Gegiroor doesn't recognize the Ottoman Empire and sees it as illegitimate

[PureQ]

Absolutely shocking

The so-called Ottoman empire facilitated the occupation of the Holy Land when they allowed tens of thousands of Khazar European settlers to settle the Muslim Holy Land. This was happening in 18th and 19th centuries. Muslims are strongly urged to study the betrayal that was committed by that bogus "khilafa'.

[smooth]

This is part of the larger problems with Somali's, you never find them balanced but on either end of the extreme, you either get the Arab hater that often leads down the path of becoming an infidel, e.g. are Ben-Dover, X.player and Xildiid

Or you will get the likes of Gerigoor on the other end of the extreme, that embraces the neo-salafist approach and willing to take it to such extreme, he buys their cheap propaganda for why they allied with the British, betrayed the caliphate only to be stabbed in the back later and embrace a British/USA trusteeship ever since and serve as a tool that is used to destroy Islam from within, after other objectives were fulfilled.

The problem with both these groups is that they are conformist scum, if they were born in the jungles in Congo, they would be Voodo worshipping miscreant, if they were born near the filth of the Ganji rivers up in India, they would be worshipping the head of an Elephant as a God, you put them in Europe they would embrace atheism, evolution, ball earth heliocentric-ism and whatever other dogma they are indoctrinated with.

There is no objective rational thinking at all with such people, just a conformist servile brainless reactionary attitudes, having discussions or debates with them over anything is a waste of time, they are born to follow like sheep, in such cases you attack the herder not the blind dumb and deaf herd.

[original dervish]

I'd have more respect for the Salafists if they spent less time attacking fellow Muslims.

[Oxidant]

This is part of the larger problems with Somali's, you never find them balanced but on either end of the extreme, you either get the Arab hater that often leads down the path of becoming an infidel, e.g. are Ben-Dover, X.player and Xildiid

Or you will get the likes of Gerigoor on the other end of the extreme, that embraces the neo-salafist approach and willing to take it to such extreme, he buys their cheap propaganda for why they allied with the British, betrayed the caliphate only to be stabbed in the back later and embrace a British/USA trusteeship ever since and serve as a tool that is used to destroy Islam from within, after other objectives were fulfilled.

The problem with both these groups is that they are conformist scum, if they were born in the jungles in Congo, they would be Voodo worshipping miscreant, if they were born near the filth of the Ganji rivers up in India, they would be worshipping the head of an Elephant as a God, you put them in Europe they would embrace atheism, evolution, ball earth heliocentric-ism and whatever other dogma they are indoctrinated with.

There is no objective rational thinking at all with such people, just a conformist servile brainless reactionary attitudes, having discussions or debates with them over anything is a waste of time, they are born to follow like sheep, in such cases you attack the herder not the blind dumb and deaf herd.

That Ether

[PrinceNugaalHawd]

I support the Ottoman Empire because they built something and United a vast Empire, and faced many Enemies of Islam. But that doesn't make them automatically the rightful heirs, they took power by force. They later became weak and they did let the Jews settle in Palestine, I don't disagree with them, but that's the point the man was making.

[X.Playa]

The jews ain't going anywhere. The problem with the pro Palestine non-Arab mullahs be it Somalis or pakies they bought the Arab probaganda of the issue been a religious one. It's not about religion it's ethnic conflict over land.

I am advising the Somalis to look at the reality and never by the self-serving Arab tactics of making every conflict of them with none Arabs is about jihaad.

The Jews settled this land long ago and they have a right to that area.

[PrinceNugaalHawd]

The Jews do have a right to the land just like the Palestinians that's why they both need to accept a 2 state solution.

[X.Playa]

Wadaadada somalida ama soomaali oo dhan waxay carabtu ku shubteen colaad yahuud ayagoo xaga diinta adeegsanaya. Imika wadaadkan gegiroor intu ka fikiri lahaa dan soomaaliyed ayaa wuxu wakhtigisa ku lumaayaa the Arab vs Jewish struggle. Bal maxaa naga galay taayadii ayaa na cuslaysiisee.

The most embaressing occurrence to the Somalis was when Gaza collected donations for the Somali famine . Hada waa Gaza the largest open air prison in the world.

[Revolutionary]

The Issue of Palestine

In the late 1800s, a potent nationalist movement was forming among European Jews: Zionism. Zionist ideology called for a Jewish state to be established in their ancient homeland, Palestine. Although European Jews were dispersed throughout Europe, the unique financial and political power of numerous Jewish families was able to make Zionism a major force in the late 1800s.

Theodor Herzl, the founder of the Zionist movement, personally requested from Abdülhamid II special permission to settle in Palestine, in exchange for 150 million pounds of gold, which could have helped the Ottomans repay their enormous debts. Herzl’s aims were not to settle there and live under Ottoman authority, he clearly wanted to establish a Jewish state carved out of Muslim lands (as of course happened in 1948). Abdülhamid realized that his role as caliph required him to protect the sanctity and sovereignty of Muslim land, so he responded to Herzl with the following:

"™Even if you gave me as much gold as the entire world, let alone the 150 million English pounds in gold, I would not accept this at all. I have served the Islamic milla [nation] and the Ummah of Muhammad for more than thirty years, and never did I blacken the pages of the Muslims- my fathers and ancestors, the Ottoman sultans and caliphs. And so I will never accept what you ask of me."

He further prevented the purchase of tracts of land within Palestine by Zionist organizations, ensuring that their attempts at establishing a foothold there were futile. Ultimately, the Zionists were allowed to purchase land and settle in Palestine after the reign of Abdülhamid II, when the Young Turk movement was in charge of the Ottoman Empire.

http://lostislamichistory.com/the-last- ... lhamid-ii/

[Basra-]

Ottoman empire is just like any other hierarchy or monarchy empire. The visionary dies, and their son destroys what the father built-- purely on personality basis/difference/difficiency. The son of a visionary emperor tends to be less aggressive than their father, probably educated due to the fathers wealth and hopefully large library. They tend to be intellectual and peaceful, unlike their fathers who were hungry, ambitious, unintellectual, and a thirst for action. Basically the world is driven by personality. That's why we are guaranteed in the Quran and Bible that our daily bread is guaranteed by God. Our personality is predictable and works in mathematical probability. So any job u pick suits your personality

[X.Playa]

Ironically sheriif Xuseyn of Mecca the great great grandfather of the current stooge long of Jordan met with one of the greatest Zionist and supported the Jewish settlement.

[Basra-]

Ironically sheriif Xuseyn of Mecca the great great grandfather of the current stooge long of Jordan met with one of the greatest Zionist and supported the Jewish settlement.

X

Can u explain to me WHY the Jews are maligned, blamed, discriminated against through out history?? What Is it about them? I think what they did to Jesus kinda cemented their fate. I am watching a documentary about the black plague in 1348 Europe--and a jew is blamed for bringing this rat born disease. They get annihilated by Nazi, in the greatest vicious way in human history. And I have no doubt the nuclear will be tested on them --the next nuclear throwing. No doubt about it. Mark my words

[X.Playa]

Answer is simply if you know anything about pre war Germany and modern usa the Jews dominate the economy and media of the host nation and strangle it to death. The Germans were not evil they reacted to this total domination. Sadly the average American is too stupid

[Samsee]

everyone knows that the Ottoman govt was opposed to Israel

the problem is that palestinian land was being sold anyways by egyptian absentee landlords who wanted a quick dollar, because of this Jews were moving in since 1880

The local non-Palestinian Arabs didn't care, they saw Palestinians are low people and welcomed the rich Jews to bring commerce to the region, since the whole Middle East was failing due to Europeans finding other ways to India

sandnigger troubles are always caused by their own stupidity, Arabs iyo Somalis are the same; only people who don't know them feel sorry for them

[theyuusuf143]

The Jews do have a right to the land just like the Palestinians that's why they both need to accept a 2 state solution.