SOMALI WOMEN IN MOGADISHU: COOKING, CLEANING AND MAKING BABIES !!!!!!!!!!!!

[Daanyeer]

Cooking, cleaning and making babies: Inside the ultra-conservative Christian cult Gloriavale where women's lives are strictly controlled and they have no contact with the outside world
Gloriavale: A Woman's Place examines life inside the isolated community
Community of about 500 live near Haupiri, on New Zealand's South Island
Women do daily household chores before they are elevated to role of wife
Expected to accept marriage proposals when men approach with flowers
Men do more physical chores like building and working in factories
Marriages are arranged by community leaders for members as young as 12
By ASHLEIGH DAVIS FOR DAILY MAIL AUSTRALIA
PUBLISHED: 05:45 GMT, 6 August 2016 | UPDATED: 11:49 GMT, 6 August 2016


A documentary has revealed what life is like for women inside a controversial Christian community in New Zealand, whose members are completely segregated from the outside world.
Gloriavale: A Woman's Place is about a woman's role in the community of about 500 who live near Haupiri, on the west coast of New Zealand's South Island.
The documentary, which aired on television in New Zealand in July, looks at Gloriavale's openly submissive female community members and their day-to-day roles, reported the NZ Herald.

It's the latest in a series of films made about isolated community by director and producer Amanda Evans and filmed by her husband Ivars Berzins.
It examines life inside the male-dominated society, where women are given kitchen and laundry duties while men do more physical work like building or working in factories.
Community members have barely any contact with the outside world, their access to media and the internet is restricted, they are only allowed to eat and wear certain things, marriages are arranged by community leaders and if people decide to leave they are ex-communicated.


Afterwards, they embrace before being carried to a consummation room where they are expected to lose their virginities
The documentary focuses on a few women in particular - 22-year-old Dove Love who is a kitchen manager and preparing for her upcoming marriage to 17-year-old builder Watchful Steadfast.
Dove Love is doing the washing for everybody in the community, when Watchful Steadfast arrives her her house with a bunch of flowers as a marriage proposal.


She admits she didn't know she was getting married until hours beforehand.
Once the couple is married and they exchange vows - where the woman promises to submit to the man and the man vows to be a leader, they embrace before being carried to a consummation room where they are expected to lose their virginities.


The documentary also looks at another woman, Angel Benjamin, who is pregnant with her sixth child and believes women were put on earth to bear children.
Director Amanda Evans told the NZ Herald she feels inner turmoil every time she visits the community.
'Sometimes I think, 'That's so cool. Isn't that lovely? Ten minutes later, I think, 'Oh, I could never live like that.'
She said she has wrestled with the turmoil, but believes if the tables were turned, Gloriavale's residents would feel the same conflict if they were to document her life.

'If they came and stayed at our house they'd feel some things were cool, and others [would make them think] we were terrible sinful heathens with no moral compass at all,' Ms Evans said.
'It's easy to make judgments. I will feel like I've done a good job if, whatever opinions you bring to the documentary when you see it, there will be moments when you feel conflicted.'
Members of the community are reportedly happy about having no contact with the outside world, and are said to be disgusted and disdained about how society lives.
The community's Leader Neville Cooper set up Springbank Christian Community in 1965 but after the group increased in size, he bought a new property in 1991 and renamed the community Gloriavale, reported Perth Now.
The controversy surrounding the community isn't new, after Mr Cooper, who changed his name to Hopeful Christian, was jailed on sexual abuse charges in 1995.




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[zulaika]

It examines life inside the male-dominated society, where women are given kitchen and laundry duties while men do more physical work like building or working in factories.

So what's the fuss? Given the choices they face, sounds like the men are doing the heavy lifting there. Cooking and cleaning is way easier than factory work, hard physical labor and building things..

[Daanyeer]

Zulaika,


Are u for ' male-dominant' culture !!!!!!!!!!!



Daanyeer beating his chest for the civilization !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Machiavelli2]

Zulaika,


Are u for ' male-dominant' culture !!!!!!!!!!!



Daanyeer beating his chest for the civilization !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How about the Daanyeer culture? Are they gender-role neutral?
@ the title of this thread. Bait thread at its finest.

[zulaika]

Zulaika,


Are u for ' male-dominant' culture !!!!!!!!!!!



Daanyeer beating his chest for the civilization !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey there Daanyeey, I was delighted to see you're still posting here

I think u know my stance on these types of discussions..from those days past.. I take a traditional middle ground view.

[gegiroor]

Zulaika,


Are u for ' male-dominant' culture !!!!!!!!!!!



Daanyeer beating his chest for the civilization !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How about the Daanyeer culture? Are they gender-role neutral?
@ the title of this thread. Bait thread at its finest.

I was wondering where does it say Somali women in Mogadishu?

Btw, is Daayeer Basra in another make-up?

[Daanyeer]

Zulaika,


Are u for ' male-dominant' culture !!!!!!!!!!!



Daanyeer beating his chest for the civilization !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey there Daanyeey, I was delighted to see you're still posting here

I think u know my stance on these types of discussions..from those days past.. I take a traditional middle ground view.

Nice to see u


I was just kidding from the surface of my CHEST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I know u since our childhood in S'net !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!