Mukhtar Roobow Gives Himself up to Government Forces.
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:18 am
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Re: Mukhtar Roobow Gives Himself up to Government Forces.
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:55 am
Like he had a choice.
Re: Mukhtar Roobow Gives Himself up to Government Forces.
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:14 am
Mukhtaar Rooboow become relevant when he was part of HSM. He defected and is no longer a factor, just like Sheikh Sharif the former leader of the movement. This isn't the end of HSM.
Re: Mukhtar Roobow Gives Himself up to Government Forces.
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:33 am
His surrender would have greatly helped pre 2015 or even 2016.
But we have no use for him, i hope the gov just expands to his territory & takes it. Also extract everything he knows that might be useful, which isnt much since he left shabaab in 2013.
Once this is done put him on trial, his victims deserve that. As well as the judicial have an opportunity to show the somali people that they can hold terrorists accountable, this is a man with a lot of blood on his hands.
But we have no use for him, i hope the gov just expands to his territory & takes it. Also extract everything he knows that might be useful, which isnt much since he left shabaab in 2013.
Once this is done put him on trial, his victims deserve that. As well as the judicial have an opportunity to show the somali people that they can hold terrorists accountable, this is a man with a lot of blood on his hands.
Re: Mukhtar Roobow Gives Himself up to Government Forces.
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:48 am
If he surrendered, then he made a deal with the gov. A trial or any sort of justice has to be ruled out. It's possible that he would get a position in the military, like Indhocadde.Polus wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:33 am His surrender would have greatly helped pre 2015 or even 2016.
But we have no use for him, i hope the gov just expands to his territory & takes it. Also extract everything he knows that might be useful, which isnt much since he left shabaab in 2013.
Once this is done put him on trial, his victims deserve that. As well as the judicial have an opportunity to show the somali people that they can hold terrorists accountable, this is a man with a lot of blood on his hands.
Re: Mukhtar Roobow Gives Himself up to Government Forces.
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:50 am
He didnt make a deal from the position of strength, note that he finally accepted to turn himself if when he got relentlessly attacked by shabaab resulting in 19 dead of his milia men so far.paperino wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:48 amIf he surrendered, then he made a deal with the gov. A trial or any sort of justice has to be ruled out. It's possible that he would get a position in the military, like Indhocadde.Polus wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:33 am His surrender would have greatly helped pre 2015 or even 2016.
But we have no use for him, i hope the gov just expands to his territory & takes it. Also extract everything he knows that might be useful, which isnt much since he left shabaab in 2013.
Once this is done put him on trial, his victims deserve that. As well as the judicial have an opportunity to show the somali people that they can hold terrorists accountable, this is a man with a lot of blood on his hands.
Power dynamics my friend.
Re: Mukhtar Roobow Gives Himself up to Government Forces.
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:54 am
Why was Indhocadde not put on trial?Polus wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:50 am He didnt make a deal from the position of strength, note that he finally accepted to turn himself if when he got relentlessly attacked by shabaab resulting in 19 dead of his milia men so far.
Power dynamics my friend.
Re: Mukhtar Roobow Gives Himself up to Government Forces.
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:56 am
Thats a completely other story, basically different time, circumstanses & power dynamics.paperino wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:54 amWhy was Indhocadde not put on trial?Polus wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:50 am He didnt make a deal from the position of strength, note that he finally accepted to turn himself if when he got relentlessly attacked by shabaab resulting in 19 dead of his milia men so far.
Power dynamics my friend.
Re: Mukhtar Roobow Gives Himself up to Government Forces.
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:57 am
Qabil dynamics.paperino wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:54 amWhy was Indhocadde not put on trial?Polus wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:50 am He didnt make a deal from the position of strength, note that he finally accepted to turn himself if when he got relentlessly attacked by shabaab resulting in 19 dead of his milia men so far.
Power dynamics my friend.
If Muktar Robow is put on trial then it will discourage others from turning themselves in.
Re: Mukhtar Roobow Gives Himself up to Government Forces.
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:00 am
True. But there are no other potential high level defectors left after abu mansuur, this strategy is no longer viable. Mansuur is about to land in Mogadishu any moment from Hudur & is accompanied by the defence minister.Raidboss wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:57 amQabil dynamics.paperino wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:54 amWhy was Indhocadde not put on trial?Polus wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:50 am He didnt make a deal from the position of strength, note that he finally accepted to turn himself if when he got relentlessly attacked by shabaab resulting in 19 dead of his milia men so far.
Power dynamics my friend.
If Muktar Robow is put on trial then it will discourage others from turning themselves in.
We will see what happens.
Re: Mukhtar Roobow Gives Himself up to Government Forces.
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:14 am
In any case, putting Rooboow on trial would send the wrong message that weak clans are expendable while powerful clans are untouchables.Polus wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:00 am True. But there are no other potential high level defectors left after abu mansuur, this strategy is no longer viable. Mansuur is about to land in Mogadishu any moment from Hudur & is accompanied by the defence minister.
We will see what happens.
Re: Mukhtar Roobow Gives Himself up to Government Forces.
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:30 am
the government in xamar will not win with this
if they trial him its good because he is a criminal in their eyes. if they dont trial he can still be a sleeping cell
the xamar govt will do nothing the same way daahir aweys was not touched the same way indho cade was forgiven. if they trial roobow it wil be seen as qabyalaad either way alshabaab will remain strong. defecting wont help
if they trial him its good because he is a criminal in their eyes. if they dont trial he can still be a sleeping cell
the xamar govt will do nothing the same way daahir aweys was not touched the same way indho cade was forgiven. if they trial roobow it wil be seen as qabyalaad either way alshabaab will remain strong. defecting wont help
Re: Mukhtar Roobow Gives Himself up to Government Forces.
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:45 am
Saaxib worry about what goes on in the triangle, next time send someone more capable than godaneKhalid Ali wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:30 am the government in xamar will not win with this
if they trial him its good because he is a criminal in their eyes. if they dont trial he can still be a sleeping cell
the xamar govt will do nothing the same way daahir aweys was not touched the same way indho cade was forgiven. if they trial roobow it wil be seen as qabyalaad either way alshabaab will remain strong. defecting wont help
Re: Mukhtar Roobow Gives Himself up to Government Forces.
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:12 am
Nicca will probably join Atom and the likes in Doha. Sweet retirement package awaiting him.
Re: Mukhtar Roobow Gives Himself up to Government Forces.
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:50 am
Most likely.TheblueNwhite wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:12 am Nicca will probably join Atom and the likes in Doha. Sweet retirement package awaiting him.