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why should Somalia keep Somaliland what is the benefits?

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I don't see why Somalia or southern want to keep Union with Somaliland when they Somaliland them self's don't want to be part of you.

So I want to know what is the benefits for southern somalia ? List them so at least we know and visa versa what will Somaliland gain if they become separate country? List benefits other then no more southern somalia in the picture.
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Access to Red Sea and border with Djibouti is the only thing I could think of really.

Maybe we should give them independence and watch as they kill them selves like South Sudan :shaq:
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Because we're one people. Why split our country when we're overwhelmingly similar?
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Estranged wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:24 pm Because we're one people. Why split our country when we're overwhelmingly similar?

Somaliland and Somalia merged after an illegal union in order to liberate colonized Somalis. That mission is over because Djibouti is independent and the Somali territories in Kenya and Ethiopia were signed away by the dictator Afweyne Barre.

If the objective of the union was to liberate and unite all Somalis then we can all agree that it failed and that it is time to move on.

Somaliland should regain her sovereignty and Somalia should focused on her internal issues.
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Estranged wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:24 pm Because we're one people. Why split our country when we're overwhelmingly similar?
One people is not an answer Somali people are already divided into many countries and still I don't see one point of benefits why keep together
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PanSomaliNationalist wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:46 pm Access to Red Sea and border with Djibouti is the only thing I could think of really.

Maybe we should give them independence and watch as they kill them selves like South Sudan :shaq:
Did you look at Southern Somalia's Map, isn't Bosaso in the redsea and even if we consider puntland a micro country what is the benefit the red sea when you have the Indian ocean
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I can't think of a single thing that could benefit SL from Somalia. Just look at Hargeisa today compared to during the union. Has it gone backwards or made progress? The answer is there. We are so much better today.

Equally SL has little to offer Konfuur.

That's why this BS makes no sense.

Habil and Qabil were from the same womb too so this BS one language, religion and culture makes no sense.

Sharing Common interests, benefits and cohesiveness are far better than sharing wombs but constantly at each other's throats, constant unrest in the house and failures.

Imagine having a drug addict brother compared to a decent neighbor.

As much as you love him you have to make the hard decision.

Tanzania, Kenya and Uganda all speak Swahili too.
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mahadalla wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:44 pm
PanSomaliNationalist wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:46 pm Access to Red Sea and border with Djibouti is the only thing I could think of really.

Maybe we should give them independence and watch as they kill them selves like South Sudan :shaq:
Did you look at Southern Somalia's Map, isn't Bosaso in the redsea and even if we consider puntland a micro country what is the benefit the red sea when you have the Indian ocean
Yes but we'd be technically crossing through Somaliland waters
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Estranged wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:24 pm Because we're one people. Why split our country when we're overwhelmingly similar?
We are already split...Djibouti for an example they want nothing to do with Somalia and Somalia has accepted that reality. And I never hear anyone cry for them. The question is what's the benefit of staying together?
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Doqontu waxa u fiican ma taqan wa idinka dantiina waxa ay dadku uga so horjedan in somaliya la kala gogooyo sas bad ku qurux badan tihiin , lakiin wa huba inaad ogan doontu runta mustaqbalka oo ka qowmamayn doontid
You would be asking yourself what was all about that now you are too stupid to see the damage and the consequence of your actions besides not all the population in former British Somaliland agree with you so at least let us have proper regrendum.
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koonfuriana are irrational people they cant think.clearly when eritrea was breaking away the amhara had one objection ethiopia cannot be land locked unde no circumstances this is from a strategic point of view thus understandible. when south sudan was seceding the north was opposed purely because of the oil field in the south. any way i have asked my self this question to many times what is their issue i came to the conclusion its just the fear of losing out and fear of the un known or pure xaasidnimo they know we want this to have our own country and them being just opposed to it thats all. . another issue i could have thought of is them really needing us because they know how to govern them selves one walanweyn once said he is against sl because he said he cant think of a somali republic with out somalilanders.. how ever we put it its strange we both have nothing to offer each other and are 2 different people. lets live and let live idinkuna wixina haysta anagana waxayaga thats all.
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Prlnce wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:10 am
Estranged wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:24 pm Because we're one people. Why split our country when we're overwhelmingly similar?
We are already split...Djibouti for an example they want nothing to do with Somalia and Somalia has accepted that reality. And I never hear anyone cry for them. The question is what's the benefit of staying together?



nothing really the unity between somalia and somaliland brought nothing but pain and misery the cancerous union destroyed both somalia and somaliland both hargeysa and mogadishu were destroyed by this cancerous unio imagine had we never united in 1960 were we would have been today. there is nothing that keeps somalia and somaliland we are 2 different on all aspects different aspirations different political culture different history tradition. the biggest mistake our grandfathers had was seeing haile selassie as a threat if we neve saw king haile selassie as a threat we would have had a full fledged state with out the war scars
but then again qadara ma shafaca what is written is written allah wanted to test the sadaat nation and he did and today we are stronger than eve
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Somaliland isnt the 1960 British Somaliland, today Somaliland is associated with one clan, the isaaq, the other thing, somaliland do NOT control the border as it did 1960, also Somaliland is not United like in 1960, you have the majority of harti who dont wanna break away and the Samaroon and hy who are lowkey unionists, so i dont see why u lots dont understand why everyone sees u as a joke when u say that u will break away :lol:

The reason other somalis dont wanna see you break away is simple, if u seccede in breaking away, other somalis will also want to break away and it will create coas and this can not and will not happen.
Other reasons are the strategic location of berbera which is located strategically on the oil route, what fool would want to give up on such city.

If you want ur indepence you have to earn it dawg . I suggest a unionist vs seccionist war should happen when the south have gotten their shit together, we the reer bari are ready :lol:
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Estranged wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:24 pm Because we're one people. Why split our country when we're overwhelmingly similar?
We have different political and social philosophies. We're incompatible.

South is innovative, chaotic and grab what you can. North is more structured, traditional and shared.

It wont work
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No man should be denied that which he seeks nor can that man deny another man's search for equality.

Somalia should peacefully annul the territorial claim of rightful isaaq lands and in return isaaq need to put an end to Somaliland's claim to non isaaq lands in the north west of Somalia. If their are isaaq citizens that would like to stay part of Somalia, they should voice their need in peace and should be encouraged welcomed and rewarded for nationalistic desires that's greater than their selfish tribalist sheep following need to be a South Sudan.

By your continuous claim to non isaaq lands paints a complete opposite picture of your desire to secede.
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