Ethiopian boder war HG the defeated Jebertis Ethiopian Galgaduud border

[wadnahadhiiga]

MX JEBERTIS attach Saleebaan reer Xirsi and they been wiped and lost lands in Ethiopian border now they are calaacal

[PrinceNugaalHawd]

The place is between Dhabad & Cadado not the border, There is clan skirmishes. We will learn more information, but the subclan of Wagardhac involved & Wagardhac in general don’t give up easily.

[FarhanYare]

A guy from lascanood knows so much about this conflict

[AbdiWahab252]

A guy from lascanood knows so much about this conflict

He would know. They are mercenaries who fight for a bundle of marduuf and a bowl of rice with little bits of meat. The only qabiil that fights each other on behalf of 4 clients: SL,PL,KH and the FG.

In the PL vs GM war of 2015 the Kashmiris made up 20% of the PL POwS held by GM. They surrendered after hearing the food was better and more plentyful in GM. But you can’t con Iljeex to fatten up TB stricken stockmen from Sool and who didn’t want to waste money on rice and meat. GM instead fed them cambuulo day and night. The Kashmiris POWS callee their mates and told them not to fight as the punishment wasn’t worth it

[Voltage]

Like I told you in your other topic Ciil-kama-karoow,

It seems like Wagardhac have been steadily moving northeast back to their old territories again from Caabudwaaq district where they grouped together with other Marehan for defense in the civil war. In every fight they seem to get closer to the North-South highway which was the historic boundary between them and Habar Gidir. First Saaxo, Dacdheer, Kaxandhaale and now outside Gelinsoor.

Miskiin, it looks like I will really have to do that topic this time.

This is the 3rd time you exhausted my sympathies.

Kaartadii Caydiid iyo huwantii USC meeshay idin geysay and maanta meeshaad joogtiin waa in si cad laguu kala qeexo.

1. You took no land from Marehan except for the area around Galinsoor Wagardhac abandoned to crouch around Caabudwaaq for defense.

2. 90%of HG live on the border where the Darod (Marehan/Majerten/Layl Kase) live because there are TWO livelihood zones in central regions, Hawd and Coast.

3. THERE IS NOTHING TO SUSTAIN LIVELIHOOD IN 70% OF CENTRAL SOMALIA EAST OF THE DAROD BORDER UNTIL HOBYO O THE COAST.

3. HG lives where they live, crouching near the Hawd access, hungrily squeezing themselves near the Darod instead of having branched out in the central Somalia landscapes because of HISTORICAL WEAKNESS.

4. Because of the civil war, and again defensive reasons, HG geeljire found themselves finally accessing the hawd due to Wagardhac defensive strategy.

5. That's finished adeer. You were in KAXANDHAALE. Today the fight is in front of Cadaado and the misunderstood "Gelinsoor."

Marehan sxb; lost land alright, but not to YOU.

We lost it in the West to the boundary war between Italy and Ethiopia. We lost it in Wardheer, in Shilaabo, in Feerfeer, we lost it in KHELAAFO.

My own father sxb is REER DIINI, REER SIYAAD DIINi.You know what they call them? REER ABAAR UFULE. Abaar Ufule is outside KHELAAFO; west of Shilaabo.

No Sir, we didn't lose land to you my brother. We lost it in the WEST.

The lands on the EAST in central Somalia, we didn't lose those. We LEFT them. We MIGRATED from them 150 years ago and before.The people you hear today called REER GEDO.

The more EASTERN the Marehan was AWAY from the Hawd and towards the coast, the more they joined the MIGRATION to JUBBA.

They are the ones who lived in GIDEYS AND BAXDO AND LAMABULSO. Poorer land, less rainful, less grazing.

The Marehan who was more eastern and lived there (like REER CALI XUSSEIN) is now 100% reer Gedo.

The Marehan who was more Western and lived near Shilaabo (like REER SIYAAD XUSSEIN) are today still mostly reer "Caabudwaaq"

This was already complete a 100 years ago.

This is an official map from Italian Interior Ministry in 1935.



I will teach you real history like the time hebel baa yiri waxaas iyo hebel hebeloow aad la timaaday when were talking about Abdiqaasim/Salaadboy/Hagi Haashi stuff.

[PrinceNugaalHawd]

A guy from lascanood knows so much about this conflict

That’s what the news from Cadaado was saying

[PrinceNugaalHawd]

A guy from lascanood knows so much about this conflict

He would know. They are mercenaries who fight for a bundle of marduuf and a bowl of rice with little bits of meat. The only qabiil that fights each other on behalf of 4 clients: SL,PL,KH and the FG.

In the PL vs GM war of 2015 the Kashmiris made up 20% of the PL POwS held by GM. They surrendered after hearing the food was better and more plentyful in GM. But you can’t con Iljeex to fatten up TB stricken stockmen from Sool and who didn’t want to waste money on rice and meat. GM instead fed them cambuulo day and night. The Kashmiris POWS callee their mates and told them not to fight as the punishment wasn’t worth it

I guess those Dhulos must be dead cause we are not Horses or Dameer we don’t eat Cambuulo!

You have been dying the last 30 years in every conflict in the south for Drugs & Qaad you are about to go extinct! what is left of your whole clan is Missing a leg, both legs, an arm an eye or is severely wounded, you are basically the mercenaries of the south for few mardufs & drugs.

[AbdiWahab252]

A guy from lascanood knows so much about this conflict

He would know. They are mercenaries who fight for a bundle of marduuf and a bowl of rice with little bits of meat. The only qabiil that fights each other on behalf of 4 clients: SL,PL,KH and the FG.

In the PL vs GM war of 2015 the Kashmiris made up 20% of the PL POwS held by GM. They surrendered after hearing the food was better and more plentyful in GM. But you can’t con Iljeex to fatten up TB stricken stockmen from Sool and who didn’t want to waste money on rice and meat. GM instead fed them cambuulo day and night. The Kashmiris POWS callee their mates and told them not to fight as the punishment wasn’t worth it

I guess those Dhulos must be dead cause we are not Horses or Dameer we don’t eat Cambuulo!

You have been dying the last 30 years in every conflict in the south for Drugs & Qaad you are about to go extinct! what is left of your whole clan is Missing a leg, both legs, an arm an eye or is severely wounded, you are basically the mercenaries of the south for few mardufs & drugs.

In the midst of the Kashmiri mercenaries fighting for PL, their Khatumo President Ali Khalif supported GM and stated that any Kashmiri mercenary who got killed or wounded should be dealt with severely as they are also enemies of Khatumo.

Poor Kashmiris always fighting someone else’s war for 2 centuries.

[PrinceNugaalHawd]

He would know. They are mercenaries who fight for a bundle of marduuf and a bowl of rice with little bits of meat. The only qabiil that fights each other on behalf of 4 clients: SL,PL,KH and the FG.

In the PL vs GM war of 2015 the Kashmiris made up 20% of the PL POwS held by GM. They surrendered after hearing the food was better and more plentyful in GM. But you can’t con Iljeex to fatten up TB stricken stockmen from Sool and who didn’t want to waste money on rice and meat. GM instead fed them cambuulo day and night. The Kashmiris POWS callee their mates and told them not to fight as the punishment wasn’t worth it

I guess those Dhulos must be dead cause we are not Horses or Dameer we don’t eat Cambuulo!

You have been dying the last 30 years in every conflict in the south for Drugs & Qaad you are about to go extinct! what is left of your whole clan is Missing a leg, both legs, an arm an eye or is severely wounded, you are basically the mercenaries of the south for few mardufs & drugs.

In the midst of the Kashmiri mercenaries fighting for PL, their Khatumo President Ali Khalif supported GM and stated that any Kashmiri mercenary who got killed or wounded should be dealt with severely as they are also enemies of Khatumo.

Poor Kashmiris always fighting someone else’s war for 2 centuries.

Lol are you not the same man Ina Keenadiid kuso dul dagaay & became foot soldiers for? Marexaan baa idi ku filaan sxb. The same ppl that are Ximan Xeeb, Pirates, Galmudug, Ahlu sunah, Alshabab, FG?

Xabada Ina keenadiid iyo Marexaan nimanka moodaay Dhuuso

When we came to your territory 120 yrs ago & took your camels, Geela Hobyo Laaga Keen baa loo bixiyaay.

[Caytame]

Lose or no lose, wagardhac at least fight, and fall where they fall short. There's no shame in losing territories, but it's important that you fight for what's yours until it's inconsequential what you do, you still lose, which wagardhac have done. They lost gelinsoor and kaxandhaale to sacad few years back, and now this. They still deserve respect, as opposed to reer cabudwaaq who fled as the first bullets were discharged, and all their cities and towns in central Somalia falling in the hands of HG, and moving to garboharay and baardheere.

As for HG, they need to stop. They can't have all of galgaduud, they need to learn to be content with what they have.

[Voltage]

Lose or no lose, wagardhac at least fight, and fall where they fall short. There's no shame in losing territories, but it's important that you fight for what's yours until it's inconsequential what you do, you still lose, which wagardhac have done. They lost gelinsoor and kaxandhaale to sacad few years back, and now this. They still deserve respect, as opposed to reer cabudwaaq who fled as the first bullets were discharged, and all their cities and towns in central Somalia falling in the hands of HG, and moving to garboharay and baardheere.

As for HG, they need to stop. They can't have all of galgaduud, they need to learn to be content with what they have.

I didn't even see the point Biiqaaye to bring it up those other times but you are not even aware that "Kaxandhaale"is now an official district of Wagardhac effectively closing the border permanently once again.

It the is the the most recent deegaan recognized by the Ethiopian government making Wagardhac, the second Marehan clan, after reer Hassan took Deka-Suftu back from Degoodiye in Liban.

You don't even understand in your ignorance fueled by bitterness what the sort of "geopolitical" aim of all this was.

Adeer, between Goldagob and Caabudwaaq, HG accessed a breach in a defensive face to face fight.

You stuck your leg through the breach, but,the geopolitical aim of the fight Wagardhac started in 2013 literally didn't even push your leg back, they just cut the leg and closed the breach.

People think GELINSOOR is JUST a "town."

That town today, had 5 cariish and maybe one dhoobo house with those shared as a Somali locality.

That's not historic "GELINSOOR."

GELINSOOR IS A REGION for a particular grazing specialty.

It includes everything from GALAADI TO THE PRESENT NAMED TOWN.

The "Wagardhac/Marehan" portion of Gelinsoor was the area WEST of the Tomaselli Line (Darod/Hawiye line which became the ROAD) or about 90% of the grazing kans.

When Wagardhac got up and declared SAAXO right across from Bandiiradlay/Sedex Xiglo right under Gaalkacyo on the Western side of the border----

They basically declared the perimeter.

It meant FROM GOLDAGOB TO CAABUDWAAQ, THE HG BREACH OF THE ROAD WAS DONE; THE LEG WOULD BE CUT OFF.

In the center of that declated perimeter is GELINSOOR.

When Wagardhac begin the fights in Dacdheer, Kaxandhaale and All of the HG that used to graze there were forced as refugees to run back across the ROAD to Gelinsoor town---

--WAGARDHAC WAS SAYING THE TOMASELLI LINE IS NOW ONCE AGAIN IN EFFECT.

KAXANDHAALE IS THE BIGGEST SETTLEMENT WEST OF THE ROAD.

BY DECLARING KAXANDHAALE, IT MEANS I HAVE THE GELINSOOR I REALLY LOST AND FOR THAT MATTER REALLY CARED ABOUT; NAMELY THE GRAZING LAND. IT EFFECTIVELY MEANS ANYONE CAUGHT WEST OF THE ROAD IN GELINSOOR IS DOING AT THEIR OWN RISK..

And these people think about Gelinsoor is a town is what it has always been about.

That's what GAXANDHAALE represented.

Have you ever seen Dahir Calasoow or any of these talk about Gaxandhaale anymore?

So please, do not embarrass yourself again by even bringing this up and you will be saving me the regret I will sure feel about taking stock of dil, dhimasho,and rafaad which was a result of the Wagardhac campaign to successfully cut the leg and repair the breach

Last November, KAXANDHAALO DECLARED AS THE NEWEST DEGMO OF ETHIOPIA, CLOSING THE BORDER PERMANENTLY AND WAGARDHAC TAKING BACK 90% OF HISTORIC GELINSOOR GRAZING REGION



WAGARDHAC CELEBRATES THE EFFECTIVE DEFEAT OF USC LEGACY, THE BOUNDARY IS NOW WHAT IT WAS IN 1989



THE EFFECT OF THOSE WAS UNFORTUNATE IN THIS MANNER, BUT RELEVANT TO THE DISCOURSE---HERE ARE THE HG HAVE BEEN EXPELLED FROM AT LEAST HALF DOZEN LOCALTIES.

AT 1:30 THE LADY SAYS NOT ONLY DID THEY UPROOT US FROM KAXANDHAALE AND DACDHEER, BUT THEY MADE SURE THAT WE LEFT EVERYTHING WEST OF GELINSOOR TOWN ON THE ROAD

[wadnahadhiiga]

Today is boder of Ethiopia kkk Cabudwaaq is not in Somalia they been pushed out of Somalia last 70 years kkk if you go 35 km west of Cadaado you are in Ethiopia kkk

HG Saleebaan concurred iidoole 30 km east of Cadaado 60 years ago and now it's in the heart of HG Saleebaan land kkkk



Come and see your grandfather as a guest kkk

[dalalos101]

Today is boder of Ethiopia kkk Cabudwaaq is not in Somalia they been pushed out of Somalia last 70 years kkk if you go 35 km west of Cadaado you are in Ethiopia kkk

HG Saleebaan concurred iidoole 30 km east of Cadaado 60 years ago and now it's in the heart of HG Saleebaan land kkkk



Come and see your grandfather as a guest kkk

Ugaas diini turning in his grave

He is 160-200 years old though

[theyuusuf143]

There must be 2 rounds. Who ever wins today should loose tomorrow. No need for Victors. The game is over if there is a winner !

[theyuusuf143]

There must be 2 rounds. Who ever wins today should loose tomorrow. No need for Victors. The game is over if there is a winner !