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Brief history of how the Somali government collapsed.

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I got many family who were part of the government and military in the late 80s when the government began to dramatic collapse. Here is a brief history.

Government institutions and the military were basically still strong by 1986 despite facing Ethiopian backed rebel groups.
-in mid 1986, Barre gets into a life threatening accident in Mogadishu.
-Much of the army is in the north to deal with the SNM rebels who are heavily outnumbered. As many as 30k government troops against 3k SNM rebels.
-The accident and barres poor health boldens the rebels and further demoralizes the army whose top leadership by now is mainly MOD colonels but the foot soldiers were mostly from all clans.
-Between 86 and 88, the war in the north escalates and there are mass desertions by soldiers who are horrified by the brutality of the conflict. SNM gains the upper hand and take control of portions of hargeysa and other towns.
- Government troops withdraw to city outskirts and a General bombardment of hargeysa is carried out by the regime.

-By now what was basically the Somali army disintegrates and soldiers begin fighting Each other. It becomes Dir,Hawiye & mj vs Red berets who are mainly marexan and Ogaden.
- Red berets withdraw to protect the south and the capital against USC rebels.
-In late 1989, to the surprise of many, Ogaden soldiers turn against Barre after conflict over land in kismayo between marexan and Ogaden
-Barre by now with the remaining loyal marexan soldiers controls only the capital and surrounding.
-in 1991, USC manage to enter Xamar and overthrow Siyad Barre.
-Barre, Morgan and his loyal troops regroup in gedo region.
-Barre is exiled and dies in Nigeria in 1996
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Barre is exiled and dies in a Nigeria toilet in 1996
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Barre is exiled and dies in Nigeria in 1996
Barre died in 1995 not in 1996.
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Let me get this right, if it wasn't for habar gidir, said barre would have committed a genocide up north.

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Good things happen when Hawiye and Isaaq collaborate. Case in point the over throw of Siad Barre

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Prlnce wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:01 pm Good things happen when Hawiye and Isaaq collaborate. Case in point the over throw of Siad Barre

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thehappyone wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:09 pm
Prlnce wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:01 pm Good things happen when Hawiye and Isaaq collaborate. Case in point the over throw of Siad Barre

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I've corrected you.

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Prlnce wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:01 pm Good things happen when Hawiye and Isaaq collaborate. Case in point the over throw of Siad Barre

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What good things?? Collapsing the Somali government isn't something to be proud of
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Jamal worry about your kin who have been butt raped by the Xabashi ever since the 19th century.

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GalliumerianSlayer wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:00 pm Jamal worry about your kin who have been butt raped by the Xabashi ever since the 19th century.

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jamal859 wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:57 am
Prlnce wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:01 pm Good things happen when Hawiye and Isaaq collaborate. Case in point the over throw of Siad Barre

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What good things?? Collapsing the Somali government isn't something to be proud of
Good things like putting an end to the tyrannical reign of unelected dictator. The Somali government collapsed in 1969 when a Non-Hawiye Non-Isaaq despot over threw the legitimate government of Somalia. Then forced us into a unwinnable Ogaden War that collapsed the Somalia's economy.
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Prlnce wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:34 pm
jamal859 wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:57 am
Prlnce wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:01 pm Good things happen when Hawiye and Isaaq collaborate. Case in point the over throw of Siad Barre

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What good things?? Collapsing the Somali government isn't something to be proud of
Good things like putting an end to the tyrannical reign of unelected dictator. The Somali government collapsed in 1969 when a Non-Hawiye Non-Isaaq despot over threw the legitimate government of Somalia. Then forced us into a unwinnable Ogaden War that collapsed the Somalia's economy.
Every Somali supported the kacanka coup btw and the 1977 war. The people who destroyed the govt were foreign backed rebels like SNM which was formed in London
Those bastards deliberately occupied cities knowing how the regime would react as it did with mj rebellion a few years back.
They capitalized on the civilian deaths for their own personal gain
BTW hargeysa was far better than gedo region in 1985. The regime, yes the top leadership was MOD but their was no open discrimination on clans before the rebellion
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jamal859 wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:18 pm
Prlnce wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:34 pm
jamal859 wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:57 am

What good things?? Collapsing the Somali government isn't something to be proud of
Good things like putting an end to the tyrannical reign of unelected dictator. The Somali government collapsed in 1969 when a Non-Hawiye Non-Isaaq despot over threw the legitimate government of Somalia. Then forced us into a unwinnable Ogaden War that collapsed the Somalia's economy.
Every Somali supported the kacanka coup btw and the 1977 war. The people who destroyed the govt were foreign backed rebels like SNM which was formed in London
Those bastards deliberately occupied cities knowing how the regime would react as it did with mj rebellion a few years back.
They capitalized on the civilian deaths for their own personal gain
BTW hargeysa was far better than gedo region in 1985. The regime, yes the top leadership was MOD but their was no open discrimination on clans before the rebellion
I don't know what you are going on about sxb. Don't have time for your denial and distortion of Somali history.
These are just basic facts.

1. Siad Barre (darood tyrant) unjustly and illegally acquired absolute power
2. Under Siad Barre's leadership he alienated and insulted our allies, took us to unwinnable war against Ethiopia that bankrupted our economy
3. There would be no (SNM) or (USC) without Siad Barre's Coup.

There is nothing to argue.
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