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Will somalia ever be peaceful?

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its been almost 30 years.... meanwhile neighboring countries are developing in an ever increasing rate.
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KingMX wrote: Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:30 am its been almost 30 years.... meanwhile neighboring countries are developing in an ever increasing rate.
wrong part of SomaliNet but I’ll answer anyway

Of course your neighbours like Djibouti and my country Somaliland are doing better due to peace and a functioning strong government. Zoomalia must fight OG MJ hiraab raxanweyn federalism pirates terrorists and war profiteers as well as hostile foreign powers in order to recover unite and prosper
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BigBreak wrote: Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:44 am
KingMX wrote: Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:30 am its been almost 30 years.... meanwhile neighboring countries are developing in an ever increasing rate.
wrong part of SomaliNet but I’ll answer anyway

Of course your neighbours like Djibouti and my country Somaliland are doing better due to peace and a functioning strong government. Zoomalia must fight OG MJ hiraab raxanweyn federalism pirates terrorists and war profiteers as well as hostile foreign powers in order to recover unite and prosper
hate to argue with you but somaliland is not a country recognized anywhere also the toxic tribalism you spew is a massive part of the country problem. Didn't read the rest
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the clans I didn’t mention needs to unite under marehan and murursade because they all suffer from burburis/balkanisation

SL is a country because it declared itself a country and is both independently self governing and has a proper government

If it quacks like a duck......
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BigBreak wrote: Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:52 am the clans I didn’t mention needs to unite under marehan and murursade because they all suffer from burburis/balkanisation

SL is a country because it declared itself a country and is both independently self governing and has a proper government

If it quacks like a duck......
fair enough but anything outside the legal framework holds no value.I could declare my city a country but it truly wouldn't be a country even if all the people in the city agreed with me. I hope you understand that
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that’s your opinion but I follow the Montevideo convention which determines if a country exists

could you also accept the clans I mention in Italian Somalia are a threat to your country
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BigBreak wrote: Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:11 pm that’s your opinion but I follow the Montevideo convention which determines if a country exists

could you also accept the clans I mention in Italian Somalia are a threat to your country
It's not opinion it's fact, if it was an opinion you most likely would have been recognized by now. Anyway the threat towards Somalis is the clan lineage which we hold so dear its literally working against us and its part of our culture and the reason we aren't peaceful people right now. In essence we are working against each other a country of clan warfare and division. Somaliland just got lucky with its location and people (largely same clan) but all somalis suffer from this toxic tribalism. We need to learn to be peace loving people and learn acceptence of others. That means other clans...
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OK we will agree to disagree on the recognition question

Would you agree that federalism or any scheme to make the Somalian national government in Xamar weak should be rejected. There is no doubt some but not all clans in Somalia like MJ want a weak or nonexistent central government which however is dangerous and misguided IMO
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BigBreak wrote: Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:30 pm OK we will agree to disagree on the recognition question

Would you agree that federalism or any scheme to make the Somalian national government in Xamar weak should be rejected. There is no doubt some but not all clans in Somalia like MJ want a weak or nonexistent central government which however is dangerous and misguided IMO
I'll admit the federal system is there because of our tribal divisions and it's flawed because it's a system that reminds us constantly of these division... but at the same time it holds us together for a while. If you ask me how to stop this clannish behaviour of Somalis thought I truly don't know but we're so I deep I wonder if we will ever recover.
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Somalia is far from a utopia, but really where on the planet is a utopia, in Somalia you will not face racism, tribalism is nonsense no one will ask you clan in Mogadishu, its all about Somalinimo, business and horumar, I guarantee you the situation is getting increasingly better and Mogadishu is having a massive influx of diaspora which will only escalate progress. The government is slowly making progress.

Somalia is sitting on the bussiest shipping lane, the powers that be don't want us in powerful position to challenge our stake on that shipping lane.
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dalalos101 wrote: Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:07 pm Somalia is far from a utopia, but really where on the planet is a utopia, in Somalia you will not face racism, tribalism is nonsense no one will ask you clan in Mogadishu, its all about Somalinimo, business and horumar, I guarantee you the situation is getting increasingly better and Mogadishu is having a massive influx of diaspora which will only escalate progress. The government is slowly making progress.

Somalia is sitting on the bussiest shipping lane, the powers that be don't want us in powerful position to challenge our stake on that shipping lane.
Mogadishu alone is not Somalia - you talk like Xamar seceded
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dalalos101 wrote: Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:07 pm Somalia is far from a utopia, but really where on the planet is a utopia, in Somalia you will not face racism, tribalism is nonsense no one will ask you clan in Mogadishu, its all about Somalinimo, business and horumar, I guarantee you the situation is getting increasingly better and Mogadishu is having a massive influx of diaspora which will only escalate progress. The government is slowly making progress.

Somalia is sitting on the bussiest shipping lane, the powers that be don't want us in powerful position to challenge our stake on that shipping lane.
I know that but im talking in the grand scheme of things
The qabil mentality has got to be destroyed if we are to ever function as a country. I hope they add something like this to the school curriculum.
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BigBreak wrote: Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:44 am
KingMX wrote: Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:30 am its been almost 30 years.... meanwhile neighboring countries are developing in an ever increasing rate.
wrong part of SomaliNet but I’ll answer anyway

Of course your neighbours like Djibouti and my country Somaliland are doing better due to peace and a functioning strong government. Zoomalia must fight OG MJ hiraab raxanweyn federalism pirates terrorists and war profiteers as well as hostile foreign powers in order to recover unite and prosper
i fidn your statment ironic because your idoor, the first and original destroyers of somalia by going to the ahmaars in magustu times, yall taught armature Majerteens and hawiye how to subvert the government, like children they learned form idoor the art of destroying the nation,

though i admit placing a boon in charge was not smart sicne langaabs will always do what they do best,

w need a ruthless landeer or lets go our each own way, i am up for jubbaland breaking away from this ship called somalia since its sinking
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KingMX wrote: Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:48 am
BigBreak wrote: Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:44 am
KingMX wrote: Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:30 am its been almost 30 years.... meanwhile neighboring countries are developing in an ever increasing rate.
wrong part of SomaliNet but I’ll answer anyway

Of course your neighbours like Djibouti and my country Somaliland are doing better due to peace and a functioning strong government. Zoomalia must fight OG MJ hiraab raxanweyn federalism pirates terrorists and war profiteers as well as hostile foreign powers in order to recover unite and prosper
hate to argue with you but somaliland is not a country recognized anywhere also the toxic tribalism you spew is a massive part of the country problem. Didn't read the rest
It's a country better than yours you fking looser. There is no such thing "Somalia "
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Re: Will somalia ever be peaceful?

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KingMX wrote: Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:48 am
BigBreak wrote: Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:44 am
KingMX wrote: Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:30 am its been almost 30 years.... meanwhile neighboring countries are developing in an ever increasing rate.
wrong part of SomaliNet but I’ll answer anyway

Of course your neighbours like Djibouti and my country Somaliland are doing better due to peace and a functioning strong government. Zoomalia must fight OG MJ hiraab raxanweyn federalism pirates terrorists and war profiteers as well as hostile foreign powers in order to recover unite and prosper
hate to argue with you but somaliland is not a country recognized anywhere also the toxic tribalism you spew is a massive part of the country problem. Didn't read the rest
It's a country better than yours you fking looser. There is no such thing "Somalia "
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