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Sahal, come in abti. Qur'aan baan ku saarahayaa

Post by Voltage »

Sahal,

This is how you look my friend.

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Everyone here is Xaasid, especially our Hawiye brothers. I don't know if anyone has spoken privately with you, but I have always felt more motivated to provide positive critique to my tol than negative critique to the opposing side.

Sahal waad wareertay abti. :)

6 or 7 months ago, December or November I told you exactly what would happen with the election and we are literally on the 75% percentile now.

Forget even rehashing the whole election bill debate, which you quitely dropped, when the bill in Parliament turned out to be 100% exactly what I said would happen---not because I am a genius, but it is literally what everyone saw would happen if theyfollowed Somalia and weren't emotionally desperate like some in the opposition.

Forget the bill and the past, do you know what I said would be the END PROCESS after all this is finished?
They are playing hardball sxb.

Do you think the UN or EU or US don't know what circumstances need to be in place for universal suffrage (1man/vote)?

How can you have that when entire regions and towns and areas of the country are directly administered physically by Shabaab? How can you have that when you don't even have an accurate census to know who is eligible?

They know 1man/1vote is virtually impossible, but getting to that now is NOT their intention.

This is explained by what Somalis term "ku qabso ka qaadi mayside."

The rest of the word understands it as the point in negotiation where CLARIFICATION happens before BARGAINING.

In CLARIFICATION, for example the store owner will say he is selling the rug for $500 while you as the customer respond with $350.

The sides will always attempt to provide JUSTIFICATION for their clarification (store owner says this rug is hand made from Persia, you say well I have bought a similar one from your competitor for 350)

Now the owner doesn't really expect to get that high sale and you don't really expect that low discount, but you have CLARIFIED the boundaries to bargain (i.e. meeshaad kasoo degi kartiin).

Parliament knows what the mandate is.

Through the long sub-committee process and the very public leaks, Parliamentarians have been "clarifying" what they want to test the level of challenge. ( No 1man/1vote)

The UN/Donors have responded with their own clarification (full 1man/1vote)

Xoogagag wadaniyiinta/misinformation is the justification provided by Parliamentarians and "hebel baan aragnay/la tashanay" is the justification by UN.

Now that they have both clarified and justified their clarification, they will bargain or "compromise."

Like I said to Sahal;

8. In the end, there will be a compromise that provides "CONTINUITY" of progress in State Formation.

9. Mark my words; the compromise from UN/Donors will be they will accept universal 1man/vote cannot be done now in exchange for something that is more universal and competitive than 2016 elections.


10. I will WAGER an arm and a leg that what they have been demonizing as "Farmaajo's xogaga wadaniyiinta system" aka more universal participation will in the end be what most resembles the final election compromise.
If you would like the link to the topic, here it is to fascinate you about how much you misunderstood about this fake election bruhaha.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=398449

I call the whole thing fake, because they all know how this will end. People are just jockeying for attention and desperation.

I would even wager HALIMA YAREEY herself was tapped on the shoulder to PROVIDE PRESSURE on the opposition to quite playing and engage the process.

aFinally, stop being the blind running into the wall.

Back when you were cheering for extension that was supposedly to be for Prime Minister and Parliament, but not President---this was our osition then, our position now, and our position tomorrow.

Ironically my first response to you on this Election issue back in November is still the absolute defining truth on all of this
Voltage wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:37 am I think it is time for a lesson on causation vs. correlation

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We know what is going to happen.

1. There will NOT be 1 man/1 vote.
2. There will NOT be extension for any ELECTED government entities; whether Parliament or Pres (PM is selected by Pres so irrelevant to this)

NEITHER of those things will happen for the same reasons it did not happen the last two times;

1. Somalia's situation does not allow for 1 man/1 vote (for goodnessake they do NOT even have the resources or operation to do a census----how can you do 1man/1man if you DON'T even know how many people to expect?).

2. Somalia's situation does not allow for any extension of ELECTED government entities (by law extension can ONLY occur if Election Commission asks for 2 month and then a 4 month technical extension----there is NO LEGAL PATHWAY for government entities to get an extension).
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Re: Sahal, come in abti. Qur'aan baan ku saarahayaa

Post by sahal80 »

welcome Snet from the hospital
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i really dont get your point you wanna tell me now all this was pressure on the opposition after Farmaajo lost the battle BUT anyways was not you the guy who was saying he will get extension by force? Hawiyana waa la laqsiin claiming other mans battles? history has proven the boss himself was Hawiye aka Kheyre who told the guest Farmaajo I SAID NO :russ:

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Mental break down iga dheh.

Farmaajo 1 day xitaa kuma darsan karo.
wallahi billahi oo tollahi wuu ku darsanyaa, ina CABDULLANI MAXAMED SHIIL isagoo madaxwayne ah JUST ONE MONTH

waa ninkii Hawiye dhexdiisa Cabdirahman Cabdishakuur ku duulay labadii waxmagaratana ku yiri car XAMAR KA DUULA OI ceeb KIKUYO UU NIIKIYA

WAA LAGU LAQSIIN WALLAH

MAREEXAANKA UGU MISKIIN UGUNA MACQUULSAN WAA ISLA MAREEXAAN

1000 YEARS NIMAN WARAN ISHA KAAGA TUURAYO DHIIGOODA IN THEIR DNA SEQUENCE DHEX TAAL

ABDIRAHMAN ISSUE WASN'T ISOLATED. NIN MAREEXAAN GACAN KU TAAGAY OO LAGA GOYN MAJIRTO

WALLAHI WAA LAGU LAQSIIN

KU LAHAA XATAA MEESHAAS BAA LA AADI, MA LAYSKA AADAA SHIDAAD LADANE INA CALAQ CUNE


This is the CCSH you was claiming to have attacked him when it was Kheyre and was the reason why he removed thabit who was against it and reached out to odayaasha. him and kheyre r now on the same page while the deserted Farmaajo is not willing to do this. kheyre attacked ccsh bc of UAE funded motion against him that shakur was responsible for orgonazing it but the mony was going to omar abdi rashid. kheyre doesnt entertain when it comes to his position he removed jawaare as well after meeting dam jadiid in Turkey. hada markuu dantiisa ka gaarey mooge oo damaystey his 4 years he ditched him!! what a sawir!


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Re: Sahal, come in abti. Qur'aan baan ku saarahayaa

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Shut up
Sahal is better than you, you support Farmajo because of Qabiil and once he is gone you would oppose whoever in charge, check your consciousness
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Re: Sahal, come in abti. Qur'aan baan ku saarahayaa

Post by Voltage »

Sahal,

That response was not about the election. It was a tribal fadhi ku dirir response to your tribal fadhi ku dirir attacks. Waa lagu laqsiin was used in the same way I used "inan gumeed" in that topic. Similarly, and understandably, you interpreted that word as if I was speaking about the despicable caste system to which I am immediately corrected you and said I meant nothing but personal dhaqanxumo.[p.s. I should mention that I have decided to permanently disavow use of that word because of that misunderstanding.]

With regards to what brought the "waa lagu laqsiin" -----Coronivirus possibility.

I do not want or think of that possibility. I explained that jn that top, but we can't rule it out.This is where we get into whether an extension is a DEFERRAL OR POSTPONEMEN.

1. Postponement is =/= Deferral

Understand the difference sxb.


2. Deferral = YOU ASK FOR TIME....exmp: A student can't finish his project the day before and emails the teacher for more time.

Student asked teacher = Deferral

3. Postponement = YOU ARE BEING DELAYED... exmp. A teacher falls and breaks her hip so emails the students she is sorry but presentation day will have to be next week.

The teacher delays students =a POSTPONEMENT

4. It's totally different sxb.

Almost all of what we had talked about was a Defereal and THERE IS 0 CHANCE AND TBERE SHOULD BE 0 CHANCE.
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