The Isaaq failure to articulate and distinguish civil war from their statehood case

[X.Playa]

For years and years I have observed this ignorance of issues relating to war crimes and the civil war and the statehood of Somaliland emanating from the failed union of the 1960. Every time I see an isaaq who uses the genocide of the 1980s as our reason for declaring statehood I cringe, and say god help my ignorant people.

today and this few weeks I was reading the comments of Tuke case and in general the 1980s war crime, I see naïve isaaqs saying the reason for their "separations" a term I abhor and use instead stathood is because of crimes committed by the likes of Tuke loooool but Tuke is from Somaliland a dhulbahnate a supposedly " walaalaheen" Somaliland ah another term I abhor , waar dadkaygu caqli xumaa. why do isaaq assume these crimes were committed by a reigion?? these crimes were not committed by southern Somalis these crimes were committed , orchestrated , coined and designed by a Daarood government and a Daarood rluer. why we blame the poor south??

I was reading for the 10th time the Africa Watch 1989 report a government in a war with its people, with the excpetion of col. Koore Jaan a sheekhaal all the major crimals, be it Guulwadayaal, Hangash, Dhabar Jabinta, Booliska , military , NSS , and Dabar Gooynta Isaaqa para-military group were all led by Daaroods.

are the isaaq deliberately ignoring history for the short term of Somaliland case or are they programmed by their elite to equate war crimes with the South??

[original dervish]

[hangool79]

Which is why I have come to think we should evict dhulos and warsans from our territory which is lawycadda to ceelayo at the border to bosaso. We do not need these shaydamiin, they are nothing but an unruly and useless element in our land. Let them pack up and join their countless dooro midgos in majerteenia.

I'm more practical this way, lets share the spoils, lets divide sool and east sanaag.

[X.Playa]

sool and sanaag are part of Somaliland no fakken way we will let the land go.

[hangool79]

sool and sanaag are part of Somaliland no fakken way we will let the land go.

dhulka ma guuro eeh dadka guura, I say lets send them in buses to garowe, we keep the land

[guulside]

dhagayso sxb, this is not a platform for sland politicians if you care enough to raise this important issue go talk with the real policy makers in hargeisa. hadi kalee hadalkaagu waa khasaare.
if you know what you know what u r talkin about establish a think thank or centre for policy in sland and teach the mediocre politicians.
siyaasiyinta sland badankoodu waa qaar aqoontodu aan dhaafsiisnayn dugsi sare iyo wax la mida.

[X.Playa]

I don't think its that simple, teaching isaaq anything is like teaching a chicken not to lay eggs. impossible task

[xagal]

I couldn't agree more with you, our actual causes of withdrawal from the union are obliterated once and for all by that grave misconception, and unfortunately our women youth are falling for that , what is even more pathetic is, they blame the wrong people "REER XAMAR baa na laayay" they imply that by konfurians, and create unnecessary confrontation between isaaq and hawiye, when the reality is hawiye has had little to do with the disaster in 1988, infact a hawiye pilot landed his war plane in Djibouti in avoidance of involving the genocide , when the likes of tuke and morgan were delibaretely man-hunting unarmed isaaq civilians, therefore that mindset needs to be stopped. it is sidelining us from making any sort of political alliance with anyone.

the thing that ignites more animosity in my heart is how somaliland government wastes our taxpayers money on bribing faqash cunts, reer kan yaree harti waligeenba isaaq buu iskaga hoos noola magaaladan caasimada u ah laascaanod october 2014 baan mar ka shaqayn jiray, gabigeeduba waxay ku dhextaalaa laba buurod oon balaadhka isku jirin wax ka badan 2km mustaqbalna malaha lakin waxay u muuqataa in lacagteenii lagu baabiiyay that one shanty town, too much attention is given to them which is totally uncalled for.

[cyanide]

I don't take the spineless isaak tribe serious Morgan is playing pool in Garowe and they are not making any moves.

[X.Playa]

I don't take the spineless isaak tribe serious Morgan is playing pool in Garowe and they are not making any moves.

the ball is in your court the isaaq are in your land occupying you all due to Morgan and Afweyne leaving their Kacaan child the Dhulbahnate to the SNM. Morgan talks for his daarood from garoowe why not bring his stinking mustache to free his women from us??

[cyanide]

Morgan or the daarood as you put it are not the ones constantly whining about the past
when will Isaak tribe grow balls to do something

[X.Playa]

well bringing justice to people your cowards killed isn't whining its called justice, the one who whine are your faqash people even this Morgan of yours talking from far away about SNM occupying his Daarood. Why do daarood shit and run??? where this Morgan now, hiding in Garoowe among his small clan , what happened to the bubbling behind of the 1980s and the fancy designer shades looooool

[cyanide]

well bringing justice to people your cowards killed isn't whining its called justice, the one who whine are your faqash people even this Morgan of yours talking from far away about SNM occupying his Daarood. Why do daarood shit and run??? where this Morgan now, hiding in Garoowe among his small clan , what happened to the bubbling behind of the 1980s and the fancy designer shades looooool

What is his small clan? What will you do if Somaliland never achieves recognition will Isaak tribe finally do something

[X.Playa]

recognition or not what good will that do you, we will be in your land for ever.

[cyanide]

OP do you hate Hawiye or only Darood?

doesnt hating southern somalis and blaming them make recognition more explainable