The existential threat posed by the Abu Hebel and Umu Heblaayo society to Somalinimo.'

[X.Playa]

I said it before and will say again this particular segment of the Somali society is more dangerous to the Somali existence then the clannish one and the liberals.

My reasons are from both first hand experience and from various anecdotes. For instance non religious Somalis will rarely allow their daughters to marry outsiders, the Abu Basal and Umu Toon society in the other hand will marry their daughters to a gorilla if he is converted to Islam.

No other Muslims have this dangerous religious tunnel vision. They don't care about somalinimo , culture and even the innate self preservation that even animals have they lack. Everything is about Islam and Islam is the solution and cure for everything.

This is from the so called Umma Islamic forum where the Somali Umu Toon type fish for ajnabi marriage using Islam as the Trojan horse for their end. A Palestinian fella looking to marry a Somali Umu Heblaayo type, look how most of the Somali women encourage such phenomenon, one even recounts a shocking litany of Somali women married to reverts, Arabs even Vietnamese all using Islam as the justifcation.

http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.p ... iage/page5

[TheFuturist]

Couldnt agree with you more, their objective is to destroy Somali culture, language, history and heritage, and to replace it Saudi/Arabism because if their innate self-hate. They think that to be a good muslim is to behave like the perverted Saudi Arabs, subhanallah!

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

I've noticed it has nothing to do with diinta. Arabs, timojilic, Chinese, Afghans etc are all muslims yet they don't let their daughters and kids marry willy-nilly whoever can memorise suurat al faatiha. I think the root of the issue is;

1) Self-hate/insecurities - These women most likely have low self-esteem due to either a bad upbringing or abuse. They don't have a positive male Somali role-model in their family and their mother most likely spent all their time badmouthing the father. So they end up have all kinds of issues - just look at cadaan strippers, the very archetype of daddy issues. A lot of these females suffer from the same issue African American women have and that's light-skin obsession. The blame is with the parent.

2) Apathy/lack of care from male relatives. I guarantee you if some madow or cadaan guy were to try and chat up an arab or afghan girl, they would be walking home on crutches. Somali guys have zero concern who their sister talk and associate with. I remember asking a friend of mine would he be OK hadey walaashii gursatey nin ajbnabi ah and he was perfectly fine with it. Note: I did ask another friend and he was totally against the idea so these people must just be a minority.

3) Naivety - Unfortunately, a lot of xaliimos simply aren't very bright or they are overly sentimental/trusting/naïve. The religion is the end-all, be-all. Never mind the fact that there are many charlatans, scoundrels and liars looking to use the religion as an avenue to take advantage these women. It's also why these women are obsessed with romantic, unrealistic filin-hindi nonsense of sweet nothings.

4) Lax marital vetting systems - Apparently, the only thing a guy has to do to marry a Somali females is quote scriptures and be muslim. No job, no qualifications, no money, no car etc. No standards whatsoever and this is mainly down to points 1 and 2.

[X.Playa]

What about the influence of their mullah parents, daily Somali parents tell their daughters any man is ok as long as he is a Muslim. Last Friday on my way to the pit I saw a Somali father and son dressed in white Arab pyjamas (toob), half an hour later I saw tow kids aged 14 and 9 both dressed in the Afghanistan shalwar, their parents are pushing these kids to act and dress anything but as a Somali and a secular. Even Arab diric now has become a sunnah.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

You are right. But I think if the Somali parents weren't pushing their daughters into the Xaliimo-marriage-factory that is the Somali Mosque, they wouldn't be at the mercy of unscrupulous "sheikhs" and mullahs. They should also stop using the malcaamads as a free day-care centre. If you don't want to raise your kids, don't fcking have them.

It is all chalked down to bad education and bad parenting.

[TheLoFather]

What about the influence of their mullah parents, daily Somali parents tell their daughters any man is ok as long as he is a Muslim. Last Friday on my way to the pit I saw a Somali father and son dressed in white Arab pyjamas, half an hour later I saw tow kids aged 14 and 9 both dressed in the Afghanistan shalwar

And what would your point be If they wore Scottish kilts or dressed like the Hamish community in the US?... Will that lessen this imagined 'existential threat'?

Never ending attacks on Islaam!

Wallaaahi these enemies efforts will be fruitless and in vain because for sure and more certain than the arrival of tomorrow ISLAAM WILL SUPERCEDE EVERY OTHER WAY OF LIFE!!!!!!

[X.Playa]

4 and 5 years old girls covered in xijaab with multiple dresses, pants, dress combined. The little girl can't even run and play with her peers.

[X.Playa]

What about the influence of their mullah parents, daily Somali parents tell their daughters any man is ok as long as he is a Muslim. Last Friday on my way to the pit I saw a Somali father and son dressed in white Arab pyjamas, half an hour later I saw tow kids aged 14 and 9 both dressed in the Afghanistan shalwar

And what would your point be If they wore Scottish kilts or dressed like the Hamish community in the US?... Will that lessen this imagined 'existential threat'?

What's wrong with good old pants and shirt! Or you can't enter jannah without acting and looking like an Arab?

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

What about the influence of their mullah parents, daily Somali parents tell their daughters any man is ok as long as he is a Muslim. Last Friday on my way to the pit I saw a Somali father and son dressed in white Arab pyjamas, half an hour later I saw tow kids aged 14 and 9 both dressed in the Afghanistan shalwar

And what would your point be If they wore Scottish kilts or dressed like the Hamish community in the US?... Will that lessen this imagined 'existential threat'?

Stop trying to create a false dichotomy. Somalis had clothes, traditions and culture before the arabs and westerners came. It is not one or the other, we have our own clothes.

[gegiroor]

I said before and will say Again all of the new atheists, budhists, evangelical Christianists, and so-called Waaqists all have an obsession with Islam. The so-called Somalinimo they hide behind is bogus - as if there is Soomaslinimo left if you aint a Muslim.

I don't know about others but they ain't fooling me.

[TheLoFather]

What about the influence of their mullah parents, daily Somali parents tell their daughters any man is ok as long as he is a Muslim. Last Friday on my way to the pit I saw a Somali father and son dressed in white Arab pyjamas, half an hour later I saw tow kids aged 14 and 9 both dressed in the Afghanistan shalwar

And what would your point be If they wore Scottish kilts or dressed like the Hamish community in the US?... Will that lessen this imagined 'existential threat'?

What's wrong with good old pants and shirt! Or you can't enter jannah without acting and looking like an Arab?

"good old Pant" wow.. And That Is a Somali attire? And pants would improve and protect somaliness?

X player could you answer my original question? Without answering it with a question

[TheLoFather]

I said before and will say Again all of the new atheists, budhists, evangelical Christianists, and so-called Waaqists all have an obsession with Islam. The so-called Somalinimo they hide behind is bogus - as if there is Soomaslinimo left if you aint a Muslim.

I don't know about others but they ain't fooling me.

Walaal your right and I doubt if they could even fool a 7 year old with half a brain

[Hyperactive]

I said before and will say Again all of the new atheists, budhists, evangelical Christianists, and so-called Waaqists all have an obsession with Islam. The so-called Somalinimo they hide behind is bogus - as if there is Soomaslinimo left if you aint a Muslim.

I don't know about others but they ain't fooling me.

Walaal your right and I doubt if they could even fool a 7 year old with half a brain

co-sign.

pants and shirts arent somali dress either. be example and wear laba go' and go to work. start with your self.

somali dress for men never been practical . just to hush geel and sleep all day under the tree. but to be active, not.

[X.Playa]

What about the influence of their mullah parents, daily Somali parents tell their daughters any man is ok as long as he is a Muslim. Last Friday on my way to the pit I saw a Somali father and son dressed in white Arab pyjamas, half an hour later I saw tow kids aged 14 and 9 both dressed in the Afghanistan shalwar

And what would your point be If they wore Scottish kilts or dressed like the Hamish community in the US?... Will that lessen this imagined 'existential threat'?

Never ending attacks on Islaam!

Wallaaahi these enemies efforts will be fruitless and in vain because for sure and more certain than the arrival of tomorrow ISLAAM WILL SUPERCEDE EVERY OTHER WAY OF LIFE!!!!!!

What Arab diric and red kofia and Pakistani shalwar has to do with religion?

[Hyperactive]

nothing to do with religion but who you are to tell people what to dress?