French president blames Africans for Libya slave trade

[AyubD]

Emmanuel Macron loses cool when answering questions of students at University of Ouagadougou in Burkina Faso




French President Emmanuel Macron has blamed African slave traders for auctioning other Africans in Libya.

Macron made the remarks at a panel of nearly 1,000 students at the University of Ouagadougou during his visit to Burkina Faso Tuesday.

When a student accused western countries of being slow and timid in their response to reports about the sale trade in Libya, the French president appeared to have lost his temper.

''Who are the traffickers? They are Africans ... Show me a Belgian, French or German smuggler or whatever else! You will not find one!'' he said.

''There are African slave traders who trade other Africans, that is the reality. There are Europeans who benefit from this misery in Europe... These are crimes in both cases and we are fighting both cases.''

He slammed the sale of migrants in Libya.

"The tragedies unfolding before our eyes in Libya are a crime against humanity," he said.

Macron arrived in Burkina Faso on Monday night, the first stop on a three-day African tour to Ivory Coast where he will take part in the AU-EU meeting and later also visit Ghana.

The French president later calmed down and joked about a malfunctioning air conditioner.

"Somewhere, you speak to me as if I was still a colonial power, but I do not want to deal with electricity in the universities in Burkina Faso. This is the work of the president," he said.

President Kabore then got up and left the hall while smiling.

"Stay Here!," the French president said.

''He went to repair the air conditioning!" he then said.

"If President Kabore wants to leave the Franc Zone, he can do it when he wants!... As soon as he has finished repairing the air conditioner..."

http://www.yenisafak.com/en/news/french ... de-2829516

[AyubD]

I agree with Macron on surface, but African countries have no clout over Libya politically or militarily. France or EU on the other hand can push Libya to address this issue instead of "pretend" concern. His reply is arrogant. Funny how Burkina Faso president walk out on him.

[DacasBiyo]

Of course he's gonna blame the Africans, he doesn't want them to reach France, he knows full well France with the help of EU/US destabilized Libya and thus created a vacuum terrorists operate in to smuggle weapons down south and people up north. A lot students were not happy of his visit they know France's time in Africa is coming to an end that's why he tried to appeal to them in an obama esque way but they see through his fake persona and rhetoric, they were more concerned about the CFA franc and France's hold of it than anything else because they want their countries to leave it. His whole trip is about asking African countries to contribute military personel to combat the terrorists they brought to the continent after the fall of Libya so that they don't reach Europe too, he has not major investments to offer to these countries that China isn't already doing, the Djiboutian president recently went to the Xi Jinping coronation to pay tribute and get more contracts something Africans will do more in the future even if France thinks Africa is its backward. France's era in Africa is over and those students know it very well.

[AyubD]

Of course he's gonna blame the Africans, he doesn't want them to reach France, he knows full well France with the help of EU/US destabilized Libya and thus created a vacuum terrorists operate in to smuggle weapons down south and people up north. A lot students were not happy of his visit they know France's time in Africa is coming to an end that's why he tried to appeal to them in an obama esque way but they see through his fake persona and rhetoric, they were more concerned about the CFA franc and France's hold of it than anything else because they want their countries to leave it. His whole trip is about asking African countries to contribute military personel to combat the terrorists they brought to the continent after the fall of Libya so that they don't reach Europe too, he has not major investments to offer to these countries that China isn't already doing, the Djiboutian president recently went to the Xi Jinping coronation to pay tribute and get more contracts something Africans will do more in the future even if France thinks Africa is its backward. France's era in Africa is over and those students know it very well.

Glory days of European colonial powers such as Great Britain, Spain, France, Germany, Italy, Belgium and Netherlands have ended with the conclusion of the Wold War II. After the war, they were economically and militarily propped by the U.S.A (Marshall Plan) In fact, NATO was and still is mainly funded by America. France always tries to distinguish itself as an independent body. Their weaknesses were displayed wide-open in the following two occasions.

First, in 2013 France, Spain and Italy denied access to their airspace to Bolivian Presidential plane carrying president Evo Morales who was flying back home from attending a conference in Russia. The suspicion was that Edward Snowden was on board. His plane was forced to land in Austria due to needing refueling. The plane was searched by European authorities. Obviously orders came from across the ocean. Diplomatic protocol went out of the window. European countries vividly demonstrated they are just lapdogs of America.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evo_Moral ... g_incident

Second, in 1997 authoritarian China took over the possession of democratic Hong Kong from UK after 99 years of lease. Britain gave up without a peep.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfer_ ... _Hong_Kong

The most recent examples are the refusal by Turkey to allow German parliamentarians to visit German troops in Incirlik Air Force base and the refusal to German Foreign Minister to visit Iraqi Kurdistan by Iraqi Prime Minister, Haider al-Abadi. Because of this, Germans had to scrap the whole visit to Iraq. Macron's recent feeble statement that he wanted to mediate the unfolding Middle Eastern conflict was ignored as well. Basically Middle East is telling Europe to phuck off.

We live in a dynamic world and countries are constantly keeping moving up and down in power ranking. Maybe Macron should know his place and stop his arrogance?

[DacasBiyo]

Of course he's gonna blame the Africans, he doesn't want them to reach France, he knows full well France with the help of EU/US destabilized Libya and thus created a vacuum terrorists operate in to smuggle weapons down south and people up north. A lot students were not happy of his visit they know France's time in Africa is coming to an end that's why he tried to appeal to them in an obama esque way but they see through his fake persona and rhetoric, they were more concerned about the CFA franc and France's hold of it than anything else because they want their countries to leave it. His whole trip is about asking African countries to contribute military personel to combat the terrorists they brought to the continent after the fall of Libya so that they don't reach Europe too, he has not major investments to offer to these countries that China isn't already doing, the Djiboutian president recently went to the Xi Jinping coronation to pay tribute and get more contracts something Africans will do more in the future even if France thinks Africa is its backward. France's era in Africa is over and those students know it very well.

Glory days of European colonial powers such as Great Britain, Spain, France, Germany, Italy, Belgium and Netherlands have ended with the conclusion of the Wold War II. After the war, they were economically and militarily propped by the U.S.A (Marshall Plan) In fact, NATO was and still is mainly funded by America. France always tries to distinguish itself as an independent body. Their weaknesses were displayed wide-open in the following two occasions.

First, in 2013 France, Spain and Italy denied access to their airspace to Bolivian Presidential plane carrying president Evo Morales who was flying back home from attending a conference in Russia. The suspicion was that Edward Snowden was on board. His plane was forced to land in Austria due to needing refueling. The plane was searched by European authorities. Obviously orders came from across the ocean. Diplomatic protocol went out of the window. European countries vividly demonstrated they are just lap dogs of America.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evo_Moral ... g_incident

Second, in 1997 authoritarian China took over the possession of democratic Hong Kong from UK after 99 years of lease. Britain gave up without a peep.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfer_ ... _Hong_Kong

The most recent examples are the refusal by Turkey to allow German parliamentarians to visit German troops in Incirlik Air Force base and the refusal to German Foreign Minister to visit Iraqi Kurdistan by Iraqi Prime Minister, Haider al-Abadi. Because of this, Germans had to scrap the whole visit to Iraq. Macron's recent feeble statement that he wanted to mediate the unfolding Middle Eastern conflict was ignored as well. Basically Middle East is telling Europe to phuck off.

We live in a dynamic world and countries are constantly keeping moving up and down in power ranking. Maybe Macron should know his place and stop his arrogance?

I don't know what you're talking about with this copy and paste but if your point was France should know its place, well they know their place among the superpowers since their ass got saved in WWII, as for Hong Kong it was a Chinese territory stolen, exploited then returned so I don't know why you're listing it here, but instead of regurgitating the Western propaganda if you looked into Hong Kong now you'll see that they are making more money then before because they gained first class access to the Chinese market something they probably would not have had if the Brits kept them. Shed this propaganda about authoritarianism you're getting from the Western media, they are as authoritarian as China, the freedom you think you have is just superficial and ephemeral they can take it away anytime they want for bogus reasons and they do it all the time, go ask the niggas getting life in prison for single joint possession.

[AyubD]

I don't know what you're talking about with this copy and paste but if your point was France should know its place, well they know their place among the superpowers since their ass got saved in WWII, as for Hong Kong it was a Chinese territory stolen, exploited then returned so I don't know why you're listing it here, but instead of regurgitating the Western propaganda if you looked into Hong Kong now you'll see that they are making more money then before because they gained first class access to the Chinese market something they probably would not have had if the Brits kept them.

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I mentioned Hong Kong because UK is big on democracy, abolition of capital punishment, gay rights, etc. And as a guarantor did not push for a referendum in democratic Hong Kong to give people a choice to join authoritarian China or not. They just hand it over to China. Basically UK has no real power. I can tell you Hong Kong people do not enjoy being told how to live by China. They come from different political and linguistical culture. Their languages are not even understandable to each other (Cantonese vs Mandarin).

Hong Kong was already well developed and was heavily investing in China before joining China forcefully. Your point is mute in regards to economy.

Shed this propaganda about authoritarianism you're getting from the Western media, they are as authoritarian as China, the freedom you think you have is just superficial and ephemeral they can take it away anytime they want for bogus reasons and they do it all the time, go ask the niggas getting life in prison for single joint possession.

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Last I checked people around the world are trying to move to West Europe, North America, Australia and New Zealand because of democratic nature, freedom and opportunities in these countries. I hope I don't need to remind you which countries accepted destitute Somalis as refugees. How many of them China took?

Many problems that the "niggas" encounter in the West are of their own making. There are marvelous opportunities in terms of education and jobs. But they mainly choose the other way. South Asians, Indians and many Somalis excel in these conditions.

[DacasBiyo]

I don't know what you're talking about with this copy and paste but if your point was France should know its place, well they know their place among the superpowers since their ass got saved in WWII, as for Hong Kong it was a Chinese territory stolen, exploited then returned so I don't know why you're listing it here, but instead of regurgitating the Western propaganda if you looked into Hong Kong now you'll see that they are making more money then before because they gained first class access to the Chinese market something they probably would not have had if the Brits kept them.

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I mentioned Hong Kong because UK is big on democracy, abolition of capital punishment, gay rights, etc. And as a guarantor did not push for a referendum in democratic Hong Kong to give people a choice to join authoritarian China or not. They just hand it over to China. Basically UK has no real power. I can tell you Hong Kong people do not enjoy being told how to live by China. They come from different political and linguistical culture. Their languages are not even understandable to each other (Cantonese vs Mandarin).

Hong Kong was already well developed and was heavily investing in China before joining China forcefully. Your point is mute in regards to economy.

Shed this propaganda about authoritarianism you're getting from the Western media, they are as authoritarian as China, the freedom you think you have is just superficial and ephemeral they can take it away anytime they want for bogus reasons and they do it all the time, go ask the niggas getting life in prison for single joint possession.

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Last I checked people around the world are trying to move to West Europe, North America, Australia and New Zealand because of democratic nature, freedom and opportunities in these countries. I hope I don't need to remind you which countries accepted destitute Somalis as refugees. How many of them China took?

Many problems that the "niggas" encounter in the West are of their own making. There are marvelous opportunities in terms of education and jobs. But they mainly choose the other way. South Asians, Indians and many Somalis excel in these conditions.

So in one hand you wanted the UK to not abide by the treaty they signed which is undemocratic on your part, on the other hand you are exalting and praising the democratic process of these countries. I don't know if you are confused or joking but in any case you can't have it both ways.

[FarhanYare]

If you are stupid enough to not see this coming with the way human traffickers been handling the ones that came before the current lot of refugees then you deserve to be sold like a wildlife. <--- This goes to the Somali. Hala slave gareeyo

[AyubD]

So in one hand you wanted the UK to not abide by the treaty they signed which is undemocratic on your part, on the other hand you are exalting and praising the democratic process of these countries. I don't know if you are confused or joking but in any case you can't have it both ways.

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Not that simple.There was plenty of room to maneuver for Britain. There were three separate treaties for three separate territories which today constitute Hong Kong. Only one was leased. Others were British colonies. Under Chinese pressure, UN passed resolution to remove Hong Kong from list of colonies covered by the declaration on the granting of independence to colonial territories and people. Another question who was the successor of those treaties on Chinese side? People's Republic of China (Mainland China) or Republic of China (Taiwan)? Especially in light of the fact that PRC refused to recognize those treaties.
Britain gave up Hong Kong because it just did not have real power to impose its own will:
"During talks with Thatcher, China planned to invade and seize Hong Kong if the negotiations set off unrest in the colony. Thatcher later said that Deng told her bluntly that China could easily take Hong Kong by force, stating that "I could walk in and take the whole lot this afternoon", to which she replied that "there is nothing I could do to stop you, but the eyes of the world would now know what China is like"

[abodu]

Why is the AU silent?

I understand France want to distance itself from the demon they created after Gaddafi. But why are African leaders Silent?

[PureQ]

He's not wrong, I'm glad he's been honest.

What kind of idiot would travel to a war torn country? Using a f-king war torn country as a route to the sea?!

And why the fuck do they keep migrating when there have been thousands of thousand drownings in the last 4 years? Are they deaf? blind? ignorant to risk their own life in the sea?

It's a good wake up call for Southern European nations to close the borders, militarize the meditereann sea again and send these adoons back which is enough to save their life.

[weydamal]

This is the same argument that some rednecks and some uncle tom negros spout when talking about the slave trade. They conveniently forget the people who created the slave trade, created the plantations for slave labour, created the slave ships for transport, created the demand for slaves, provided the financing for slave trade, provided the moral/legal/religious rationale for slave trade and heaped all the blame on a poor, misguided african who was used by the whites to perpetrate slavery at the lowest level of the chain.

Who colonised Africa, who misappropriated it's resources, who controls it's economy, who changes leaders and regimes at will, who creates the unfair trade practices that impoverish Africa, that leaves millions destitute , all trying to cross the sea for greener pastures, who bombed Libya to the stone age. To blame the poor, misguided trafficker who is at the lowest level of the chain for the ills caused by the white man, is really like blaming a rape victim for being raped.

Somebody needs to slap some sense into the idiotic French leader. All the stupid Africans did is to cheer him on. What a moron Macron is!

[Django]

This is the same argument that some rednecks and some uncle tom negros spout when talking about the slave trade. They conveniently forget the people who created the slave trade, created the plantations for slave labour, created the slave ships for transport, created the demand for slaves, provided the financing for slave trade, provided the moral/legal/religious rationale for slave trade and heaped all the blame on a poor, misguided african who was used by the whites to perpetrate slavery at the lowest level of the chain.

Who colonised Africa, who misappropriated it's resources, who controls it's economy, who changes leaders and regimes at will, who creates the unfair trade practices that impoverish Africa, that leaves millions destitute , all trying to cross the sea for greener pastures, who bombed Libya to the stone age. To blame the poor, misguided trafficker who is at the lowest level of the chain for the ills caused by the white man, is really like blaming a rape victim for being raped.

Somebody needs to slap some sense into the idiotic French leader. All the stupid Africans did is to cheer him on. What a moron Macron is!
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Well saild

[gobdoon]

There is some truth in that what about so called MAGAFE
But the Europians are happy whatever slows or stops the flow African leaders should hold down their heads with shame these young people must be running away from some things while short sighted leaders plunder the countries
Miss management and corruption.

[DacasBiyo]

So in one hand you wanted the UK to not abide by the treaty they signed which is undemocratic on your part, on the other hand you are exalting and praising the democratic process of these countries. I don't know if you are confused or joking but in any case you can't have it both ways.

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Not that simple.There was plenty of room to maneuver for Britain. There were three separate treaties for three separate territories which today constitute Hong Kong. Only one was leased. Others were British colonies. Under Chinese pressure, UN passed resolution to remove Hong Kong from list of colonies covered by the declaration on the granting of independence to colonial territories and people. Another question who was the successor of those treaties on Chinese side? People's Republic of China (Mainland China) or Republic of China (Taiwan)? Especially in light of the fact that PRC refused to recognize those treaties.
Britain gave up Hong Kong because it just did not have real power to impose its own will:
"During talks with Thatcher, China planned to invade and seize Hong Kong if the negotiations set off unrest in the colony. Thatcher later said that Deng told her bluntly that China could easily take Hong Kong by force, stating that "I could walk in and take the whole lot this afternoon", to which she replied that "there is nothing I could do to stop you, but the eyes of the world would now know what China is like"

Yes it is very simple. You either support democracy full or you don't. The little game you are playing here is the same game Western countries play, they call themselves "Democracy" but oppress their minorities physically and economically and then they pretend to spread "Democracy" but go around the world and overthrow democratically elected governments to install puppet dictators. Also stop trying to insinuate the Brits owned their colonies, no, they stole them by killing the indigenous people and then spread diseases and drugs to eradicate the leftovers. You can't rewrite history and pretend it was theirs, that country killed and pillaged its way around the world and nothing it has acquired outside its little European island belongs to it, if tomorrow China invades Australia and takes it back from them, it wouldn't bother me because it would be doing what they did.