The Orgin of the Tumaal. Journal Of The African Soceity Volume 4. 1904/1905.

[X.Playa]

"The Yibirs and Midgans of Somaliland , Their tradition and dialects"



l'o and behold , Aw Jaamac Cumar Ciise clan ( Hayaag) at last exposed. No wonder the Hayaag are minority because they disposed of their kins the Tumaals. Daarood ismaaciil should welcome their newest member, ( actually not new but long lost relative), the fact they openingly intermarry with the Daaroods are further proof of their kinship.

[Strategic]

in Reality though,yibirs and midgaans are fellow isaaqs suffering poverty and lack of $$$.

[Togdeer]

in Reality though,yibirs and midgaans are fellow isaaqs suffering poverty and lack of $$$.

Hawiye are Bantu. They are not real Somali

[Strategic]

in Reality though,yibirs and midgaans are fellow isaaqs suffering poverty and lack of $$$.

Hawiye are Bantu. They are not real Somali

This is not about attack on the beesha ictiraaf but a real conclusion,oromo bussinessmen claim sacad Muuse and no body touch while regular isaaqs who slide back to poverty and destitution are labelled as midgaans,yibir ,tumaal or what ever.is it part of the calture .

[X.Playa]

in Reality though,yibirs and midgaans are fellow isaaqs suffering poverty and lack of $$$.

Hawiye are Bantu. They are not real Somali

This is not about attack on the beesha ictiraaf but a real conclusion,oromo bussinessmen claim sacad Muuse and no body touch while regular isaaqs who slide back to poverty and destitution are labelled as midgaans,yibir ,tumaal or what ever.is it part of the calture .

There is no evidence for your theory, but the literature are abound considering your clan as a Sab.

[Strategic]

I though signor Smooth has exposed to the respectable readers of the Forum the despicable acts of your clan,Cannibalism still practiced as a remnant of old oromo tradition of sucking the blood of Cows as a sacrifice.This was jUST yesterday in Togdheer so called hashimite ictiraafland.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBggZxZg_GA

[X.Playa]

I though signor Smooth has exposed to the respectable readers of the Forum the despicable acts of your clan,Cannibalism still practiced as a remnant of old oromo tradition of sucking the blood of Cows as a sacrifice.This was jUST yesterday in Togdheer so called hashimite ictiraafland.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBggZxZg_GA

Those are your cousin refugees munching on young blood, farther south in South Africa ( the cradle of your Hawiye clan) where your cousin Bantu settle in abundance the myth of virgin blood is considered a cure for Aids, in Somalia your folks only consider it a delicacy .

[Strategic]

Nope he was arrested and was a local ictiraaflander,he is still practicing the traditions of his oromo ancestors,such events are common occurance in such unforgiving scorched land.

[X.Playa]

Nope he was arrested and was a local ictiraaflander,he is still practicing the traditions of his oromo ancestors,such events are common occurance in such unforgiving scorched land.

Have you ever gone to school?? when one makes a statement he qualifies it with prove , this isn't Bantustan section this is Somaliland its our custom to substantiate our assertions.. so where does the man's clan is exposed.?

[theyuusuf143]

That man was mentally ill habarjeclo man, he killed the kid. He is now arrested in dhagaxdheer, near dhoqoshay.

[AwRastaale]

Nope he was arrested and was a local ictiraaflander,he is still practicing the traditions of his oromo ancestors,such events are common occurance in such unforgiving scorched land.

Have you ever gone to school?? when one makes a statement he qualifies it with prove , this isn't Bantustan section this is Somaliland its our custom to substantiate our assertions.. so where does the man's clan is exposed.?

He is a refugee in Pakistan.

There is no good education there.

[Strategic]

Nope he was arrested and was a local ictiraaflander,he is still practicing the traditions of his oromo ancestors,such events are common occurance in such unforgiving scorched land.

Have you ever gone to school?? when one makes a statement he qualifies it with prove , this isn't Bantustan section this is Somaliland its our custom to substantiate our assertions.. so where does the man's clan is exposed.?

He is a refugee in Pakistan.

There is no good education there.

I am Doing PHD on scholarship Basis,come here to release some energy.

[barbarossa]

À vous entêter dans l’orgueil et le mépris, vous perdrez votre dignité,...
N’attendez pas de moi que je vous serve et me courbe jusqu’à vos pieds,
Dieu lui-même n’exige pas cela de moi.

Ayax Maxamed Dhowre, Yibir, Révolte.

[Adler]

Is it true that the Muuse Dheriyo clan traces its lineage back to Madoobe Dir? I have read somewhere that their ancestor was outcasted for taking up a trade.

This meant he had not enough camels to 'buy' a wife so he ended up marrying a daughter of a foreign merchant.

Can anyone expand on this? I find it odd that Somalis looked down on skilled people.

[X.Playa]

My theory is that Midgans ( which Muuse Dheriyo is a sub clan) were originally a Bushmen a hunterer gatherer society like those in Southern Africa. The Somalis came they interramired with them they lost their small stature ( a century ago most Western travelrs in Somali region pointed out the small stature of the Midgans , as opposed to the tall Somalis), but one trace of their feature is rememnat among the Somalis , that is their high-cheek bones most Somalis with nickname "shine" , or "shiino" have the Bushmen high-cheek bones traits and eyes.

The Yibir , are more mysterious and number the least , I have no evidence to believe the common myth that they were originally Jews, the Yibirs are medicine men by traditions , they perform magic rituals and such.

The Tumaal is a black smith, and probably of Somali origin . weather they use to be Daarood sub clan or not , they are of a Somali origin, both the Yibir and Midgans have their own language . Iam not sure of the Tumaal. But the fact these people have their own language eliminates any Somali origin of them.