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Have you ever heard of Tiiri & Madaale pre-Somalis?

or s Gabra Somali clan lost to Oromo?

The Gabra are Muslim Rendilles... They are not Somali or Oromo, but Rendille who became muslim.

Yeah it is indeed a myth We didnt conquer galla or oromos

The oromos were not inhabiting kenya or south somalia at the time.


Garre and raxanweyn somalis were living there way before oromos.

Itrah wrote:The Gabra are Muslim Rendilles... They are not Somali or Oromo, but Rendille who became muslim.

he meant garre not gabre!

So then the question is who were the Somalis actually fighting? From the North to NFD Somalis, we're claiming that they liberated the land from whom?

Garre are sub-group of the Rahawein who in turn are former sub-group of the great Borana of the Oromo.

They were slowly integrated into the Somali society as early as the 14th century.

There is no such thing as pre-Hawiye. If there is pre-Hawiye and "pre-Reewin" then where is pre-Somali?

Kids add the dots.

These Western back packers are no God. They won't there since creation.

Respect to Borana, the father of the Horn.

WaaliCas wrote:Garre are sub-group of the Rahawein who in turn are former sub-group of the great Borana of the Oromo.

They were slowly integrated into the Somali society as early as the 14th century.

There is no such thing as pre-Hawiye. If there is pre-Hawiye and "pre-Reewin" then where is pre-Somali?

Kids add the dots.

These Western back packers are no God. They won't there since creation.

Respect to Borana, the father of the Horn.

Quite the nonsense Raxanweyn are not former oromos. The oromos didnt come into northern kenya until the 16century of the oromo expansion.

Why are you arguing with scholars who did accurate research? Borana my ass!

there is much evidence against you aguing! dont have more important things to do? Going to mereja forum and licking xabashi ass! i

PrinceNugaalHawd wrote:So then the question is who were the Somalis actually fighting? From the North to NFD Somalis, we're claiming that they liberated the land from whom?

The northerners fought the southern somalis that is it!

I love when lil kids treat white back packers as God and "scholars".

Doesn't it suck when their sources don't even know that Garre are sub-group of this "Reewin"? Doesn't it suck when these scholars invent fake pre-tribal groups but have no overall pre-group?

Can your scholars also find pre-Isaaq and pre-Darood? Or were they still building their boats in Arabia?

Ciyaal like solid need time off from Google scans.

This one is busted yet again. These kids should read and add the dots instead of taking screen shots of white backpackers' medieval troll diaries.

Just because the diary is from medieval times, it doesn't make it a holy and accurate record.

From what I've heard and read currently chunks of the Garre are a subclan of the Hawiye/Raxanweyn and Dir.
Assimilated Oromos or not, they are Somalis.

1. Garre today are with DIGIL & MIRIFLE from their Seats in Jubbaland to Somali parliment they are consider to be DM, and I consider all of them them Oromo or a Mixture of Oromo and other people who lived in the South, the Oromo border the Jiddu a Digil & Mirifle clan and Considered other Gabra & Jiddu!, they must have mixed that's why the Jiddu have their own language & the Garre too!!





2. coming back to the Gabra this is what wiki says...


The Gabra (also written Gabbra or Gebra) live as camel-herding nomads, mainly in the Chalbi Desert of northern Kenya and the highlands of southern Ethiopia. They are closely associated with other Oromo, especially their non-nomadic neighbors, the Borana.



Language[edit]The Gabra speak the Borana dialect of Oromo, which belongs to the Cushitic branch of the Afro-Asiatic language family.

Culture[edit]The name "Gabra" may have roots in the Oromo word gabaro, meaning "vassal" and possibly indicating an association within the Borana federation. They appear to have been a conglomerate of peoples living north of the Tana river in Kenya, the area around Lake Turkana and the highlands of southern Ethiopia, but the details of Gabra ethnogenesis are subject to debate within academia.

The Gabra's ornamentation and physical culture is similar to many other Cushitic-speaking camel herders. The latter include the Rendille and Somali, all of whom the Gabra describe as warra dassee ("people of the mat"), in reference to the mat-covered, portable tents, which accompany their nomadic lifestyle. The Borana, on the other hand, are described by the Gabbra as warra buyyoo ("people of the grass"), in reference to the grass huts that characterize their sedentary lifestyle.

Gabra homes, called mandasse, are light, dome-shaped tents made of acacia roots, and covered with sisal grass mats, textiles, and camel hides. Each mandasse is divided into four quarters; a public quadrant each for male visitors, female visitors, and a private quadrant each for parents and children. A mandasse can be completely disassembled and converted into a camel-carried palanquin in which children and the elderly travel.

Gabra live in small villages, or ola made up of several mandasse. Ola move short distances as many as twelve times per year, in search of better grazing for the camels and other animals the Gabra rely on.

Society[edit]Gabra society is broadly divided into the lowland Gabra (Gabra Malbe) on the Kenyan side of the border, and the highland Gabra (Gabra Miigo) on the Ethiopian side of the border. The Gabra Malbe have been the subject of some missionary activity and anthropological research while little has been published on the Gabra Miigo. Gabra society is further divided into several semi-exogamous groups called the "five drums" (Oromo: dibbee shanaan). In Kenya, each of the "drums" generally resides in a particular grazing area which is historically tied to the region assigned them by the British colonial government in the early 1900s, though their previous territory appears to have been larger. The territory of the Ethiopian Gabra, is said to comprise a "sixth drum".

Religion[edit]The Gabra practice a monotheistic religion based on the traditional Oromo religion, centering on worship of the god Waaqa, syncretized with Islamic elements. The Gabra make pilgrimages to sacred sites, most of which are located in the mountainous terrain of what is today Borana territory.

WaaliCas wrote:I love when lil kids treat white back packers as God and "scholars".

Doesn't it suck when their sources don't even know that Garre are sub-group of this "Reewin"? Doesn't it suck when these scholars invent fake pre-tribal groups but have no overall pre-group?

Can your scholars also find pre-Isaaq and pre-Darood? Or were they still building their boats in Arabia?

Ciyaal like solid need time off from Google scans.

This one is busted yet again. These kids should read and add the dots instead of taking screen shots of white backpackers' medieval troll diaries.

Just because the diary is from medieval times, it doesn't make it a holy and accurate record.

You would probably hold Xabashi raw meat eater scholars as gods and gods words! if i brought you text written by ur beloved melenek you would probably drool! A forum dveler like you cannot question peoples legitimacy!
I wont bother with ur gibberish!

Somalis were not talking about their own clans invading or fighting each other, they were talking about Gaala or Gaalo Madoow or some people they were fighting, they also claimed they kicked them out of this land (North) and the South in Jubbaland as late as the mid and late 1800s they were fighting the same people, today the closest to us are the Boraan, Garre, Galla-Oroma, Rendille, Sambura, are they the same people?

PrinceNugaalHawd do you think Garre only inhabit Jubbaland?

You have a large group of them in DDSI. They also inhabit Shabeelaha Dhexe/NEP(NFD).

As I said depending on which Garre, they could identify with Hawiye/Raxanweyn and Dir

I was talking how in Jubbaland & Somalia they shared their seats with the Digil & Mirifle, I know they live in Kenya & Ethiopia too.