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What can Somalis learn from Kenya's democracy and political system?

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 2:05 pm
by abrahamic33
Kenya is a tribal society, with over 60 tribes that have different languages while Somalia is a society of clans with numerous dialects. Kenya has no single tribe that's majority, although the largest tribes are more influential (Kikuyu 22 %, Luhya 14 %, Luo 13
%, Kalenjin 12 %, Kamba 11 %, Kisii 6 %,, and Meru 6 %). In Somalia, no single clan family is absolute majority or large enough to dominate the country alone. Kenya has political parties, and people vote along ethnic lines. But they have a stable and working government institutions,i.e: police, courts, military, etc. Corruption and nepotism are normal in all developing countries, but Kenya has become a regional economic power, while Somalia (with more homogeneous groups and more natural resources) failed miserably. Kenya's evolution system is working better than Somalia's clan federalism.. What do you guys think we can learn from Kenya's tribal democracy and it's political system? Civil discussion please.

Re: What can Somalis learn from Kenya's democracy and political system?

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 2:15 pm
by PanSomaliNationalist
Kenya is slowly going downhill while Somalia is only getting better. I'd say nothing.

Re: What can Somalis learn from Kenya's democracy and political system?

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 2:29 pm
by barbarossa
^ Yes, every other country in the world is going down, except us, Skinnies, of course.

Re: What can Somalis learn from Kenya's democracy and political system?

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 2:37 pm
by PanSomaliNationalist
^ We can't go any lower at this point we can only get better.

Re: What can Somalis learn from Kenya's democracy and political system?

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:00 pm
by abrahamic33
[quote="PanSomaliNationalist"]Kenya is slowly going downhill while Somalia is only getting better. I'd say nothing.[/quote]


Kenya independence 1963, Somalia 1960... Kenya is a regional power, Somalia a failure

Re: What can Somalis learn from Kenya's democracy and political system?

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:20 pm
by PanSomaliNationalist
^ Why you on this website jareer

Re: What can Somalis learn from Kenya's democracy and political system?

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:35 pm
by GalliumerianSlayer
jeberti expulsion.

Re: What can Somalis learn from Kenya's democracy and political system?

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:56 pm
by Strategic
kikuye dominate kenya.

Re: What can Somalis learn from Kenya's democracy and political system?

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 8:32 pm
by abrahamic33
[quote="PanSomaliNationalist"]^ Why you on this website jareer[/quote]

Yaa jareer ah? Fikirkaaga dhiibo ama iska aamus

Re: What can Somalis learn from Kenya's democracy and political system?

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 8:36 pm
by abrahamic33
[quote="Strategic"]kikuye dominate kenya.[/quote]
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Kikuyu being only 22% of the population needs alliance with other tribes to win an election. Therefore, Kikuyu alone can't dominate... Sidoo kale, Soomaaliya hadday doorasho nin iyo cod ka dhacdo, qabiil keligii 50% heli kara ma jirayo.

Re: What can Somalis learn from Kenya's democracy and political system?

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:20 pm
by mahoka
Where u gonna go when they shut Down dadaab

Re: What can Somalis learn from Kenya's democracy and political system?

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:59 pm
by abrahamic33
[quote="abrahamic33"]Kenya is a tribal society, with over 60 tribes that have different languages while Somalia is a society of clans with numerous dialects. Kenya has no single tribe that's majority, although the largest tribes are more influential (Kikuyu 22 %, Luhya 14 %, Luo 13
%, Kalenjin 12 %, Kamba 11 %, Kisii 6 %,, and Meru 6 %). In Somalia, no single clan family is absolute majority or large enough to dominate the country alone. Kenya has political parties, and people vote along ethnic lines. But they have a stable and working government institutions,i.e: police, courts, military, etc. Corruption and nepotism are normal in all developing countries, but Kenya has become a regional economic power, while Somalia (with more homogeneous groups and more natural resources) failed miserably. Kenya's evolution system is working better than Somalia's clan federalism.. What do you guys think we can learn from Kenya's tribal democracy and it's political system? Civil discussion please.[/quote]

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Dooddan waxay ku saabsantahay maadaama aan tiigsanaynno codeyn dadweyne (one man vote), dimoqraadiyaddeenna mustaqbalka sidee uga duwanaan doontaa tan ka jirta Kenya oo qowmiyado badan leh ay ku kala baxaan sanduuqa codbixinta?

Re: What can Somalis learn from Kenya's democracy and political system?

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:36 am
by AwBakayle
Somalis despise Kenyan Bantus who are more civilized than them. I think if Kenyans with 80 ethnic groups can coexist peacefully and transfer power through democratic voting, we can do the same. The problem is we don't want to live in a modern system where the constitution is respected by al all.

Re: What can Somalis learn from Kenya's democracy and political system?

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:40 am
by AwBakayle
If Kenyans with around 80 ethnic groups can coexist peacefully and transfer power through democratic voting, why can't we do the same?

Re: What can Somalis learn from Kenya's democracy and political system?

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:33 pm
by Strategic
lets build a waal around mudug and call it a day.