The Kacaan was the greatest period in Somalia's development and history!

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Siad Barre was the greatest leader of the Horn. Greater than Haile Selassie and Menelik II

[AwRastaale]

Barre was the greatest Somali politician in the modern era but I wouldn't say he was greater than Atse Menelik who took his land from small southern Shewa to present day Ethiopia. He built an empire and defeated the Italians while Barre had to lie to the Italians so they may enroll him into their police academy.

Menelik played many against each others to get what he wanted. The Galla conquest was his greatest whom the Habesha was trying to conquer for many centuries.

He wiped 5 million Gallas out. Barre probably killed 500, 1000, 2000 in 1977?

[Nubis]

Yes, it was the greatest period.

[Xildiiid]

Afweyne Barre was the biggest failure in modern Somali history.

[Ben Dover]

Faqash keep repeating this lie that the Kacaan was some great period for the Somali Republic, the hope here is that if they repeat this lie enough times it would stick. The reality is that the Afweyne Kacaan was a failure in every assessment metric imaginable. No objective assessment of the Kacaan would ever come to the conclusion that it was "great" or successful.

In reality, doofaar ismaacil probably lived better than they could ever imagine, imagine being a worthless nomad in a shithole like Gedo and your entire family is uprooted and housed in the capital Mogadishu. They were all raised on xaaraan money looted from the state, so to them, the Kacaan was great. But everywhere else in the country the image painted by official statistics paint a bleak and miserable existence.

The Somali Republic was a beggar state, completely reliant on foreign aid, be it financial, humanitarian or military. Imagine being proud of being an aid recipient!

Now just to quantify Afweyne's ineptitude and failure, understand this, the Somali Republic was the largest per head recipient of aid in all of Africa!

Now, how did all of this aid materials on the ground:

Reality check. The World Bank:



Note: The Somali Republic under Afweyne Barre was one of the least developed countries on planet earth. With market exchange rate per capita GDP of $170 (!!!!), and life expectancy figures of 46 years. Yet shameless Boli Qaran orphans are trying to paint a picture of development and super-power-like resources capable of moving people en masse across the country.



Note: No economic achievements of the kacaan. Between 1970 (one year after Afweyne's coup) and 1980, there was no real growth in per capita income.



Note: Government's development expenditure are entirely financed by external assistance (i.e. donors/aid etc). These kacaan apologists have absolutely no shame in trying to revise history to portray their uncles mismanagement of the Somali Republic as some kind of golden age for Somalis. It was probably a golden age of Boli Qaran, raising your children on xaaraan money, their families who until recently were destitute nomads, the poorest among Somalis, were given access to a lifestyle they could not dream of. So to them, it was a great time.

The picture becomes very clear if we look at GDPs of regional economies at the time we see in comparison to the Somali Republic:

Tanzania: $10.4 Billion
Ethiopia: $8.9 Billion
Kenya $8.5 Billion
Uganda: $7.4 Billion
Gabon: $3.7 Billion
Papua: New Guinea $3.9 Billion
Gabon: $3.7 Billion
Zambia: $3.7 Billion
Madagascar: $3.5 Billion
Senegal: $2.8 Billion
Malawi: $2.1 Billion
Somali Republic: 1.3 Billion

Tanzania's GDP was almost 10X that of the Somali Republic! Zambia was almost 3X! Absolutely abysmal figures after 14 years of kacaan rule.

The story is not different when we look at GDP per capita:

Gabon: $4619
Papua New Guinea: $1215
Uganda: $601
Zambia: $562
Tanzania: $513
Senegal: $449
Kenya: $484
Madagascar: $371
Malawi: $298
Somali Republic: $250

"But but but.. I can show you YouTube videos of Xamar and it looked lit"

You are the dishonest children of the same people who caused the collapse of the Somali state. The colossal mismanagement of the state and the unimaginable level of corruption that your penniless families directly benefited from can never be erased. The Somali Republic was by any objective measure a horrible place to live, unless you had connections and lived in Xamar.

Afweyne Barre was a fool of epic proportions, the idiot squandered such an incredible opportunity, with the whole world willing to help, pumping hundreds of millions USD into the country, and with a cohesive, nationalistic population ready to serve their country. His sheer ineptitude and inability to take advantage of such opportune timing and availability of international goodwill is one for the history books.

[mahoka]

Barre was the greatest Somali politician in the modern era but I wouldn't say he was greater than Atse Menelik who took his land from small southern Shewa to present day Ethiopia. He built an empire and defeated the Italians while Barre had to lie to the Italians so they may enroll him into their police academy.

Menelik played many against each others to get what he wanted. The Galla conquest was his greatest whom the Habesha was trying to conquer for many centuries.

He wiped 5 million Gallas out. Barre probably killed 500, 1000, 2000 in 1977?

Brada we are talking about somalia’s Leaders and you bring in your amxaaro overlords kkkk. Menilik or whatever xabashi wasn’t a president in Somalia lol

[X.Playa]

Faqash keep repeating this lie that the Kacaan was some great period for the Somali Republic, the hope here is that if they repeat this lie enough times it would stick. The reality is that the Afweyne Kacaan was a failure in every assessment metric imaginable. No objective assessment of the Kacaan would ever come to the conclusion that it was "great" or successful.

In reality, doofaar ismaacil probably lived better than they could ever imagine, imagine being a worthless nomad in a shithole like Gedo and your entire family is uprooted and housed in the capital Mogadishu. They were all raised on xaaraan money looted from the state, so to them, the Kacaan was great. But everywhere else in the country the image painted by official statistics paint a bleak and miserable existence.

The Somali Republic was a beggar state, completely reliant on foreign aid, be it financial, humanitarian or military. Imagine being proud of being an aid recipient!

Now just to quantify Afweyne's ineptitude and failure, understand this, the Somali Republic was the largest per head recipient of aid in all of Africa!

Now, how did all of this aid materials on the ground:

Reality check. The World Bank:



Note: The Somali Republic under Afweyne Barre was one of the least developed countries on planet earth. With market exchange rate per capita GDP of $170 (!!!!), and life expectancy figures of 46 years. Yet shameless Boli Qaran orphans are trying to paint a picture of development and super-power-like resources capable of moving people en masse across the country.



Note: No economic achievements of the kacaan. Between 1970 (one year after Afweyne's coup) and 1980, there was no real growth in per capita income.



Note: Government's development expenditure are entirely financed by external assistance (i.e. donors/aid etc). These kacaan apologists have absolutely no shame in trying to revise history to portray their uncles mismanagement of the Somali Republic as some kind of golden age for Somalis. It was probably a golden age of Boli Qaran, raising your children on xaaraan money, their families who until recently were destitute nomads, the poorest among Somalis, were given access to a lifestyle they could not dream of. So to them, it was a great time.

The picture becomes very clear if we look at GDPs of regional economies at the time we see in comparison to the Somali Republic:

Tanzania: $10.4 Billion
Ethiopia: $8.9 Billion
Kenya $8.5 Billion
Uganda: $7.4 Billion
Gabon: $3.7 Billion
Papua: New Guinea $3.9 Billion
Gabon: $3.7 Billion
Zambia: $3.7 Billion
Madagascar: $3.5 Billion
Senegal: $2.8 Billion
Malawi: $2.1 Billion
Somali Republic: 1.3 Billion

Tanzania's GDP was almost 10X that of the Somali Republic! Zambia was almost 3X! Absolutely abysmal figures after 14 years of kacaan rule.

The story is not different when we look at GDP per capita:

Gabon: $4619
Papua New Guinea: $1215
Uganda: $601
Zambia: $562
Tanzania: $513
Senegal: $449
Kenya: $484
Madagascar: $371
Malawi: $298
Somali Republic: $250

"But but but.. I can show you YouTube videos of Xamar and it looked lit"

You are the dishonest children of the same people who caused the collapse of the Somali state. The colossal mismanagement of the state and the unimaginable level of corruption that your penniless families directly benefited from can never be erased. The Somali Republic was by any objective measure a horrible place to live, unless you had connections and lived in Xamar.

Afweyne Barre was a fool of epic proportions, the idiot squandered such an incredible opportunity, with the whole world willing to help, pumping hundreds of millions USD into the country, and with a cohesive, nationalistic population ready to serve their country. His sheer ineptitude and inability to take advantage of such opportune timing and availability of international goodwill is one for the history books.

Man you killed it , the Afweyne loyalist just fled the thread .

[Ben Dover]

Faqash keep repeating this lie that the Kacaan was some great period for the Somali Republic, the hope here is that if they repeat this lie enough times it would stick. The reality is that the Afweyne Kacaan was a failure in every assessment metric imaginable. No objective assessment of the Kacaan would ever come to the conclusion that it was "great" or successful.

In reality, doofaar ismaacil probably lived better than they could ever imagine, imagine being a worthless nomad in a shithole like Gedo and your entire family is uprooted and housed in the capital Mogadishu. They were all raised on xaaraan money looted from the state, so to them, the Kacaan was great. But everywhere else in the country the image painted by official statistics paint a bleak and miserable existence.

The Somali Republic was a beggar state, completely reliant on foreign aid, be it financial, humanitarian or military. Imagine being proud of being an aid recipient!

Now just to quantify Afweyne's ineptitude and failure, understand this, the Somali Republic was the largest per head recipient of aid in all of Africa!

Now, how did all of this aid materials on the ground:

Reality check. The World Bank:



Note: The Somali Republic under Afweyne Barre was one of the least developed countries on planet earth. With market exchange rate per capita GDP of $170 (!!!!), and life expectancy figures of 46 years. Yet shameless Boli Qaran orphans are trying to paint a picture of development and super-power-like resources capable of moving people en masse across the country.



Note: No economic achievements of the kacaan. Between 1970 (one year after Afweyne's coup) and 1980, there was no real growth in per capita income.



Note: Government's development expenditure are entirely financed by external assistance (i.e. donors/aid etc). These kacaan apologists have absolutely no shame in trying to revise history to portray their uncles mismanagement of the Somali Republic as some kind of golden age for Somalis. It was probably a golden age of Boli Qaran, raising your children on xaaraan money, their families who until recently were destitute nomads, the poorest among Somalis, were given access to a lifestyle they could not dream of. So to them, it was a great time.

The picture becomes very clear if we look at GDPs of regional economies at the time we see in comparison to the Somali Republic:

Tanzania: $10.4 Billion
Ethiopia: $8.9 Billion
Kenya $8.5 Billion
Uganda: $7.4 Billion
Gabon: $3.7 Billion
Papua: New Guinea $3.9 Billion
Gabon: $3.7 Billion
Zambia: $3.7 Billion
Madagascar: $3.5 Billion
Senegal: $2.8 Billion
Malawi: $2.1 Billion
Somali Republic: 1.3 Billion

Tanzania's GDP was almost 10X that of the Somali Republic! Zambia was almost 3X! Absolutely abysmal figures after 14 years of kacaan rule.

The story is not different when we look at GDP per capita:

Gabon: $4619
Papua New Guinea: $1215
Uganda: $601
Zambia: $562
Tanzania: $513
Senegal: $449
Kenya: $484
Madagascar: $371
Malawi: $298
Somali Republic: $250

"But but but.. I can show you YouTube videos of Xamar and it looked lit"

You are the dishonest children of the same people who caused the collapse of the Somali state. The colossal mismanagement of the state and the unimaginable level of corruption that your penniless families directly benefited from can never be erased. The Somali Republic was by any objective measure a horrible place to live, unless you had connections and lived in Xamar.

Afweyne Barre was a fool of epic proportions, the idiot squandered such an incredible opportunity, with the whole world willing to help, pumping hundreds of millions USD into the country, and with a cohesive, nationalistic population ready to serve their country. His sheer ineptitude and inability to take advantage of such opportune timing and availability of international goodwill is one for the history books.

Man you killed it , the Afweyne loyalist just fled the thread .

The bastards of the kacaan know the reality. Every single metric shows their beloved kacaan to be a horrible place to live if you were not in Mogadishu and knees deep in illegal corruption money. The Somali Republic was entirely reliant on aid, and was a horrible place to live for the vast majority of people.

They will never come and objectively discuss these figures.

[Xildiiid]

Where is AwAmxaar?

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Barre was the greatest Somali politician in the modern era but I wouldn't say he was greater than Atse Menelik who took his land from small southern Shewa to present day Ethiopia. He built an empire and defeated the Italians while Barre had to lie to the Italians so they may enroll him into their police academy.

Menelik played many against each others to get what he wanted. The Galla conquest was his greatest whom the Habesha was trying to conquer for many centuries.

He wiped 5 million Gallas out. Barre probably killed 500, 1000, 2000 in 1977?

Barre marched on Ethiopia by himself with us as his soliders. We faced the Xabashis and we're 60km away from their precious capital. Menelik was a colonial dog who go help by the British for arms. Why you think us Somalis got arms from the Fascist Italians? The British refused us modern weapons to fight. But we still crushed them and killed 11k in my hometown of Luuq.

No Menelik was protected by his kaffirnimo and colonial ties. Our ancestors held firm. Our political game was off not our might.

[vinshom]

Siyad Bare was a dictator, the whole country went to civil war because of him and you dare you saying that. Dadkaan in ee dadka ka caqli badanyahiin aye umaleyaan

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Faqash keep repeating this lie that the Kacaan was some great period for the Somali Republic, the hope here is that if they repeat this lie enough times it would stick. The reality is that the Afweyne Kacaan was a failure in every assessment metric imaginable. No objective assessment of the Kacaan would ever come to the conclusion that it was "great" or successful.

In reality, doofaar ismaacil probably lived better than they could ever imagine, imagine being a worthless nomad in a shithole like Gedo and your entire family is uprooted and housed in the capital Mogadishu. They were all raised on xaaraan money looted from the state, so to them, the Kacaan was great. But everywhere else in the country the image painted by official statistics paint a bleak and miserable existence.

The Somali Republic was a beggar state, completely reliant on foreign aid, be it financial, humanitarian or military. Imagine being proud of being an aid recipient!

Now just to quantify Afweyne's ineptitude and failure, understand this, the Somali Republic was the largest per head recipient of aid in all of Africa!

Now, how did all of this aid materials on the ground:

Reality check. The World Bank:



Note: The Somali Republic under Afweyne Barre was one of the least developed countries on planet earth. With market exchange rate per capita GDP of $170 (!!!!), and life expectancy figures of 46 years. Yet shameless Boli Qaran orphans are trying to paint a picture of development and super-power-like resources capable of moving people en masse across the country.



Note: No economic achievements of the kacaan. Between 1970 (one year after Afweyne's coup) and 1980, there was no real growth in per capita income.



Note: Government's development expenditure are entirely financed by external assistance (i.e. donors/aid etc). These kacaan apologists have absolutely no shame in trying to revise history to portray their uncles mismanagement of the Somali Republic as some kind of golden age for Somalis. It was probably a golden age of Boli Qaran, raising your children on xaaraan money, their families who until recently were destitute nomads, the poorest among Somalis, were given access to a lifestyle they could not dream of. So to them, it was a great time.

The picture becomes very clear if we look at GDPs of regional economies at the time we see in comparison to the Somali Republic:

Tanzania: $10.4 Billion
Ethiopia: $8.9 Billion
Kenya $8.5 Billion
Uganda: $7.4 Billion
Gabon: $3.7 Billion
Papua: New Guinea $3.9 Billion
Gabon: $3.7 Billion
Zambia: $3.7 Billion
Madagascar: $3.5 Billion
Senegal: $2.8 Billion
Malawi: $2.1 Billion
Somali Republic: 1.3 Billion

Tanzania's GDP was almost 10X that of the Somali Republic! Zambia was almost 3X! Absolutely abysmal figures after 14 years of kacaan rule.

The story is not different when we look at GDP per capita:

Gabon: $4619
Papua New Guinea: $1215
Uganda: $601
Zambia: $562
Tanzania: $513
Senegal: $449
Kenya: $484
Madagascar: $371
Malawi: $298
Somali Republic: $250

"But but but.. I can show you YouTube videos of Xamar and it looked lit"

You are the dishonest children of the same people who caused the collapse of the Somali state. The colossal mismanagement of the state and the unimaginable level of corruption that your penniless families directly benefited from can never be erased. The Somali Republic was by any objective measure a horrible place to live, unless you had connections and lived in Xamar.

Afweyne Barre was a fool of epic proportions, the idiot squandered such an incredible opportunity, with the whole world willing to help, pumping hundreds of millions USD into the country, and with a cohesive, nationalistic population ready to serve their country. His sheer ineptitude and inability to take advantage of such opportune timing and availability of international goodwill is one for the history books.

This is all bullshit that Mudane Voltage killed time after time. Idoors benefited the most from the Kacaan. Ungrateful bastards. I made you RICH because I refused to tax you and I built Berbera. Nacala ku yaal.

[X.Playa]

Faqash keep repeating this lie that the Kacaan was some great period for the Somali Republic, the hope here is that if they repeat this lie enough times it would stick. The reality is that the Afweyne Kacaan was a failure in every assessment metric imaginable. No objective assessment of the Kacaan would ever come to the conclusion that it was "great" or successful.

In reality, doofaar ismaacil probably lived better than they could ever imagine, imagine being a worthless nomad in a shithole like Gedo and your entire family is uprooted and housed in the capital Mogadishu. They were all raised on xaaraan money looted from the state, so to them, the Kacaan was great. But everywhere else in the country the image painted by official statistics paint a bleak and miserable existence.

The Somali Republic was a beggar state, completely reliant on foreign aid, be it financial, humanitarian or military. Imagine being proud of being an aid recipient!

Now just to quantify Afweyne's ineptitude and failure, understand this, the Somali Republic was the largest per head recipient of aid in all of Africa!

Now, how did all of this aid materials on the ground:

Reality check. The World Bank:



Note: The Somali Republic under Afweyne Barre was one of the least developed countries on planet earth. With market exchange rate per capita GDP of $170 (!!!!), and life expectancy figures of 46 years. Yet shameless Boli Qaran orphans are trying to paint a picture of development and super-power-like resources capable of moving people en masse across the country.



Note: No economic achievements of the kacaan. Between 1970 (one year after Afweyne's coup) and 1980, there was no real growth in per capita income.



Note: Government's development expenditure are entirely financed by external assistance (i.e. donors/aid etc). These kacaan apologists have absolutely no shame in trying to revise history to portray their uncles mismanagement of the Somali Republic as some kind of golden age for Somalis. It was probably a golden age of Boli Qaran, raising your children on xaaraan money, their families who until recently were destitute nomads, the poorest among Somalis, were given access to a lifestyle they could not dream of. So to them, it was a great time.

The picture becomes very clear if we look at GDPs of regional economies at the time we see in comparison to the Somali Republic:

Tanzania: $10.4 Billion
Ethiopia: $8.9 Billion
Kenya $8.5 Billion
Uganda: $7.4 Billion
Gabon: $3.7 Billion
Papua: New Guinea $3.9 Billion
Gabon: $3.7 Billion
Zambia: $3.7 Billion
Madagascar: $3.5 Billion
Senegal: $2.8 Billion
Malawi: $2.1 Billion
Somali Republic: 1.3 Billion

Tanzania's GDP was almost 10X that of the Somali Republic! Zambia was almost 3X! Absolutely abysmal figures after 14 years of kacaan rule.

The story is not different when we look at GDP per capita:

Gabon: $4619
Papua New Guinea: $1215
Uganda: $601
Zambia: $562
Tanzania: $513
Senegal: $449
Kenya: $484
Madagascar: $371
Malawi: $298
Somali Republic: $250

"But but but.. I can show you YouTube videos of Xamar and it looked lit"

You are the dishonest children of the same people who caused the collapse of the Somali state. The colossal mismanagement of the state and the unimaginable level of corruption that your penniless families directly benefited from can never be erased. The Somali Republic was by any objective measure a horrible place to live, unless you had connections and lived in Xamar.

Afweyne Barre was a fool of epic proportions, the idiot squandered such an incredible opportunity, with the whole world willing to help, pumping hundreds of millions USD into the country, and with a cohesive, nationalistic population ready to serve their country. His sheer ineptitude and inability to take advantage of such opportune timing and availability of international goodwill is one for the history books.

This is all bullshit that Mudane Voltage killed time after time. Idoors benefited the most from the Kacaan. Ungrateful bastards. I made you RICH because I refused to tax you and I built Berbera. Nacala ku yaal.

If you have nothing eligible to say and rebuttal him , shut the fuck up for god's sake , most of the time you just open your gap and make no sense at all , just bla bla bla to defend your minor langaab clan.

[Ben Dover]

Faqash keep repeating this lie that the Kacaan was some great period for the Somali Republic, the hope here is that if they repeat this lie enough times it would stick. The reality is that the Afweyne Kacaan was a failure in every assessment metric imaginable. No objective assessment of the Kacaan would ever come to the conclusion that it was "great" or successful.

In reality, doofaar ismaacil probably lived better than they could ever imagine, imagine being a worthless nomad in a shithole like Gedo and your entire family is uprooted and housed in the capital Mogadishu. They were all raised on xaaraan money looted from the state, so to them, the Kacaan was great. But everywhere else in the country the image painted by official statistics paint a bleak and miserable existence.

The Somali Republic was a beggar state, completely reliant on foreign aid, be it financial, humanitarian or military. Imagine being proud of being an aid recipient!

Now just to quantify Afweyne's ineptitude and failure, understand this, the Somali Republic was the largest per head recipient of aid in all of Africa!

Now, how did all of this aid materials on the ground:

Reality check. The World Bank:



Note: The Somali Republic under Afweyne Barre was one of the least developed countries on planet earth. With market exchange rate per capita GDP of $170 (!!!!), and life expectancy figures of 46 years. Yet shameless Boli Qaran orphans are trying to paint a picture of development and super-power-like resources capable of moving people en masse across the country.



Note: No economic achievements of the kacaan. Between 1970 (one year after Afweyne's coup) and 1980, there was no real growth in per capita income.



Note: Government's development expenditure are entirely financed by external assistance (i.e. donors/aid etc). These kacaan apologists have absolutely no shame in trying to revise history to portray their uncles mismanagement of the Somali Republic as some kind of golden age for Somalis. It was probably a golden age of Boli Qaran, raising your children on xaaraan money, their families who until recently were destitute nomads, the poorest among Somalis, were given access to a lifestyle they could not dream of. So to them, it was a great time.

The picture becomes very clear if we look at GDPs of regional economies at the time we see in comparison to the Somali Republic:

Tanzania: $10.4 Billion
Ethiopia: $8.9 Billion
Kenya $8.5 Billion
Uganda: $7.4 Billion
Gabon: $3.7 Billion
Papua: New Guinea $3.9 Billion
Gabon: $3.7 Billion
Zambia: $3.7 Billion
Madagascar: $3.5 Billion
Senegal: $2.8 Billion
Malawi: $2.1 Billion
Somali Republic: 1.3 Billion

Tanzania's GDP was almost 10X that of the Somali Republic! Zambia was almost 3X! Absolutely abysmal figures after 14 years of kacaan rule.

The story is not different when we look at GDP per capita:

Gabon: $4619
Papua New Guinea: $1215
Uganda: $601
Zambia: $562
Tanzania: $513
Senegal: $449
Kenya: $484
Madagascar: $371
Malawi: $298
Somali Republic: $250

"But but but.. I can show you YouTube videos of Xamar and it looked lit"

You are the dishonest children of the same people who caused the collapse of the Somali state. The colossal mismanagement of the state and the unimaginable level of corruption that your penniless families directly benefited from can never be erased. The Somali Republic was by any objective measure a horrible place to live, unless you had connections and lived in Xamar.

Afweyne Barre was a fool of epic proportions, the idiot squandered such an incredible opportunity, with the whole world willing to help, pumping hundreds of millions USD into the country, and with a cohesive, nationalistic population ready to serve their country. His sheer ineptitude and inability to take advantage of such opportune timing and availability of international goodwill is one for the history books.

This is all bullshit that Mudane Voltage killed time after time. Idoors benefited the most from the Kacaan. Ungrateful bastards. I made you RICH because I refused to tax you and I built Berbera. Nacala ku yaal.

So you admit you cant discuss these figures?

With regards to your boon cousin Voltage, guess what happened last time there was a discussion about official figures and statistics?

Spoilers: He fled the discussion

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 0&t=393838

Piss off boon, you can not discuss the numbers. Bring all your boon cousins if you must, your lies will never stand up to scrutiny, and you will be humiliated. You have my word.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

He's been refuted numerous times. No point in debating a delusional idoor. A idoor is the one talking on the video, about the Kacaan's greatest accomplishments. No Somali can refute the Kacaan in the first ten years. We made Somalia. Isaaq will never be our equal. Sorry. Keep the cuqdad. It shows I'm better than you and your a laangaab in the truest sense. You not Muslim. Why are you even debating w/ me? Bendover is from the only Somali clan in Somalia to have one of it's male members mehered off like a woman in Gar-Adag. And the only one to have a openly Christian member in Michael Mariamo. Idoor has no imaan or morals.