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Why are people against Xamar being a fed state?
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:35 am
by mahoka
Slputting aside the qabyaalad and fkd, why are some people (well only darod tribe really) is against mogadisho being its own federal state?
Federalism is a system brought in by darods as they felt mogadisho had too much control on their regions, now that Mogadishu has agreed to the fed system, they have rolled back the carpet.
Washington DC is it’s own fed state, you can’t have everyone else being a fed state and the biggest region population wise unrepresented.
To me it stinks of “your stuff we share, my stuff is only for me”
I think it is a testimony of the doqoniimo of the banaadir natives who won’t stand up for their region.
Also it seems the biggest fear for beesha darod is losing hawiye tax payer, of course there is an argument that most international aid and projects are concentrated around banaadir so this must be rectified.
Re: Why are people against Xamar being a fed state?
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:05 am
by Xingalol
This federal bullshit should be scrapped or the current federal states should be reshaped, Galmudug, puntland and Hiiran should be one state, Jowhar, Southwest and Jubaland shoud be another state, xamarna waa caasimada waddanka ,,, that is only way to tackle federal states builr on qabiil mentality.
Re: Why are people against Xamar being a fed state?
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:14 pm
by PrinceNugaalHawd
Washington DC is a District with no Senators & 1 Reperesentative in the Lower House & they can’t Vote, it’s not a Federal State.
Muqdisho is the Largest Somali city it has to be represented. Xaaq maaha.
Re: Why are people against Xamar being a fed state?
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:17 pm
by Samatalis249
PrinceNugaalHawd wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:14 pm
Washington DC is a District with no Senators & 1 Reperesentative in the Lower House & they can’t Vote, it’s not a Federal State.
Muqdisho is the Largest Somali city it has to be represented.
Berlin is a federal state. There is a difference between a federal state and an autonomous region. The mayor of Mogadishu will be picked by goolaha deeganka from now on and Mogadishu will only pay their % to the fed gov and not be the sole purse strings of the fed gov. Ninka dowladnimo raba % gisa ha bixiyo
Re: Why are people against Xamar being a fed state?
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:33 pm
by AwBakayle
How can Xamar be a federal state for Mudulood and remain the national capital at the same time?
How do you deny political rights to the hundreds of thousands of non Hawiye Somali citizens who live there?
Re: Why are people against Xamar being a fed state?
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:59 pm
by Samatalis249
AwBakayle wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:33 pm
How can Xamar be a federal state for Mudulood and remain the national capital at the same time?
How do you deny political rights to the hundreds of thousands of non Hawiye Somali citizens who live there?
There are no hundreds of thousands of Daroods in xamar. No one is denying anyone from xamar rights they will be represented in the golodeegan. Seeing as the city is dominated by hawiye and mudolood being the majority they will lead the federal state. Madaxtooyada iyo baarlamanka ayaa somali ka dhexeysa. Cashuurta hawiye walle inaanad ku naaxayn
Re: Why are people against Xamar being a fed state?
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:02 pm
by AwBakayle
At least one third of Muqdisho population is Digil and Mirifle clans. Jareer have large population too. A lot of Dir. They all pay taxes too. All Somali citizens who live in Muqdisho have rights.
Re: Why are people against Xamar being a fed state?
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:48 am
by theyuusuf143
AwBakayle wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:02 pm
At least one third of Muqdisho population is Digil and Mirifle clans. Jareer have large population too. A lot of Dir. They all pay taxes too. All Somali citizens who live in Muqdisho have rights.
That's not true , of course Mogadishu is big city with lots of different people , but its a hutu territory. The hutus has every rights to create Their own benaadir State , and that state should not contribute More than 30% of it's revenues to the national treasury. Mogadishu is not a hooker for every cabdi and faarax , it belongs to hawiye.
Re: Why are people against Xamar being a fed state?
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 5:03 am
by AbkoowDhiblaawe
theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:48 am
AwBakayle wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:02 pm
At least one third of Muqdisho population is Digil and Mirifle clans. Jareer have large population too. A lot of Dir. They all pay taxes too. All Somali citizens who live in Muqdisho have rights.
That's not true , of course Mogadishu is big city with lots of different people , but its a hutu territory. The hutus has every rights to create Their own benaadir State , and that state should not contribute More than 30% of it's revenues to the national treasury. Mogadishu is not a hooker for every cabdi and faarax , it belongs to hawiye.
Re: Why are people against Xamar being a fed state?
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:29 pm
by Nomand
theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:48 am
AwBakayle wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:02 pm
At least one third of Muqdisho population is Digil and Mirifle clans. Jareer have large population too. A lot of Dir. They all pay taxes too. All Somali citizens who live in Muqdisho have rights.
That's not true , of course Mogadishu is big city with lots of different people , but its a hutu territory. The hutus has every rights to create Their own benaadir State , and that state should not contribute More than 30% of it's revenues to the national treasury. Mogadishu is not a hooker for every cabdi and faarax , it belongs to hawiye.
5 percent is cadcad
20 percent of bantu
20 percent digil iyo mirifle
15 percent is other non hawiye somalis.
Hawiye is the rest.
And Mogadishu is the capital city if Somalia, as long as it remains the capital then it belongs to all somalis.
Re: Why are people against Xamar being a fed state?
Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:41 pm
by theyuusuf143
Nomand wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:29 pm
theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:48 am
AwBakayle wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:02 pm
At least one third of Muqdisho population is Digil and Mirifle clans. Jareer have large population too. A lot of Dir. They all pay taxes too. All Somali citizens who live in Muqdisho have rights.
That's not true , of course Mogadishu is big city with lots of different people , but its a hutu territory. The hutus has every rights to create Their own benaadir State , and that state should not contribute More than 30% of it's revenues to the national treasury. Mogadishu is not a hooker for every cabdi and faarax , it belongs to hawiye.
5 percent is cadcad
20 percent of bantu
20 percent digil iyo mirifle
15 percent is other non hawiye somalis.
Hawiye is the rest.
And Mogadishu is the capital city if Somalia, as long as it remains the capital then it belongs to all somalis.
So in your little imagination 60% of Mogadishu population is non Hawiye, Ironically non of these people have buildings in Mogadishu , not even a basic residential places to live. Except the benaadiri community.
Re: Why are people against Xamar being a fed state?
Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:36 pm
by Nomand
theyuusuf143 wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:41 pm
Nomand wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:29 pm
theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:48 am
That's not true , of course Mogadishu is big city with lots of different people , but its a hutu territory. The hutus has every rights to create Their own benaadir State , and that state should not contribute More than 30% of it's revenues to the national treasury. Mogadishu is not a hooker for every cabdi and faarax , it belongs to hawiye.
5 percent is cadcad
20 percent of bantu
20 percent digil iyo mirifle
15 percent is other non hawiye somalis.
Hawiye is the rest.
And Mogadishu is the capital city if Somalia, as long as it remains the capital then it belongs to all somalis.
So in your little imagination 60% of Mogadishu population is non Hawiye, Ironically non of these people have buildings in Mogadishu , not even a basic residential places to live. Except the benaadiri community.
It's no imagination it's the truth even the 40 percent I gave them is being over generous.
I probably underrepresented the bantu and rahanweyn community between those two they are atleast 50 percent of Mogadishu.
Re: Why are people against Xamar being a fed state?
Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:36 pm
by ReturnOfMariixmaan
Let the Hutus and idoors have whatever. But Jubbaland and Puntland unaka leh.

Re: Why are people against Xamar being a fed state?
Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:52 pm
by Ardentte
Nomand wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:36 pm
theyuusuf143 wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:41 pm
Nomand wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:29 pm
5 percent is cadcad
20 percent of bantu
20 percent digil iyo mirifle
15 percent is other non hawiye somalis.
Hawiye is the rest.
And Mogadishu is the capital city if Somalia, as long as it remains the capital then it belongs to all somalis.
So in your little imagination 60% of Mogadishu population is non Hawiye, Ironically non of these people have buildings in Mogadishu , not even a basic residential places to live. Except the benaadiri community.
It's no imagination it's the truth even the 40 percent I gave them is being over generous.
I probably underrepresented the bantu and rahanweyn community between those two they are atleast 50 percent of Mogadishu.
Your math is compleatly off you forgot the greate Sade who make 60% of Xamar and 90% of Gedo and 80% of Jubbaland. The math of huntergatherers is fascinating. Just prepare to diversify Gedo leadership when Farmaajo is kicked out in 2021. You have empowered the mighty D&M whom lands you squat in. InshaAllaah we will show them the path to the promised land.

Re: Why are people against Xamar being a fed state?
Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:47 pm
by ReturnOfMariixmaan
Ardentte wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:52 pm
Nomand wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:36 pm
theyuusuf143 wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:41 pm
So in your little imagination 60% of Mogadishu population is non Hawiye, Ironically non of these people have buildings in Mogadishu , not even a basic residential places to live. Except the benaadiri community.
It's no imagination it's the truth even the 40 percent I gave them is being over generous.
I probably underrepresented the bantu and rahanweyn community between those two they are atleast 50 percent of Mogadishu.
Your math is compleatly off you forgot the greate Sade who make 60% of Xamar and 90% of Gedo and 80% of Jubbaland. The math of huntergatherers is fascinating. Just prepare to diversify Gedo leadership when Farmaajo is kicked out in 2021. You have empowered the mighty D&M whom lands you squat in. InshaAllaah we will show them the path to the promised land.
The Great Sade is cucking in your own "deegaans" and empowering your enemy that humiliated you in Dhusamareeb last night. Rahanweyn sees you as a greater threat than MX. Baraawe, Marka anybody? That's Konfuur Galbeed if I'm not wrong?
HAG fell off. To the point your begging D&M. How the mighty fell.
