Alot of south somalis adopt tribe mentality to the detriment of somalia

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Alot of south somalis adopt tribe mentality to the detriment of somalia

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South somalis where always a community minded people and not tribal minded like wuqooyi. Now things have changed.

Tribalism thrives only as parasites on others, it needs to be managed by strict moral codes of marehan which prevents injustice, the order and kala dambeyn of Majeertan which prevent infighting, with good dhaqan tribalism can be reasonably assimilated into modern society. We see in wuqooyi they put emphasis on capitalism and although there is rampant tribalism they managed to keep peace because capitalism is individualistic in nature and free market disagrees with inhibitors such as qabiil territories.

In places like bay, bakool, benadir, shabeele and hiiran you might see the ugly side of tribalism more often. Tribal cleaning is probably the natural conclusion to a immature qabiil populist.

I can assure you that in reality what is keeping somalis in this situation is neo-qabilist groups that lack maturity, order or morality.

As we know the elites always practice tribalism. It is their sport, their families were usually beneficiaries of it. But they knew how to contain it.
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ninkan fan badana!

take your tribal mind to qashin section, i mean somali clan/politics section.
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Brother Adali are you now saying that the people of South Somalia should go to Somaliland and to be taught about the civility of Clanism and how to establish viable clan base administration?
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We had our fight among Isaaq ,we understand that there is no clear winner , and we've learned to live in peace with each other and our neighbours .
The daarood worst fear is a fight among them . Look at the majeerten , they had a skirmish between Caade Muuse and the other old man . To offset their mischevious ways they export a daarood supremacist agenda on the rest of the somali tribes , the same way the daarods used to turn the somalis against Ethiopia away from their daarood irregularities .
There is clannism the Isaaq way and there is clannism the zoomali way. We've declared Somaliland , 8 yrs later was created Puntland who now "exports" everywhere a policy of fragmentation . If we piss somewhere , 8 yrs later the daarood will piss at the same place while cursing us out for having done so :lol:
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Lol@Isaaq. Isaaq has had devastating civil wars and to this day we have deep tribal rifts - bigger than even southern clans. We get along for the most part because Ilaahay gave us a brain and taught us that if we kill eachother, we all lose.

Don't compare us to a group of people (Dooros/Hawiye) who use Ethiopian and Kenyan tanks against their own sub-clans.
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Tribal politics is a game . A game that unfortunately has its DEADLY consequences. Just like any other game , some play it better than others and somalis are only different in that they are very extroverted .
It all comes down to your intention , for good always at the end is supposed to triumph over evil. May Allah not veer us too far away from the Good .
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LoDoon wrote:Brother Adali are you now saying that the people of South Somalia should go to Somaliland and to be taught about the civility of Clanism and how to establish viable clan base administration?
Tribalism is an idea. So is siad barre style national socialism. So is this neo-Islamism.

Idea replacement is happening fast in South because it is so multicultural. While north remains fairly fixed on one mentality.

Looking at South tribalism is dangerous, imagine if 2-3 million Jareerta adopt it and we get similar crises as Sudan with south breaking away.
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SahanGalbeed wrote:Tribal politics is a game . A game that unfortunately has its DEADLY consequences. Just like any other game , some play it better than others and somalis are only different in that they are very extroverted .
It all comes down to your intention , for good always at the end is supposed to triumph over evil. May Allah not veer us too far away from the Good .
Yes but there is some games with no winners.

Let me give you example. One town has a number of jobs available, for these jobs they pick creme of the crop. There is a university. It charges 50k dollars. If you have degree u have advantage in job market. But if everyone has degree no one has advantage. It as if no one has degree. No one wins. Everyone loses 50k.
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LiquidHYDROGEN wrote:Lol@Isaaq. Isaaq has had devastating civil wars and to this day we have deep tribal rifts - bigger than even southern clans. We get along for the most part because Ilaahay gave us a brain and taught us that if we kill eachother, we all lose.

Don't compare us to a group of people (Dooros/Hawiye) who use Ethiopian and Kenyan tanks against their own sub-clans.
Put your inflated pride to the side. Look for another meaning in life. Other than tribal pride. This is just discussion forum mate.
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Adali, if federalism is not qabiil system to the core then you seem to be living in cuuko cloud land. The wost tribe killings happend in south. In moqidsho,badioa and jazeera, marka , barawa. Even this month gaalkacyo so qabiil exist eveeywhere lkn in koon land the worst qabilsm excist a kind of hutu tutsi trabilistic system with bloody outcome may god help you . Which is very far away from Somaliland ,ethiopia and Djbouti friendly mentality of live and let live.
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SSDF 1978

Idoor nurses movement 1981

hurgumo ring any bells?
idoor marduuf qaada helay waa majnuun falane


:russ:
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thegoodshepherd wrote:SSDF 1978

Idoor nurses movement 1981

hurgumo ring any bells?
idoor marduuf qaada helay waa majnuun falane


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Sorry to disappoint you but both rebels where formed by iidoor. SSDF founder was mustafe haji nur .
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Dhaboyaco wiikh.

SSDF started 1978 and ended 1979. :pac:

No wonder you are known as the naago of Somali. SNM was disbanded in the nineties after achieving their aims. SSDF was disbanded by afweyne's bitchslap. :lol:
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Lol disgusting Traitors bragging who bend over for habesho first. Boqol habaar baa qabtin.
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The difference is somaliland we have caqli we diss each other qabiil but we don't kill each, while on the other hand somalia has brain dead people, all they know is loot kill and die for power, it is complete two different worlds and its are idealogies that makes us come opposites.
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