UN Rejects Kenyan Request Concerning Al Shaydaan

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Somalia lauds UN Security Council’s rejections of Kenya’s Al-Shabaab listing
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Hiiraan Online
Thursday August 29, 2019



MOGADISHU (HOL) -Somalia has hailed the move by the UN Security Council to block a proposal by Kenya to list Al-Shabaab as a global terrorist organisation.

Somalia’s permanent representative to the UN Abukar Osman said in a tweet following the UN Security Council decision Kenya had other avenues to counter Al-Shabaab instead of seeking a listing by the Security Council.

“Commend Council members for rejecting the unjustified listing of AS to 1267 and urge Kenyan Government to implement existing SC res. “751 targeting AS, including the ban of illegal charcoal trade in Somalia, which is the lifeline of the AS to finance its operations in the region,” ambassador Osman tweeted.

The Security Council’s move to block the proposal by Nairobi follows sustained campaigned against the proposal by former US diplomats and aid agencies which warned the listing of Al-Shabaab could impact on humanitarian efforts and further subject Somalis to suffering.

Kenyan troops serving in sector two which includes Kismayu under the AMISOM configuration have been sighted in various reports including UN Monitoring Group of facilitating charcoal trade which is a major revenue source for Al-Shabaab- the same group it is mandated to fight in Somalia.

Should the Kenyan proposal have gone through, the UN Security Council would authorise international sanctions including asset freezes, travel bans against groups or individuals suspecting of financing Al-Shabaab.

There were fears of Somali businesses especially in Kenya being unfairly targeted by Kenyan authorities.

[Django]

So in other words Alshabaab is not a terrorist organisation at all.



So why do we have AMISOM in Somalia?They should leave Somalia innit.

There is two govts in Somalia

Alshabaab govt

AMISOM bunker govt.

I do beleive Alshabaab having committed more crimes in Somalia than in Kenya.So why would Somalia not list Alshabaab in the terror list?They listed ONLF which was not even in the international list but on the Ethioipian domestic list.Why do you think Qalbi dagax was arrested even the ministers confirmed he was a terrorist.

ISIS is in the international terrorist list in USA even though they have never carried out one attack in the USA soil.

Alshabaab rules the entire South Somalia Jubbaland is just a fraction.

I think it was not the duty of Kenya to take it to UN security council but it was the duty of Somalia to do so.We just had a Mayor being killed by Alshabaab i Xamar.
So the question is if you deam ALshabaab not being terrorists and causing harm to Somalia.

The sea dispute is completely a different subject all together.Because when you have successive Kangaroo regimes in Villa Somalia each one claimming to be wadani but are rather hyenas it is indeed a sad It was Sh Shariff govt that sold the water.

Then we have failmajo regime shedding crocodile tears and yet under his nose the fishing rights of Somalia has been sold for 1million dollar per annum to China.Then there is rumour that he gufted Abye 5 major ports to Somalia in return they would invest and assist in every possible manner.

So Now we fight Kenya over the desputed water sold by Villa Somalia.

Then the chinese over the fishing rights sold by Villa Somalia.



Then we will fight against Ethiopia in the comming future about concessions they got from failmajo to use the Somali ports at the expense of Somalia.



So when China takes the draft about fighting piracy and illegal fishing off the somalia coast to the security.Somali government will reject it because this bill is likely to benefit Chinese?

[Django]

So in other words Alshabaab is not a terrorist organisation at all.



So why do we have AMISOM in Somalia?They should leave Somalia innit.

There is two govts in Somalia

Alshabaab govt

AMISOM bunker govt.

I do beleive Alshabaab having committed more crimes in Somalia than in Kenya.So why would Somalia not list Alshabaab in the terror list?They listed ONLF which was not even in the international list but on the Ethioipian domestic list.Why do you think Qalbi dagax was arrested even the ministers confirmed he was a terrorist.

ISIS is in the international terrorist list in USA even though they have never carried out one attack in the USA soil.

Alshabaab rules the entire South Somalia Jubbaland is just a fraction.

I think it was not the duty of Kenya to take it to UN security council but it was the duty of Somalia to do so.We just had a Mayor being killed by Alshabaab i Xamar.
So the question is if you deam ALshabaab not being terrorists and causing harm to Somalia.

The sea dispute is completely a different subject all together.Because when you have successive Kangaroo regimes in Villa Somalia each one claimming to be wadani but are rather hyenas it is indeed a sad It was Sh Shariff govt that sold the water.

Then we have failmajo regime shedding crocodile tears and yet under his nose the fishing rights of Somalia has been sold for 1million dollar per annum to China.Then there is rumour that he gufted Abye 5 major ports to Somalia in return they would invest and assist in every possible manner.

So Now we fight Kenya over the desputed water sold by Villa Somalia.

Then the chinese over the fishing rights sold by Villa Somalia.



Then we will fight against Ethiopia in the comming future about concessions they got from failmajo to use the Somali ports at the expense of Somalia.



So when China takes the draft about fighting piracy and illegal fishing off the somalia coast to the security.Somali government will reject it because this bill is likely to benefit Chinese?

[Turbulence]

So in other words Alshabaab is not a terrorist organisation at all.

Al Shaydaan allows aid organizations to function in the areas they control. Listing them alongside ISIS and sanctioning them means aid organizations are not allowed to work in areas they control therefore risking the lives of millions of poor Somalis who rely on these organizations for survival.

Then there is rumour that he gufted Abye 5 major ports to Somalia in return they would invest and assist in every possible manner.

Don't be absurd. Something that big cannot be hidden in this day and age and Farmaajo has enough enemies that would be would be using this information to attack him. The documents would have been leaked ages ago. Also I don't believe the president or prime minister can sign anything off without the permission of the parliament unless they are bypassing them and forging their signatures.

[Django]

So in other words Alshabaab is not a terrorist organisation at all.

Al Shaydaan allows aid organizations to function in the areas they control. Listing them alongside ISIS and sanctioning them means aid organizations are not allowed to work in areas they control therefore risking the lives of millions of poor Somalis who rely on these organizations for survival.

No they never they selectively allow only few areas especially where elaay is like Bay and Lower Shabelle and maybe Gedo however the amir in Afmadow,Buaale Badhaade etc who were non Ogaden they always turned away aid agencies as being Gaalo way before even Kenya was involved yet they levied.Till today they practise this same ritual.

Then there is rumour that he gufted Abye 5 major ports to Somalia in return they would invest and assist in every possible manner.

Don't be absurd. Something that big cannot be hidden in this day and age and Farmaajo has enough enemies that would be would be using this information to attack him. The documents would have been leaked ages ago. Also I don't believe the president or prime minister can sign anything off without the permission of the parliament unless they are bypassing them and forging their signatures.

Ok tell me did he pass through permision of parliament when he arrested Abu Mansur and used the Erhiopian military to silence protestors in Baidoa?
How legal was the Kangaroo election in Konfur galbeed where only one candidate ran for it.At least you could have made it abit credible like having contestors.
Was it justified to shed the blood of protestors using Foreigners.Was it justified to deny them what is constitutionaly their right?
Why was the blood of innocwnt civilians in Baidoa shed in cold blood? Why were they incercerated.

[Turbulence]

The Roobow issue was a national security issue. Koonfur Galbeed election committee illegally allowed Roobow to contest for the elections where he was not obviously allowed considering his background. There is nowhere in the world that allows convicted criminals to hold public offices let alone former terrorists. The government couldn't risk a "former" Al Shabab leader being the president of one of the regional states. International donors were also not happy with Roobow running for president. It is unfortunate that people died during his arrest but they were warned by the KG State police and armed forces to not get in the way but they knowingly chose to risk their lives and decided to complicate an already sensitive situation. Even then that is something that was local to a specific area in the country and not comparable to the port issue at all. Ever since what Dalxiis, Cumar Buur iyo Wijibarar did, selling off kheyraadka dalka which ports include requires permission from parliament that Farmaajo or any other leader in this government or future governments cannot fake.

[Django]

Robbow issue is a national issue but Zakaria who used to ran Amniyat in Gedo is not?

If Robbow had taken over he would have made AS lose grounds and popularity amongst Raxaweyn it would have been a big blow.AS were hunting Robbow and wanted to kill him I dont think its the same with Zakaria who " voluntarily" surrendered to the Somali govt.Zakaria " defection" would not lead to Marexan AS leaving.

Cumar Finish is an ex warlord of Xamar he is now the mayor so which book did you use to allow this criminal be appointed as Mayor of Xamar?

Bro there is no functuoning parliament in Somalia they have been inactivated by Farmajo.No body spoke about the Ethiopians killing simali citizens in Baidoa.Even the biggest democracies like UK,USA etc there is opposition.But how is it possible there is no opposition to Farmajo in parliament unless the country is turning into North Korea.

[AbdiWahab252]

Kenya should focus on its own battle with AS which controls half of Lamu country, 1/3 of Garissa county, 1/3 of Mandera