FlyDubai forced to turn around from Hargeisa by Somalia Gov

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FlyDubai forced to turn around from Hargeisa by Somalia Gov

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They tried to ignore but Somalia Air Traffic control displayed its new found legitimacy and control and directly involved UAE AIr Traffic control to reach its airplane, turn then around, AND NOT TO APPROVE ANY FLIGHTS TO ANY PART OF SOMALIA AGAIN.

UAE tried to test us alright; they got stared down.

Also, Ethiopia has ground all flights to all of Somalia per FGS.

https://hiiraan.com/news4/2020/Mar/1674 ... pdateFront
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Re: FlyDubai forced to turn around from Hargeisa by Somalia Gov

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Interesting development, but I believe the FG & maamul goboleedka WG ought to negotiate and reach some form of agreements. It's time each party care about the needs of shacabka.
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Re: FlyDubai forced to turn around from Hargeisa by Somalia Gov

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Wallahi marmar waxan uu malaynaya inaad walaantaheen. With what power did they turn around an aircraft? Do you know what ICAO is? Do you know many countries don’t even use it? Do you know what functions it gives. Go to ICAO website and read what class Somalia’s Airspace is it’s class G uncontrolled. The only thing that can control airspace is a fighter jet. The only thing that can close an airport is if you’re in fisical control of it. The only thing that can stop an airline traveling the route is if you have a relationship with them. e.g. if they fly to your other airports and you’ll refuse entry to the others as leverage.

Hargeisa airport has been off the ICAO system since Somalia broke the Istanbul agreement. The UAE announced a stop on all entry to there country while the plane was mid flight. The UAE residence holders including the pilots and the crew didn’t want to be stuck in hargeisa and turned back.

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The troll farm then went on a propaganda spree posting as much disinformation as they possible could. Ugu dambayn waxay ogaa deen xaqiqada dhabta ah oo in Ethiopian airlines hargeisa ka so degeyso beri oo war kale oo propogando ah bey ka so gaadsiyeen imika.



The question is if ICAO could block flights there would be no flights to tiawan. Nor would Adan barre ducaale touch down in Kismayo and talk about uunsi. Nor would it have taken this long for Farmajo to try to stop air traffic to SL.
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Re: FlyDubai forced to turn around from Hargeisa by Somalia Gov

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Its fake news created by some Landers for their own propaganda advantage.

Voltage we know xitaa hadaad OXYGEN noo haysaan inaad naga xidhi lahaydeen. Ilaahay nama kiin bado.
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This is why i am little bit reserved about celebrating too early what people write. Imagine the embarrassment and disgust on the faces of the people that for two days stated no foreign airline can land on Somali territory but all of a sudden Ethiopian Airlines lands in Hargeysa tomorrow. Imagine the joy and exhilaration that the opposition (mainly the cash-for-sea AWW) and their media puppets (i can already see Abkow being the first to post the news and Sahal making a 2021 deal between Kheyre and Abiy) will derive from such news.

The other thing is the government never jumps ahead of the rumors and redirects to affirm its position and stances, although, for this particular one Omar was emphatic about the fact the ban was in effect nationwide.

It will be interesting under what pretext Ethiopian Airlines lands under such conditions, especially against the word of the minister. Do we all of a sudden have another Adan Duale scenerio in terms of airspace violation? is tripartite and regional integration movement over?
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Re: FlyDubai forced to turn around from Hargeisa by Somalia Gov

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Ninka amisom oo Burundi ah dal gaal oo African oo aduun ugu gajeysan ku ilaleso wada kilometer 4 baa le madxweyne ahey kkkk oo cirka iyo dhulka Somalia mamula. Wa La riyoda lkn faqash riyoda wa mid marqaamsan iska daaya qamriga iyo miira kkkk hada iksu daraan Bala dhuushan oo diyar ismoodan.
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Re: FlyDubai forced to turn around from Hargeisa by Somalia Gov

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Samatalis249 wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:50 pm Hargeisa airport has been off the ICAO system since Somalia broke the Istanbul agreement. The UAE announced a stop on all entry to there country while the plane was mid flight. The UAE residence holders including the pilots and the crew didn’t want to be stuck in hargeisa and turned back.

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Nice try.

Unfortunately, for you, there is an amateur mistake in this fictional account; namely the time discrepancy.

Taking the whole thing strictly at its word and not even verifying the context surrounding the letter, I tried to square chronology.

The letter says effective immediately and gives a time stamp at 12 IN THE AFTERNOON DUBAI TIME.

The flight WAS DIVERTED 6 HOURS EARLIER HAVING BEEN TURNED BACK BY 7 IN THE MORNING DUBAI TIME. THE TIME IT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE ARRIVED IN HARGEISA.

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Clearly, "pilots, etc heard announcement" aboard flight and "didn't want to be stuck" is impossible unless they time traveled.
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Re: FlyDubai forced to turn around from Hargeisa by Somalia Gov

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LeJusticier wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:07 pm Its fake news created by some Landers for their own propaganda advantage.

Voltage we know xitaa hadaad OXYGEN noo haysaan inaad naga xidhi lahaydeen. Ilaahay nama kiin bado.
Rightwing, xamaasada iska yareey sxb. I object to your allusion to cadaawad. This topic is literally an extension of my critical look at UAE.

It's really not even about Somaliland per se.
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Re: FlyDubai forced to turn around from Hargeisa by Somalia Gov

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Sagaashan wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:02 pm This is why i am little bit reserved about celebrating too early what people write. Imagine the embarrassment and disgust on the faces of the people that for two days stated no foreign airline can land on Somali territory but all of a sudden Ethiopian Airlines lands in Hargeysa tomorrow. Imagine the joy and exhilaration that the opposition (mainly the cash-for-sea AWW) and their media puppets (i can already see Abkow being the first to post the news and Sahal making a 2021 deal between Kheyre and Abiy) will derive from such news.

The other thing is the government never jumps ahead of the rumors and redirects to affirm its position and stances, although, for this particular one Omar was emphatic about the fact the ban was in effect nationwide.

It will be interesting under what pretext Ethiopian Airlines lands under such conditions, especially against the word of the minister. Do we all of a sudden have another Adan Duale scenerio in terms of airspace violation? is tripartite and regional integration movement over?
It's not a pissing contest. If I support Somalia in something and conversely it suffers a setback, embarrassment and even disappointment are really inappropriate descriptions to be observed. Incensed yes, outraged even possibly because I would be rooting for State formation but it doesn't mean I have to become embarrassed by a setback as if I caused it.
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Re: FlyDubai forced to turn around from Hargeisa by Somalia Gov

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Voltage wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:10 am
LeJusticier wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:07 pm Its fake news created by some Landers for their own propaganda advantage.

Voltage we know xitaa hadaad OXYGEN noo haysaan inaad naga xidhi lahaydeen. Ilaahay nama kiin bado.
Rightwing, xamaasada iska yareey sxb. I object to your allusion to cadaawad. This topic is literally an extension of my critical look at UAE.

It's really not even about Somaliland per se.
Sxb now I am in the Airport collecting family members from Ethiopian Airlines. As I said before hadaad OXYGEN noo haysaan inaad naga xidhi lahaydeen. Each approach you guys make towards us wuxuun bay sii kala fogeysaa.
Besides, this fake news is originated within Isaaqs.
https://www.flydubai.com/en/contact/operational-updates
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Re: FlyDubai forced to turn around from Hargeisa by Somalia Gov

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Sagaashan wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:02 pm This is why i am little bit reserved about celebrating too early what people write. Imagine the embarrassment and disgust on the faces of the people that for two days stated no foreign airline can land on Somali territory but all of a sudden Ethiopian Airlines lands in Hargeysa tomorrow. Imagine the joy and exhilaration that the opposition (mainly the cash-for-sea AWW) and their media puppets (i can already see Abkow being the first to post the news and Sahal making a 2021 deal between Kheyre and Abiy) will derive from such news.

The other thing is the government never jumps ahead of the rumors and redirects to affirm its position and stances, although, for this particular one Omar was emphatic about the fact the ban was in effect nationwide.

It will be interesting under what pretext Ethiopian Airlines lands under such conditions, especially against the word of the minister. Do we all of a sudden have another Adan Duale scenerio in terms of airspace violation? is tripartite and regional integration movement over?
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Insightful.
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Re: FlyDubai forced to turn around from Hargeisa by Somalia Gov

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Rightwing-

Wrong.

1. This is not personal, stop making this an an issue about feelings.

2. You are wrong on the Dubai flight and you are wrong on this Ethiopia flight.
  1. FlyDubai
    • The people who told you "people from Somaliland started this" are the fake news themselves.
    • The flight was turned back 6 hours before the Dubai statement attributed to it.
      • That means your side's excuse is FALSE.
        • Moreover, the day it took place was early am on the 19th, the day Somalia's ban was to start.
        • You need to understand the only one under fake news is you my friend
  2. Ethiopian Airlines
    • You are also wrong about this flight. Also it's odd you are at the airport half a day earlier before your family had even departed. (Little joke)
    • It seems the Somalia government had given a 2 day grace period ONLY for Somali people stranded in other locations which allowed this to happen.
      • Moreover a flight tracker shows it was held over Harar for close to an hour before entering Somali airspace. This was intended to verify passengers and reconcile manifests.
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We will see what happens after the 2 day grace period is over.

It seems this has to do with the FlyDubai incident where people became stranded in Dubai. My guess is this might be a development from Muuse Biixi and initiating contact with Farmaajo.
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Re: FlyDubai forced to turn around from Hargeisa by Somalia Gov

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Ethiopian airways has landed so I wonder how NN trolls will spin this one
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Re: FlyDubai forced to turn around from Hargeisa by Somalia Gov

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Voltage wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:26 am

We will see what happens after the 2 day grace period is over.

It seems this has to do with the FlyDubai incident where people became stranded in Dubai. My guess is this might be a development from Muuse Biixi and initiating contact with Farmaajo.

I said let’s wait how abodoons tried to spin it and this is what they came up with :damn: :russ:


Sxb don’t you feel embarrassed being wrong all the time?
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