Winners and Losers of the civil war

[Togdeer]

Winners:
1. Isaaq as a whole
2. Abgaal
3. MJ

Losers:
1. Mareehan
2. HG
3. Dhulbahante

[Kismaayo21]

Winners:
1. Isaaq as a whole
2. Abgaal
3. MJ

Losers:
1. Mareehan
2. HG
3. Dhulbahante

Isaaq are fighting within themselves, tukaraqna laabo qabiil aa iis horfafiyo . the civil war is still going in the north .


Still not recognised.
Gaajo iyo rafaad, huge shortage of drinking water in your fake capital. Most tahriibayaal are from somaliland.

You have an entire branch called Habar yonis who have defected from somaliland and are aiding their strong man Caare who has a base in Puntland. Somalilands rival. So technically Isaaq as a whole are losers . Mj’s are definitely winning against you guys and I support them fully. You can remove yourself from the list.

Isaaq as a whole is the equivalent of a sub clan of hawiye or darood, look at the list if you need visual presentation

[Togdeer]

Isaaq are the biggest winners of the civil war. We have peace unlike Somalia. We have a functioning government unlike Somalia. We don’t have not terrorism issues unlike Somalia. Hargeisa went from being bombed to to the ground to looking like one of the best Somali cities. It’s grown faster than all other cities inhabited by Somali. We control other clans that live within our border. We built up a factional state from scratch. Darood don’t have no cities it’s just towns.

Now let’s compare it to marehan:
No development what so ever gedo is the poorest region in Somalia. Galmudug your second choice to HG. Jubaland your second choice to OG. Your houses and villas got raided in Mogadishu. Your people became the biggest refugees in dadaab. You don’t have 1 city just villages. Your land is full of alshabab. Your people are dying of poverty. But your leader who is stuck in 1 bedroom villa surrounded by Amisom seems to be more interested in somaliland. You guys are crazy. First feed your people.

[Khalid Ali]

Isaaq samaroon
Majeeeteen
And abgaal


Losers wasakhgali qurjiile ogaden .boon marexaan

[FarhanYare]

How did Isaq won? Still no citiraaf. BTW I like the song citiraafkii wuu imaan

[Ben Dover]

Its funny. The historically relevant clans are all winning now. Isaaq, Abgaal/HG and MJ.

But the minor clans who have have temporarily surfaced to attain any level of relevance during Afweyne's dictatorship era are currently back where they started, and living in the worst conditions imaginable, even by Somali standard.

- Dhulbahante are suffering under permanent occupation by Isaaq. They have no hope, no way out, and are slowly succumbing to accept their place of subservience to Isaaq today. Notice how they used to be loud in their opposition to Isaaq hegemony years ago, but today, all they want is for Isaaq to throw them a bone. All their leaders have bent the knee, their are people completely disheartened. They even come out and vote in their droves for Isaaq candidates. Generally very little development in their region.. pretty much back to where they started, living in the shadow of Isaaq.

- Boon marehan. Another minor clans who have come on the scene by chance almost. Once they fled Mogadishu their clock restarted back from zero. Irrelevant towns, their regions have a single secondary school between them. Suffering under terrible occupation conditions by Kenya, to the point where their women are regularly seen throwing rocks at the occupiers whilst men are AWOL. Completely dominated by Hawiye and, like the qurjiile, have accepted their position of subservience to Hawiye. Absolutely no hope of development. Their cheeseman is living in constant fear, you can see it in his face, he is practically a hostage of Hawiye.

- Cagdheer. Still occupied. Always occupied.

[Individual]

Winners:
1. Isaaq as a whole
2. Abgaal
3. MJ

Losers:
1. Mareehan
2. HG
3. Dhulbahante

kkkkkk Kulaha HG are losers of the Civil war, defining some one a loser while having a state of its own called ''Galmudug HG state'', while having mps and other political stakes in Hiirshabelle (5 mps, and a whole district owned by HG), and Koonfur Galbeed (12 mps, and mayors both in Baraawe and Marke and SNA HQ Shalambood in HG's Hands) and Banaadir 7 Districts under HG.

If thats called being losers of the civil war, then indeed for HG losing is a bless.

[Individual]

Its funny. The historically relevant clans are all winning now. Isaaq, Abgaal/HG and MJ.

But the minor clans who have have temporarily surfaced to attain any level of relevance during Afweyne's dictatorship era are currently back where they started, and living in the worst conditions imaginable, even by Somali standard.

- Dhulbahante are suffering under permanent occupation by Isaaq. They have no hope, no way out, and are slowly succumbing to accept their place of subservience to Isaaq today. Notice how they used to be loud in their opposition to Isaaq hegemony years ago, but today, all they want is for Isaaq to throw them a bone. All their leaders have bent the knee, their are people completely disheartened. They even come out and vote in their droves for Isaaq candidates. Generally very little development in their region.. pretty much back to where they started, living in the shadow of Isaaq.

- Boon marehan. Another minor clans who have come on the scene by chance almost. Once they fled Mogadishu their clock restarted back from zero. Irrelevant towns, their regions have a single secondary school between them. Suffering under terrible occupation conditions by Kenya, to the point where their women are regularly seen throwing rocks at the occupiers whilst men are AWOL. Completely dominated by Hawiye and, like the qurjiile, have accepted their position of subservience to Hawiye. Absolutely no hope of development. Their cheeseman is living in constant fear, you can see it in his face, he is practically a hostage of Hawiye.

- Cagdheer. Still occupied. Always occupied.

Your right

The real winners without a shadow of a doubt are Isaaqs, HG and MJ's, as those 3 have states Presidency and its Capital without sharing with other clans such as in Jubaland and Hirshabelle fiasco where many clans are in Game of Throne struggle.

Having a state pure for yourself without sharing is indeed 100% winning.

[DalJecel60]

Winners
Isaaq (Have more leverage over the South)
MJ (Got the Autonomy and Development they were left out of)
Abgaal (More Involved in Politics and taken more Seriously).
Rahanweyn (More known and more political experience)
Losers
HG (Seen as allergic to Peace)
Marehan (Lost Presidency and after they were elected again not taken seriously)
Dhulbahante (Lost all Credibilty and living under the occupation of the same people they used to Abuse)
Ogaden (Seen as a minority in Somalia)

[Individual]

Winners
Isaaq (Have more leverage over the South)
MJ (Got the Autonomy and Development they were left out of)
Abgaal (More Involved in Politics and taken more Seriously).
Rahanweyn (More known and more political experience)
Losers
HG (Seen as allergic to Peace)
Marehan (Lost Presidency and after they were elected again not taken seriously)
Dhulbahante (Lost all Credibilty and living under the occupation of the same people they used to Abuse)
Ogaden (Seen as a minority in Somalia)

You call HG losers while giving reason as being ''seen as allergic to peace'', niyoow state a real fact about why HG is a loser instead of your mjs cuqdad feeling toward HG.

HG has more lands then some of those qabiils you mentioned as winners... having lands and power under lockdown is in my book winning not losing.

[grandpakhalif]

Somalia was much better under Marehan leadership than it is today. Joke of the world.

[FarhanYare]

Individual aka Evans,
You are compensating too much for your sheegatonimo. Drop the act

[FarhanYare]

I hate to say this, but I agree with grandpa. Sick and tired of the status quo.

[Individual]

Individual aka Evans,
You are compensating too much for your sheegatonimo. Drop the act

walaal for once use your head, and focus on those who attack you, such as this thread they call you ''HG'' falsely as the losers, and not me, yet you back grandpa when he is exclaiming his clan marexan in honor, walahi you sicken me as HG, instead of defending HG, your arselick the daroods.



p,s. And also ask yourself, what do i have to gain for being a sheegato, why would i claim HG for so many years?, just because of Khalids exposure of my pm, when i claimed mj in order to trick him onto something but only backfired on me.

[Khalid Ali]

Individual a a pure sheegato he is a filthy darood jabarti mj. Who pretends to be hawiye