What if Islam never reached the Somali peninsula

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What if Islam never reached the Somali peninsula

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I have 3 theories :lol:
1.) We would be like one of those jareer countries and we would be split between roman catholics in the south and protestants in the north.
2.) We would make our own type of christianity mixed with waaq iyo eebe like Ethiopian tewahedo.
3.) We would be the stubborn Somalis we are and stick to waaqism to this day like how Indians have always sticked to Sikhism.
What do yall think :lol: :dj:
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Re: What if Islam never reached the Somali peninsula

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PanSomaliNationalist wrote:I have 3 theories :lol:
1.) We would be like one of those jareer countries and we would be split between roman catholics in the south and protestants in the north.
2.) We would make our own type of christianity mixed with waaq iyo eebe like Ethiopian tewahedo.
3.) We would be the stubborn Somalis we are and stick to waaqism to this day like how Indians have always sticked to Sikhism.
What do yall think :lol: :dj:
Sikhism isnt that old. It dates from about the 15th century, around the same time that Portugal first colonised parts of India. Islam precedes it by almost a 1,000 years and Somalis were probably Waaqists before the advent of Islam.
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Most likley the 3rd.
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We would be part of Ethiopia like Oromos fighting for our freedom in 2016 or completely brain washed by europeans conquerers thus creating a nation that worships were the cadaan man walks like some of the bantu countries. Wallahi Islam has done so much good for us, our self esteem, our identity, cleaniness, xishood.
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Advo wrote:We would be part of Ethiopia like Oromos fighting for our freedom in 2016 or completely brain washed by europeans conquerers thus creating a nation that worships were the cadaan man walks like some of the bantu countries. Wallahi Islam has done so much good for us, our self esteem, our identity, cleaniness, xishood.
Well now instead Somalis worship dhegcas, like Sudan, so I don't see your point. Also from my experience today's Somalis have very little self esteem, identity or xishood.
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Re: What if Islam never reached the Somali peninsula

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We would be worshiping Habar'Waaqism.

Isaq intermediary to Waaq (God) Would be through Sheik-Isaaq but instead of the sheikh it would simply be Isaq axmad. And out of that would come out two sect.

1. Those who pray to waaq through isaq axmad.

2. The ortodox isaq who follow the authentic Sunnah of Habar Aji ...i.e...Dir.... ( those who pray to waaq according to the tradition and through mahe-Direed. The holy Saint and sage Ahmed Mohamad Xiniftire.....PBUH :lol: )
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Re: What if Islam never reached the Somali peninsula

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LiquidHYDROGEN wrote:
Advo wrote:We would be part of Ethiopia like Oromos fighting for our freedom in 2016 or completely brain washed by europeans conquerers thus creating a nation that worships were the cadaan man walks like some of the bantu countries. Wallahi Islam has done so much good for us, our self esteem, our identity, cleaniness, xishood.
Well now instead Somalis worship dhegcas, like Sudan, so I don't see your point. Also from my experience today's Somalis have very little self esteem, identity or xishood.

this is a later day experience kinda recent, our ancestors looked down on the white man and Bantus and arabs alike in the 1800s/early 1900s, this we run after arabs is new in my opinion, i know for example our sultan, sultan Ahmed Magan of jubbaland in the early 1900s banned Ogadens from marrying arabs like cadcads and arab minority, heck we even once banished an Ogaden king to wajir in the 1880s for marrying an arab woman and his children, my grandfather was part of a delegation in the 1980s to apologise to his descendants and bring them back to Ogadens, reer cabdille took 40 girls and the kings great great grand children brought us 40 girls and we married each other thus bringing them back to the fold,

in a nut shell, i dont know if the racism is heavily just among somalis but in general have never been in awe of another race, well not until 1991 :roll:
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Re: What if Islam never reached the Somali peninsula

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They would have been Christians like the Ethiopians. At least--they would have had less qibiir/arrogance. I think the arab culture inflated their esteem and made them unruly. I mean, they don't even care about their country--let alone people. :dj: :dj:
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Re: What if Islam never reached the Somali peninsula

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What if Cheng hO HAD brought Buddhism/CONFUCISM to the Somali peninsula.
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The rough and scarce environment would have bred the same tough culture that is highly tribal even if qabil would've been in a different form. We probably would have become Christians if we were still colonized. Religion is a means to an end if becoming a Christian would ensure support and arms from a rival qabil a lot of conversations would happen.
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SultanOrder wrote:The rough and scarce environment would have bred the same tough culture that is highly tribal even if qabil would've been in a different form. We probably would have become Christians if we were still colonized. Religion is a means to an end if becoming a Christian would ensure support and arms from a rival qabil a lot of conversations would happen.
Do you really hold us in such low esteem.
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Re: What if Islam never reached the Somali peninsula

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Futurist wrote:
SultanOrder wrote:The rough and scarce environment would have bred the same tough culture that is highly tribal even if qabil would've been in a different form. We probably would have become Christians if we were still colonized. Religion is a means to an end if becoming a Christian would ensure support and arms from a rival qabil a lot of conversations would happen.
Do you really hold us in such low esteem.
I don't hold us in any special regard.
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Re: What if Islam never reached the Somali peninsula

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just like the borana. islam has changed us totally

ab abyssinian history book claims that former Gala somalis have embraced islam as a form of resistance against abyssinia!

they used to wage wars against the meroe kingdom of sudan so they probably were at war with somalis as well as semitic colonizers.
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Re: What if Islam never reached the Somali peninsula

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If you think no Islam means no Al shabab you are mistaken. We probably would have something like LRA especially if we were christian. Somalis are stubborn when it comes to religion but It'd be kinda cool if we had our own type of crhistianity.
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Re: What if Islam never reached the Somali peninsula

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since when are we oromos why would we have worshiped an oromo god. i think we would have been orthodox Christians. since the abysinian church was the strongest in the region. any way i think islam was the best thing that happened to us. somalis oo Christian ah wa somali iska weak jacaylka jesus ka sheekeynaya. when islam a religion a warrior religion. its suits our character. islam is part of our identity
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