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Kkkk
I heard Troops in lower shabeele are said to go thru Jilib via Baraawe in coming months and I can confirm you
airplanes of Farxaan Qaroole Haramcad ciyaal suuqa Xamar troops are deployed taken from Dhuusamareeb and Mogadishu to Gedo. I have seen ceyr cabsiiye guy who was part of haramcadka Dhuusamareeb talking to his family here from Gedo kkk
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Re: Kismayu

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Good luck lol. I don't see that happening easily. Al shabab are extremely concentrated in those areas.
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Re: Kismayu

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MahadAbdalla

If there were Iljeex there this skirmish would have been over in hours
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AbdiWahab252 wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:09 pm MahadAbdalla

If there were Iljeex there this skirmish would have been over in hours
AW this NN group are using theory of lafo maroodi ayagaa la isku jebshaa. They decided to use iljeex Abgaal look at any troop leader it's Abgaal or HG.

The trick against Ahlusuna when they asked to hand their troops over to dowlada then used iljeex NISA Galmudug 21 division and troops from Xamar plus ex Ahlusuna troops who become dowlada against the left over of Ahlusuna gave them to become more bold

They are using iljeex, Abgaal and Xawaadle lower shabelle troops to move to middle juba and deploying the new troops train by Turkish from Xamar to gedo via airplanes. Biyomaal are mad because since last year the only positions biyomaal held in lower shabeele are all replaced by NN and named an iljeex in lower shabeele. This could be Kheyre I'm not sure

They even named ex Prisident HSM closer causing for NISA to use Abgaal against one another but this whole thing I see an advantage to HAG no matter where you look today it's all HAG most of commanders and soon we will have one leg in JL


This four year of NN is good for HAG and specially HG, before when HSM was in the helmet jebertis and almost all other Hawiye where United against HG. If you look at the Mogadishu prisoners it was full of HG and only HG are use to be used for government card to harm them but Today they flip the coint and government card is been used against jebertis one another kkk this works for us in a long term
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Re: Kismayu

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Look at Galmudug it's not balance any more. NN gave both 21 division and NISA to Sacad after the Saleeban NISA Cabdi dheere refused to attack Ahlusuna they brought reer ayaanle Sacad guy from Xamar to do the dirty deeds even though this sounds bad but they manage remove a confederation multi clan umbrella the Ahlusuna mafia this gave Ceyr HG an upper hand from now on. It's a win for iljeex as a whole
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Re: Kismayu

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mahadalla wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:49 pm
AbdiWahab252 wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:09 pm MahadAbdalla

If there were Iljeex there this skirmish would have been over in hours
AW this NN group are using theory of lafo maroodi ayagaa la isku jebshaa. They decided to use iljeex Abgaal look at any troop leader it's Abgaal or HG.

The trick against Ahlusuna when they asked to hand their troops over to dowlada then used iljeex NISA Galmudug 21 division and troops from Xamar plus ex Ahlusuna troops who become dowlada against the left over of Ahlusuna gave them to become more bold

They are using iljeex, Abgaal and Xawaadle lower shabelle troops to move to middle juba and deploying the new troops train by Turkish from Xamar to gedo via airplanes. Biyomaal are mad because since last year the only positions biyomaal held in lower shabeele are all replaced by NN and named an iljeex in lower shabeele. This could be Kheyre I'm not sure

They even named ex Prisident HSM closer causing for NISA to use Abgaal against one another but this whole thing I see an advantage to HAG no matter where you look today it's all HAG most of commanders and soon we will have one leg in JL


This four year of NN is good for HAG and specially HG, before when HSM was in the helmet jebertis and almost all other Hawiye where United against HG. If you look at the Mogadishu prisoners it was full of HG and only HG are use to be used for government card to harm them but Today they flip the coint and government card is been used against jebertis one another kkk this works for us in a long term

The Cali Gaaf kid refused to be used to attack mudulood.
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Re: Kismayu

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AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:01 pm
mahadalla wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:49 pm
AbdiWahab252 wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:09 pm MahadAbdalla

If there were Iljeex there this skirmish would have been over in hours
AW this NN group are using theory of lafo maroodi ayagaa la isku jebshaa. They decided to use iljeex Abgaal look at any troop leader it's Abgaal or HG.

The trick against Ahlusuna when they asked to hand their troops over to dowlada then used iljeex NISA Galmudug 21 division and troops from Xamar plus ex Ahlusuna troops who become dowlada against the left over of Ahlusuna gave them to become more bold

They are using iljeex, Abgaal and Xawaadle lower shabelle troops to move to middle juba and deploying the new troops train by Turkish from Xamar to gedo via airplanes. Biyomaal are mad because since last year the only positions biyomaal held in lower shabeele are all replaced by NN and named an iljeex in lower shabeele. This could be Kheyre I'm not sure

They even named ex Prisident HSM closer causing for NISA to use Abgaal against one another but this whole thing I see an advantage to HAG no matter where you look today it's all HAG most of commanders and soon we will have one leg in JL


This four year of NN is good for HAG and specially HG, before when HSM was in the helmet jebertis and almost all other Hawiye where United against HG. If you look at the Mogadishu prisoners it was full of HG and only HG are use to be used for government card to harm them but Today they flip the coint and government card is been used against jebertis one another kkk this works for us in a long term

The Cali Gaaf kid refused to be used to attack mudulood.
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AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote:
mahadalla wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:49 pm
AbdiWahab252 wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:09 pm MahadAbdalla

If there were Iljeex there this skirmish would have been over in hours
AW this NN group are using theory of lafo maroodi ayagaa la isku jebshaa. They decided to use iljeex Abgaal look at any troop leader it's Abgaal or HG.

The trick against Ahlusuna when they asked to hand their troops over to dowlada then used iljeex NISA Galmudug 21 division and troops from Xamar plus ex Ahlusuna troops who become dowlada against the left over of Ahlusuna gave them to become more bold

They are using iljeex, Abgaal and Xawaadle lower shabelle troops to move to middle juba and deploying the new troops train by Turkish from Xamar to gedo via airplanes. Biyomaal are mad because since last year the only positions biyomaal held in lower shabeele are all replaced by NN and named an iljeex in lower shabeele. This could be Kheyre I'm not sure

They even named ex Prisident HSM closer causing for NISA to use Abgaal against one another but this whole thing I see an advantage to HAG no matter where you look today it's all HAG most of commanders and soon we will have one leg in JL


This four year of NN is good for HAG and specially HG, before when HSM was in the helmet jebertis and almost all other Hawiye where United against HG. If you look at the Mogadishu prisoners it was full of HG and only HG are use to be used for government card to harm them but Today they flip the coint and government card is been used against jebertis one another kkk this works for us in a long term

The Cali Gaaf kid refused to be used to attack mudulood.
I know they won't find Abgaal to contain Abgaal, this is not like Ahlusuna confederation clans, it's one clan an Abgaal and no Abgaal want to become criminal and attack his own people but they will keep looking since lafo maroodi ayagaa la is ku jabshaa works to use one against him self
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Re: Kismayu

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Lots of the nonJeberti qabiil In Jubbaland who were antiHG back in the day will welcome them back with open arms. They have seen what Jeberti occupation has cost them.
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Re: Kismayu

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mahadalla wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:49 pm
AbdiWahab252 wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:09 pm MahadAbdalla

If there were Iljeex there this skirmish would have been over in hours
AW this NN group are using theory of lafo maroodi ayagaa la isku jebshaa. They decided to use iljeex Abgaal look at any troop leader it's Abgaal or HG.

The trick against Ahlusuna when they asked to hand their troops over to dowlada then used iljeex NISA Galmudug 21 division and troops from Xamar plus ex Ahlusuna troops who become dowlada against the left over of Ahlusuna gave them to become more bold

They are using iljeex, Abgaal and Xawaadle lower shabelle troops to move to middle juba and deploying the new troops train by Turkish from Xamar to gedo via airplanes. Biyomaal are mad because since last year the only positions biyomaal held in lower shabeele are all replaced by NN and named an iljeex in lower shabeele. This could be Kheyre I'm not sure

They even named ex Prisident HSM closer causing for NISA to use Abgaal against one another but this whole thing I see an advantage to HAG no matter where you look today it's all HAG most of commanders and soon we will have one leg in JL


This four year of NN is good for HAG and specially HG, before when HSM was in the helmet jebertis and almost all other Hawiye where United against HG. If you look at the Mogadishu prisoners it was full of HG and only HG are use to be used for government card to harm them but Today they flip the coint and government card is been used against jebertis one another kkk this works for us in a long term


Sxb, Farmaajo deliberately kept his name off absolutely anything remotely connecting him to disciplinary HAG actions. From Military appointments, to police appointments they have been hired, empowered to do as they please. If there are raids, detentions, etc in Xamar it is HAG policing HAG. Remember in the AY area you had him as President, and this MJ fella Security minister who’s name I cannot remember for the life of me who basically had HAG in detention camps. That was ill advised and not good for optics as it was painted as Darood on Hawiye. Farmaajo probably took a learning lesson from Let HAG Aggressively police, discipline, and get their hands dirty with other HAG so Dawladnimo can return.
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Re: Kismayu

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Murax-

Security Reform is still in Transition. It just transitioned into Phase II.

With that I mean, if you notice "someone" these days going into to Beled-Xaawo topics and repeating 10X some military person is from this or there and going off on a tangent how they are not supposed to be there explaining what they mean with some incoherent understanding of Security Architecture and then posting one of the articles I originally posted to explain to him what Security Reform really is about...

...I bring that up to say the views of that person, the reer baadiye ignorance of Mahadalla in this topic, and your accurate contextualizion of their positions....

..ALL HAVE TO DO WITH THE SOMALI "ARMY" BEFORE SECURITY REFORM.

Literally the day the Security Architecture plan was agreed to designed by Farmaajo gov is "YEAR 0" or THE DATE OF BIRTH OF THE NEW SOMALI ARMY"

The Security Architecture is the BASE of the armed forces.

The ARCHITECTURE is exactly that; AN ARCHITECTURE

For exmaple, Mahadalla here shows GROSS IGNORANCE that is shocking, evem worse than the other person who doesn't understand federal vs. local

-What is ARMY "CIIDAN"
-WHAT IS "INTELLIGENCE" "SIR DOON"
"WHAT IS LAW ENFORCEMENT "NABAD SUGID"
WHAT IS CUSTODIAL/CORRECTIONS "ASLUUB

WITH MANY OF THOSE

-WHAT IS THE DEPARTMENT "HAAYAD"
WHAT IS THE BRANCH "LAAN"
WHAT IS THE OFFICE "XAFIISKA"
WHAT IS THE SECTOR "QAYB"


AND THEN

WHo IS UNDER WASAARADA GUDAHA "LAAMA AMAANKA" (like police or intelligence)
WHO IS UNDER WASAARADA DIFAACA "LAAMAHA XOOGA (like army or air force)
WHO IS IS UNDER WASAARADA CADAALADA "ASLUUBTA" (like prison guard)

And then WHAT IS SHARED "POLICE HAS HARAMCAD BUT WHEN ACTIVATED IS SHARED WITH THE ARMY----SO BOTH DEFENSE AND INTERIOR ARE SHARING THEM

DANAB IS ARMY SO COMES UNDER DEFENSE BUT WHEN ACTIVATED IS SHARED WITH NABAD SUGID SO INTERIOR GETS INVOLVED

AND THEN FINALLY

WHAT IS FEDERAL (EXAMPLE ALL ARMY) + (SOME POLICE LIKE FEDERAL STABILIZATION POLICE OR HARAMCAD)

WHAT IS REGIONAL (LOCAL POLICE AND STATE GUARD OR DARAAWISH)

WHEN DO FEDERAL AND LOCAL MIX (DARAAWIISH ARE ALWAYS CONTROLLED BY FEDERAL STATE WHEN ON RESERVE BUT WHEN ACTIVATED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THEY ARE ARMY AND COME UNDER DEFENSE MINISTRY)

ALSO TO EXPLAIN SPECIAL FORCES

PREPARATION = NISA SPECIAL FORCES = ALPHA GROUP = COUNTER TERRORISM = WASAARADA ARRIMAHA GUDAHA

TO MOVE IN = ARMY SPECIAL FORCES = DANAB = TACTICAL OPERATIONS= WASARADA ARRIMAHA DIFAACA

.....THEN PLACE IS CAPTURE BY ARMY......

TO HOLD = POLICE SPECIAL FORCES = HARAM CAD = =STABALIZATION = WASAARADA ARRIMAHA GUDAHA

.......IF THE TOWN BEING HELD IS IN DANGER OF GOING BACK.....

ARMY RANGERS = GORGOR = COUNTER INSURGENCY = DEFENSE MINISTRY



I mean this guy Mahadalla doesn't even understand

1. Dhusamareb was not held by Shabab
2. Ahlu Sunnah was allied to government
3. The government was already in the town

All ready you would know this has nothing to DO WITH NISA OR EVEN DANAB

Danab Sector 21 led by MUKHTAR AFKU XOOGWEYN (MAREHAN/RER SIYAAD XUSSEIN) had already formally "captured" DHUUSAMAREEB AND GURICEEL LAST FALL IF YOU REMEMBER







INA AFKU XOOGWEYN AND HIS BOYS WERE SENT THERE FOR THAT REASON IF YOU REMEMBER THE CONTROVERYSE SURROUNDING THE COUPLE HUNDRED DANAB AIRLIFTED THERE LAST SUMMER

SO THE TOWN WASN'T EVEN IN AHLU SUNNAH HANDS

It was under Stabilization Police Haramcad led by a Digle and Mirifle commander AS A PLACE ALREADY MILITARILY CONTROLLED BY THE GOVERNMENT

This is the ignorance surrounding Somali governance
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Re: Kismayu

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Voltage wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:08 am Murax-

Security Reform is still in Transition. It just transitioned into Phase II.

With that I mean, if you notice "someone" these days going into to Beled-Xaawo topics and repeating 10X some military person is from this or there and going off on a tangent how they are not supposed to be there explaining what they mean with some incoherent understanding of Security Architecture and then posting one of the articles I originally posted to explain to him what Security Reform really is about...

...I bring that up to say the views of that person, the reer baadiye ignorance of Mahadalla in this topic, and your accurate contextualizion of their positions....

..ALL HAVE TO DO WITH THE SOMALI "ARMY" BEFORE SECURITY REFORM.

Literally the day the Security Architecture plan was agreed to designed by Farmaajo gov is "YEAR 0" or THE DATE OF BIRTH OF THE NEW SOMALI ARMY"

The Security Architecture is the BASE of the armed forces.

The ARCHITECTURE is exactly that; AN ARCHITECTURE

For exmaple, Mahadalla here shows GROSS IGNORANCE that is shocking, evem worse than the other person who doesn't understand federal vs. local

-What is ARMY "CIIDAN"
-WHAT IS "INTELLIGENCE" "SIR DOON"
"WHAT IS LAW ENFORCEMENT "NABAD SUGID"
WHAT IS CUSTODIAL/CORRECTIONS "ASLUUB

WITH MANY OF THOSE

-WHAT IS THE DEPARTMENT "HAAYAD"
WHAT IS THE BRANCH "LAAN"
WHAT IS THE OFFICE "XAFIISKA"
WHAT IS THE SECTOR "QAYB"


AND THEN

WHo IS UNDER WASAARADA GUDAHA "LAAMA AMAANKA" (like police or intelligence)
WHO IS UNDER WASAARADA DIFAACA "LAAMAHA XOOGA (like army or air force)
WHO IS IS UNDER WASAARADA CADAALADA "ASLUUBTA" (like prison guard)

And then WHAT IS SHARED "POLICE HAS HARAMCAD BUT WHEN ACTIVATED IS SHARED WITH THE ARMY----SO BOTH DEFENSE AND INTERIOR ARE SHARING THEM

DANAB IS ARMY SO COMES UNDER DEFENSE BUT WHEN ACTIVATED IS SHARED WITH NABAD SUGID SO INTERIOR GETS INVOLVED

AND THEN FINALLY

WHAT IS FEDERAL (EXAMPLE ALL ARMY) + (SOME POLICE LIKE FEDERAL STABILIZATION POLICE OR HARAMCAD)

WHAT IS REGIONAL (LOCAL POLICE AND STATE GUARD OR DARAAWISH)

WHEN DO FEDERAL AND LOCAL MIX (DARAAWIISH ARE ALWAYS CONTROLLED BY FEDERAL STATE WHEN ON RESERVE BUT WHEN ACTIVATED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THEY ARE ARMY AND COME UNDER DEFENSE MINISTRY)

ALSO TO EXPLAIN SPECIAL FORCES

PREPARATION = NISA SPECIAL FORCES = ALPHA GROUP = COUNTER TERRORISM = WASAARADA ARRIMAHA GUDAHA

TO MOVE IN = ARMY SPECIAL FORCES = DANAB = TACTICAL OPERATIONS= WASARADA ARRIMAHA DIFAACA

.....THEN PLACE IS CAPTURE BY ARMY......

TO HOLD = POLICE SPECIAL FORCES = HARAM CAD = =STABALIZATION = WASAARADA ARRIMAHA GUDAHA

.......IF THE TOWN BEING HELD IS IN DANGER OF GOING BACK.....

ARMY RANGERS = GORGOR = COUNTER INSURGENCY = DEFENSE MINISTRY



I mean this guy Mahadalla doesn't even understand

1. Dhusamareb was not held by Shabab
2. Ahlu Sunnah was allied to government
3. The government was already in the town

All ready you would know this has nothing to DO WITH NISA OR EVEN DANAB

Danab Sector 21 led by MUKHTAR AFKU XOOGWEYN (MAREHAN/RER SIYAAD XUSSEIN) had already formally "captured" DHUUSAMAREEB AND GURICEEL LAST FALL IF YOU REMEMBER







INA AFKU XOOGWEYN AND HIS BOYS WERE SENT THERE FOR THAT REASON IF YOU REMEMBER THE CONTROVERYSE SURROUNDING THE COUPLE HUNDRED DANAB AIRLIFTED THERE LAST SUMMER

SO THE TOWN WASN'T EVEN IN AHLU SUNNAH HANDS

It was under Stabilization Police Haramcad led by a Digle and Mirifle commander AS A PLACE ALREADY MILITARILY CONTROLLED BY THE GOVERNMENT

This is the ignorance surrounding Somali governance


Ma Shaa Allah this is great info.


Tbh the new guy that talked about the Cayr guy in B Xaawo don’t know if he was just genuinely surprised, joking or whatever but for me it is actually a proud moment for me as a Somali that Somali soldiers of all clans have been deployed to the border in Gedo, while Raxanwein Hadamcad are policing in Dhusamareeb, Xawaadle soldiers sent to Ceelbuur, and I can go on....we are FINALLY starting to resemble a real nation!


I was in Southern Oman, and when going close to the Yemeni border Omani military checkpoints were everywhere. All the Omani soldiers deployed near the Yemeni border were Northern Omanis, while the Southern ones are stationed North. This is how a real military operates so Wallahi I’m happy if there are Non MR troops in Gedo, WELCOME to your home!
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