Somalia, THE ELECTORAL MODEL FOR 2016(Maps, Clans, States & more details)

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Somalia, THE ELECTORAL MODEL FOR 2016(Maps, Clans, States & more details)

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COMMUNIQUE ON THE ELECTORAL MODEL FOR 2016

The National Leaders Forum (NLF) was reconvened in Mogaishu on the 24th of January 2016. The conference was hosted by the Federal Government of Somalia and was attended by President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud, Prime Minister Omar Abdirashid Sharmarke, the 2nd Deputy Speaker of Parliament Mahad Awad, President of Puntland Abdiweli Ali Gaas, President of Jubbaland Ahmed Mohamed Islam, President of South-West Sharif Hassan Sheikh Adan, President of Galmudug Abdikarim Hussein Guled, Ministers and respective delegates from the Federal Government and Federal Members States.

During the two days of the meetings, the Federal Government and Regional State Leaders continued to deliberate on the negotiations that were embarked on at the recent Kismayo Conference and made every effort to reach a compromise on the Electoral Process for 2016 and its implementation plan.

1. Considering the limited time, the security challenges and the expectations of the public for an outcome, the stakeholders underscored the need to finalize the deliberations on electoral model for 2016.

2. Having acknowledged the expectations of the Somali people that there shall be no extension to the Constitutional mandates of the current Federal Government institutions.

3. Noting that the National Consultative Forum presented the National Leaders Forum sufficient time to contest their positions to allow for more time and space to reach an agreement on the electoral model for 2016.

4. Conceding that the lengthy negotiations had not produced a consensus decision on the electoral model as specified in the Mogadishu Declaration of 16 December, the Federal Government of Somalia recognized the necessity to put forward a balanced position to guarantee an election for 2016.

5. The President of the Federal Republic of Somalia H.E. Hassan Sheikh Mohamud shared the position of the Federal Government of Somalia at the meeting of the participants and in the presence of International Partners on 24th January 2016.

6. The Federal Government of Somalia led by the Prime Minister H.E. Omar Abdirashid Sharmarke today met with the participants of the conference and expressed the need to consider the Federal Government position. The international partners welcomed the proposal while the regional leaders noted with interest and concern.

7. In accordance with the Mogadishu Declaration of 16 December that the electoral process in 2016 shall involve the formation of both the Lower House and the Upper House of Parliament, the Federal Government noted the need for the Parliament as a whole to have representation based on balance between constituency and clan.

On this context, the Federal Government shares the below positions as the best scenario for holding elections in 2016;

UPPER HOUSE OF PARLIAMENT:

• The Upper House of Parliament shall be established before the formation of the Lower House of Parliament.

• The Upper House of Parliament will consist of 54 members.

• 48 of the members of the Upper House of Parliament will be distributed equally among Somalia’s existing, emerging and prospective Federal member states (Somaliland, Puntland, Galmudug, Hiraan/Middle Shabelle, South-West, Jubbaland)

• The remaining 6 members of the Upper House of Parliament will be divided equally between Somaliland and Puntland, reflecting both their political status and maturity and the fact that they encompass the largest numbers of regions
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LOWER HOUSE OF PARLIAMENT:

• The number of parliamentary seats in the Lower House will be 275.

• Seats in the Lower House of Parliament will be allocated according to the 4.5 formula.

• A minimum quota of 30% of the seats in the Lower House of Parliament shall be reserved for women.

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Good job. This is good stuff. This election is going to be interesting.
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Woah. This is interesting :up:
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Does SL even want to participate?

Those 11 seats will be wasted. Better spread it around evenly 3 Darood 3 Hawiye 2 Dir 2 DM 1 0.5
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somaliler wrote:Does SL even want to participate?

Those 11 seats will be wasted. Better spread it around evenly 3 Darood 3 Hawiye 2 Dir 2 DM


Sometimes having something in place is better than nothing. Mogadishu is going to undermine Somaliland any ways, if we bring our own security personnel into their parliament we can defend our interests. I recommended that president Silanyo should hand pick all of them. They should not be Somalia's MPs, they must be Somaliland's security forces stationed right in the middle of Mogadishu. Having equal voting rights means real power.
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theyuusuf143 wrote:
somaliler wrote:Does SL even want to participate?

Those 11 seats will be wasted. Better spread it around evenly 3 Darood 3 Hawiye 2 Dir 2 DM


Sometimes having something in place is better than nothing. Mogadishu is going to undermine Somaliland any ways, if we bring our own security personnel into their parliament we can defend our interests. I recommended that president Silanyo should hand pick all of them. They should not be Somalia's MPs, they must be Somaliland's security forces stationed right in the middle of Mogadishu. Having equal voting rights means real power.
Do you guys even have interests in Somalia? I thought all the Isaaqs in Major towns like Kismayo and Xamar have escaped and not many remain
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somaliler wrote:
theyuusuf143 wrote:
somaliler wrote:Does SL even want to participate?

Those 11 seats will be wasted. Better spread it around evenly 3 Darood 3 Hawiye 2 Dir 2 DM


Sometimes having something in place is better than nothing. Mogadishu is going to undermine Somaliland any ways, if we bring our own security personnel into their parliament we can defend our interests. I recommended that president Silanyo should hand pick all of them. They should not be Somalia's MPs, they must be Somaliland's security forces stationed right in the middle of Mogadishu. Having equal voting rights means real power.
Do you guys even have interests in Somalia? I thought all the Isaaqs in Major towns like Kismayo and Xamar have escaped and not many remain

Why not? All kinds of evil comes from Mogadishu that's why there is countless Ethiopians and Kenya dying there every day for their own interests. We are not different, in fact Mogadishu is the biggest challenge to our own existence.
There is no large isaaq community in koknfur, but there is our brothers biimaal and surres .
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Gartey.

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Darod wil get 18/54= 33% 11 From Puntland 5. Jubbland, 2 Galmudug
Hawiye. 13/54=24%. 6 Hiiran&shabelle, 6 Galmudug 1 Jubbaland
Dir 12/54=22% 11 Somaliland, 1 Hiiraan% Shabellada
Digil & Mirif 7/54= 13%. 6 Koonfur Galbeed , 1 Jubbaland
Beesha 5aad 0.5 waxaa kusoo aadeysa 4/54=7% . 1 Jubbaland, 2 Koonfur Galbeed 1 Hiiraan&shabeellada
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Sidaan ayaa in loo qeybinayo ayaa nasoo gaartay 18 Daarood.
Puntland 11
Harti 8 (Majeerteen 4, 3 Dhulbahante, 1 Warsangeli)
Tanade 2( Leelkase Mudug 1, Leelkase Nugaal & Bari 1)
Yuusuf Daarood (Awrtable 1 )

2 Galmudug. Sade(Mareexaan 2)
5. jubbaland 2 Ogaaden 2 sade 1 Harti

Total.18
Harti 9
Sade 4
Ogaden 2
Tanade 2
Yusuf 1

Beelaha Harti iyo Sade ayaa ku doodaya oo leh: Ogaden minority ayuu ka yahay Somalia , kililka 5aad iyo NFD waa inay ku noqdaan oo ay xoreeyaan su Soomaaliweyn usoo noqoto.
Waxay ku doodayaan in 1 ka badan lasiiyo ma istaahilo, maxaa yeelay hal degmo ayuu dalka ka degaa waana degmada afmadow.
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haigoosan wrote:Sidaan ayaa loo qeybinayaa filayaa 18 Daarood.
Puntland 11
Harti 8 (Majeerteen 4, 3 Dhulbahante, 1 Warsangeli)
Tanade 2( Leelkase Mudug 1, Leelkase Nugaal & Bari 1)
Yuusuf Daarood (Awrtable 1 )

2 Galmudug. Sade(Mareexaan 2)
5. jubbaland 2 Ogaaden 2 sade 1 Harti

Total.18
Harti 9
Sade 4
Ogaden 2
Tanade 2
Yusuf 1
Miyaad waalatey? Ogaden 2 kulaha :?

How can Dhulbahante and Marexan have more than Ogaden?

Ogaden should have Atleast 4 or 5
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haa waa runtaa Ogaden 4 ka yar ma istaahilo, maxaa yeelay jubooyinka isagaa ubadan hartiga iyo daarodka kale kismaayo un bay degaan, mareexaanna gedo weeye degaankiisa 5ta daaroodku ka helay jubbaland 6 ayaa habooneed. 4 ogaden 2 sade taas ayaa aniga macquul ila ah.
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that 1 Harti of Jubbaland and 1 Hawiye of Jubaland will go to Ogaden. Hartis and Hawiye have enough in their own deegans.
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Why do we need lower and upper house? Whoever added lower house is genius... Bring on the never ending is qabqabsi.
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this is the logic.
Puntland 11/11= 100%
Jubblad 6/8 =75%
Galmudug 2/8= 25%
Total.19
Harti 8 = 42%
Sade 4 = 21%
Ogaden 4 = 21%
Tanade 2 = 11%
Yusuf 1 = 5%
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