and they treat the Muslims badly. Nigeria police are the worst in Africa they shoot Muslims like there's no tommorow.

Sudan was different story, there was oil in the South that US and EU wanted, there was a holy war going on, the people were way way different, they never looked like the same they were massacring each other for years, plus Khartoum was never a friend to the West instead Omar Al Bashiir was selling his country to the Chinese, in Khartoum there are more Chinese schools than Western schools.

Europe hadeey bilaawdo ineey Africa kala gooyso ee wadan wadan u aqoonsadaan mucaarad yada Africa ka jiro, hade ha ogaadaan Europe dhex deeda ayaa kumanaan mucaarad ah ka dhex jiraan oo Africa ku dayan doono aqoonsina raadsan doono, waxaana ugu horeen doono oo kala go i doono France, UK iyo Spain.

i don't know about Arab countries Yemen in Arabia and Libya in Africa, i think this two countries are the next to split.
since sudans split such scenarios r open to repeat themselves in the multi-ethnical and religion countries of africa. AU will not recognize one side separatist options but if the two groups want this option it can't be stopped. There's the likelihood of nigeria splitting over the elections, sharia law and bako haram.

I actually this strategy is good for the muslim somalia as we will have more muslim countries in the AU also its a threat to ethiopia

Give it 10 years!

AU itself will split into muslim bloc and christian bloc

Muslim nigeria will have borders with north africa through chad and niger and senegal

Hausa language is berber influenced and is considered afro-asiatic
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Re: after sudan, nigeria the next african country to split up

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Kind of a terrible idea unless right after independence they also split off Yobe and Borno states otherwise you're just asking for a war between the Hausa and Kanuri, which is practically already going on since most of Boko Haram's support is Kanuri and most of their victims are Hausa. The Hausa are a mighty nation that deserve a state of their own with a capital at Kano, and the Kanuri traditional capital at Maiduguri is a traditional entity that could stand on its own.

The problem with this whole idea is that northern Nigeria benefits from being part of Nigeria, there is a net transfer of money and development from south Nigeria and all that oil money that builds roads and infrastructure in the north. I'm not sure if the Hausa even want to leave Nigeria, it doesn't really make any sense.
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If we're carving up Nigeria there are a whole lot of countries that you could create. The Igbo have always hated the Yoruba and fought a bloody war to try and gain their independence, but noone will let them be independent because all the oil is in Igbo territory. The Edo of Benin and the Nupe are the other two big tribes with a coherent territory. The Fulani are spread out all over the place. There are tons of small tribes who have millions of people and could form small nations like the Tiv, Nok, Jukun etc.

I don't know, I mean Nigeria is already a loose federation, sure you could theoretically carve Nigeria into a hundred states, but would that be the best thing for the people involved?
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James Dahl wrote:If we're carving up Nigeria there are a whole lot of countries that you could create. The Igbo have always hated the Yoruba and fought a bloody war to try and gain their independence, but noone will let them be independent because all the oil is in Igbo territory. The Edo of Benin and the Nupe are the other two big tribes with a coherent territory. The Fulani are spread out all over the place. There are tons of small tribes who have millions of people and could form small nations like the Tiv, Nok, Jukun etc.

I don't know, I mean Nigeria is already a loose federation, sure you could theoretically carve Nigeria into a hundred states, but would that be the best thing for the people involved?
Thanks jamac. I forgot the oil factor.
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Re: after sudan, nigeria the next african country to split up

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His names is James , Sahalow lol Not jamac he is not Somali but Canadian of French Descent

As for the topic this have been an issue for Nigeria the secterian religious difference and the ethnic differences in Nigeria
It is true that the North and most of the water resources and Oil is in the North. There are allot of diffferences on issues and unity among the Yorubas, Igbos and Hausas The hausa fulani allliance have often left the IGBOS in big trouble The hausa and fulani had always their Islamic influances in the Political system this has always being different prior to the English colonization. The biggest problem is Nigeria is an artificer identity and even with its leaders the Likes of good Luck Jonathan have a big problem managing this country it might even end up in another DRC.
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I have no French ancestors, mostly Scottish

Nigeria for all its problems is the biggest economy in Africa, they have a space program and launch their own satellites, they have the best internet connectivity in Africa.
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So james u have clans to the Scottish Clans thats why u close to the Somalis
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Nigeria has better chance of splitting then somalia lol
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Nigeria is not split it still intact despite the Boko haram attacks and the instability in some areas. Somalia no longer functions as a state Jubbaland is closer to Kenya Puntland is already independent Abdiweli has visited 9 times Ethiopia the year 2014 one visit to xamar. Somalia is balkanized. The so called Mogadishu does not control anything. Wiill somalia split in the future maybe it depends if Jubbaland wants secession or Puntland but the status quo wil continue.
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Khalid Ali wrote:Nigeria is not split it still intact despite the Boko haram attacks and the instability in some areas. Somalia no longer functions as a state Jubbaland is closer to Kenya Puntland is already independent Abdiweli has visited 9 times Ethiopia the year 2014 one visit to xamar. Somalia is balkanized. The so called Mogadishu does not control anything. Wiill somalia split in the future maybe it depends if Jubbaland wants secession or Puntland but the status quo wil continue.
Lol I know his khawaja name!

Sxb its wrong to compare nigeria to somalia, firstly they have secular and sharia-based states, multi-ethnic and religion-based groups

PL is more unionist than mogadishu!

Dblock r found in every region so unlike of the north and mogadishu their clan and power will be splitted among these two regions if somalia gets divided

For this reason, they have adopted the D&M ideology of local autonomy and a federal state

Their unity is clan motivated

Mogadishu for geopolitical reasons wants one somalia even if this takes us to a confederacy and self-rule for some regions

As long as they r recognized the govt we have no problem with them

Power stays in mogadishu

Lastly the scenario of nigeria is splitting even if its unlikely is suggested by all of them not only one region specially the non muslims who will keep the oil.
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