Pound 4 pound are SNM the greatest freedom fighters ever?

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Pound 4 pound are SNM the greatest freedom fighters ever?

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I think they are.

When you take into account.

The lack of resources they had ( ak47 with limited ammo)

The terrain (geeljire fighting tanks in semi arid desert)

Fighting a government with huge military resources , who turned the whole population against one tribe.

Foreign countries like libya and south africa helping in the genocide.

It was a miracle what they did.
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They were terrorists heavily backed by the Ethiopians and lost every battle they ever fought against the Somali army.
Dhulbahante militias eliminate them totally from Sool/Togdheer. :)
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Nah the Eritrean's were. BBC called them the best guerrilla army in modern times.
Not to mention that they had over 100,000 soldiers and the backing of millions of their population.
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Waachis wrote: Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:18 pm Nah the Eritrean's were. BBC called them the best guerrilla army in modern times.
Not to mention that they had over 100,000 soldiers and the backing of millions of their population.

Don't take anything from BBC. They're not reliable.

Eritreans had more resources in terms of numbers and weapons. Plus SNM was fighting a cowardly enemy yes but one who had one of the biggest militaries on the continent.

Only freedom fighters who come close in recent times is the Vietnamese.

Everything was stacked against the SNM. It was truly a miracle they won. Amazing warriors. With very few mistakes in them. Apart from the one big strategic mistake of trying to hold hargeisa when they entered it the first time.
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original dervish wrote: Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:16 pm They were terrorists heavily backed by the Ethiopians and lost every battle they ever fought against the Somali army.
Dhulbahante militias eliminate them totally from Sool/Togdheer. :)
Don't make me laugh. You faqash scum are pathetic. Liars and cowards.

Everything was on your side. How come you didn't achieve your goal of wiping us off the map?

We still here and getting stronger everyday.
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Eritreans were great fighters difference between shabiyaa and snm. Snm was very democratic shabiyaa had difficult times Because of jebha shabiyaa had not won any war. Mengistu had so many troops every where they broke mengistu only in 1988 affabbat battle and the incursions into massawa keep in mind Egypt and Saudi Arabia gave millions in aid to eritreans.

SNM was established In 1979 affaeaad in side Ethiopia led by muhammed ali. SNM was very democratic and a paid and had no support from Arab countries Because they all support from siyad barrre we kidnapped planes ships we bought our weapons from mengistu nothing is free no such thing as free lunch. Mengistu made a deal with siyad barre in 1988 he gave up on reclaiming somalI kilil in order for snm to be removed from ethiopia. We attacked him and jihad began 31 may 1988. With in a year siyad barre lost control of much of Somaliland. And the rest is history
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Lol they didnt defeat the government tho. It was usc and other various factions that removed the government. How do we know?

Snm formed 1981.
Usc, spm and ssdf start to fight in 89.
Government falls 1991.

Yah usc defeated the barre regime. That is something u only hear from isaqs.
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So you tell me usc who came in 1989 with in 2 years defeated the3rd strongest army wauw. USC fought caydid visited snm in 1989 in baligubadle we elected abdurahman tuur. 2 third of the somali army was based in Somaliland. Why don't you ask your uncle Adam gabyown ooh shit he is dead. Ssdf gave up In 1984. Siyad barre gave them incentive and they threw in the towel cabdilahi beer doofaar was in jail in Addis and was being molested in prison he came out of prison when the war was done. spm was nothing but a sub faction of the usc. Horta daroodku waa funny siyad barre fighters were mostly darood marexaan dhulbahante and ogaden. USC leader cali wardhigley was snm deputy chairperson. Under mujahid koosaar. Alkbadam darood piglets think they smart they give credit to hawiye. Just to xaasid libinta isaaq. But when they see hawiye they say isaaq baa dagaalamay. But I will tell you isaaq abd hawiye both rejected doofaarism jabartismn and 2018 hawiye rules Mogadishu and isaaq rules the entire British Somaliland. And daroods are still enslaved by Kenya and Ethiopia
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Eplf was and is legendary.
It crushed black Africa's largest army, Ethiopia.
It United 9 ethnic groups and multiple religious groups under one command. Snm just had to unite one clan who are all of one religion, which is a lot easier.
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Waachis wrote: Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:25 pm Eplf was and is legendary.
It crushed black Africa's largest army, Ethiopia.
It United 9 ethnic groups and multiple religious groups under one command. Snm just had to unite one clan who are all of one religion, which is a lot easier.
these isaaqs are rednecks of somalia, just like rednecks think american civil war was about states right, isaaq re-imagen the civil war and their role

every one conveniently forgets, the elephant in the room, the soviet union.
the soviets convinced ethiopians not to invade somalia but to use somali rebel groups hence the the tree initial rebel group with their "S," snm and sdf.
soviet union new every officer in the somali army and their clan grievances.

infect majority the officers that joined rebel groups were trained either by cubans or russians and every officer that was retrained by united states stayed loyal.

snm had no western backers so by using logic there had to be another super power directly or indirectly(soviet union through Libya)

Waachis, a marexaan general abdiaziz ali barre was ruling all 3 major isaaq cities while siyaad barre was on the border of kenya and the government lost mogadishu.


there is a reason the rebel goups could not form a goverment and that is when they turn war in clan warfare, we defeated aidid in 3 battles, gedo, kismayo and gaalkacyo, the later city was liberated by abdiaziz ali barre.
in gedo, aidid deputy a legendary military guy was killed in gedo and his death body was on the new york times.

after the fall of the soviet union non of these rebel groups could sustain their military strategy which was to capture the country and share the bounty among themselves.

dont't you find it ironic and a testament to the majesty of the marehan, that after all these years, the marexaan has produced in span of the last 8 years, 3 prime ministers and the first legitimate and popular somali president after siad barre...am just saying.

the isaaq has never produced a somali leader, infact when was appointed by the late Abdirashid Ali Sharmarke, the coupe happened and he was locked up in 1969 :lol:

2 most powerful rebel groups that overthrew the goverment were, USC(hawiye) which took over the capital and SPM(ogadeen) took over largest land, majority of southern somalia, all the way to the outskirt of mogadishu afgoi.

yet, we the legendary marehan defeated usc and spm( spm divided and majority of ogadeen were with the marexaan and were instrumental in the attempted reconquest of mogadishu)

all am saying is, if a somali tribe is powerful, they have universal aims to rule over all somalis, if not, they are ineffective regional power and not national.

siad barre and farmaajo are from the same clan and and share a sub clan and share a sub sub clan
somali state existed 30 years out of which a marehan ruled 21 years and as soon the federal government god international recognition, guess who became a president?.... a marehan named farmajo :lol: what does that tell you about winners of somali politics of the last 60 years.

we the marehan are beloved by somalis not for what we do for ourself but what we do for the somali race, the somali masses trust us afterall, their glory days was under our stewardship..undisputed(sorry for my chauvinism but their is no other way reading somali clan political history)
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metamorphosis wrote: Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:29 pm Lol they didnt defeat the government tho. It was usc and other various factions that removed the government. How do we know?

Snm formed 1981.
Usc, spm and ssdf start to fight in 89.
Government falls 1991.

Yah usc defeated the barre regime. That is something u only hear from isaqs.
These Idoors are beyond delusion, they really believe that they were the ones who overthrew the Barre Government while at the same time cry 24H Live on how they were genocides by the same Regime they claim they overthrew LOL, this mofos are going weird beyond believe.
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Waachis wrote: Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:25 pm Eplf was and is legendary.
It crushed black Africa's largest army, Ethiopia.
It United 9 ethnic groups and multiple religious groups under one command. Snm just had to unite one clan who are all of one religion, which is a lot easier.

True Eritrea had an ethnic issue but Eritrea had same history Italian colonialism which gave them a sense of togetherness. Tigrinya and tigre are around 90 percenr of Eritrea Eritrea had to unite only those 2 ethnic groups one was Muslim one was Christian. Eritrean fought over 30 years But only the last 10 years results were coming
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Typhoons inaa goita why do you spew so much lies marehaan through our the entire 1990s they were subservient to Hutus especially cayr. Marehan are part I galmudug. In Mogadishu they came under the snallesst hawiye clan mururursade . In kis mayo they are non existent Kenyans alongside their ogaden slaves rule kismayo. Marexaan is nothing in Somalia.. failmaajo has no power whith out hawiye support he is gone. He is a guest in mogadishu. There are no hawiye any more on somalinet to tell the truth. But once majeerteen come back as president or prime minister hawiye will be back on somalinet.. ilma goita have nothing to live for. They still think siyad barre is alive nostagia of the kacaan. Russian guns and praying to Jesus weird folks the childeren of goita xiiraabo theodorus
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