Farmaajo will be the first Somali leader in history to be reelected democratically.

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Farmaajo will be the first Somali leader in history to be reelected democratically.

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Pending any extraordinary turn of events, you can take this to the bank.

Ethiopia and Eritrea will also be fighting tooth and nail to keep in place the continuity of stability with Farmaajo---among other things, in order to not be distracted from the complete attention they need to devote to the Tigray question.

Deni has already been told directly by Abiye; Ethiopia will devote all of its influence in Somalia to Farmaajo's reelection.

Kenya also now understands the status quo has changed. Ethiopia is no longer a more passive observer and Farmaajo is the region's sole candidate.

This means the calculus Kenya was going by----couple more months of Farmaajo presidency---is no longer the guiding principle.

The sending of Macharia Kamau, the brains in the Kenyan Foreign Ministry and former Kenyan Ambassador to UN, to Mogadishu represents the first signs Kenya is completely revamping its foreign policy towards Somalia with the expectation of Farmaajo'a reelection.

I guarantee you the most predictable outcome of this development is the final discarding of Ahmed Madoobe by Kenya.

As we speak, Rooble and the current Cabinet are planning and governing as a long-term goverment. In fact, the entire process of even naming a new Cabinet in an election is a reflection of the fact, Farmaajo reelection is already a regional expectation and support for it is a consensus.
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The fact that Farmaajo, despite having had a distinctly underwhelming four-year presidential record, is still not only eyeing, but does actually stand good a chance as any to win, speaks volumes of the Skinny nation's apparent inability to field a pool of qualified Faaraxs/Xaliimos politicians.
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When is madoobe getting thrown then. What's your estimation time? And who do you think he will be replaced with
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I can confirm Voltage's information with my own sources. He's right about the Deni bit. That's why he ran to the UAE after he was told LMAO
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barbarossa wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:47 am The fact that Farmaajo, despite having had a distinctly underwhelming four-year presidential record, is still not only eyeing, but does actually stand good a chance as any to win, speaks volumes of the Skinny nation's apparent inability to field a pool of qualified Faaraxs/Xaliimos politicians.
The most ironic thing about your statement is;

UNDERWHELMING

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STABILITY

and what is being prized is

CONTINUITY OF STABILITY

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IS WHY FARMAAJO IS BEING CHAMPIONED BY THE REGION


These people value "overwhelming, exciting, eventful"---

---which is code for 6 month term PM and Cabinet and political gridlock and constant infighting!
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Mx denocracy ma yaqaanan. 8th february villada waa laga saari either willingly or by force. Under the meantime continue with faraadhuugta.
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AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:19 am Mx denocracy ma yaqaanan. 8th february villada waa laga saari either willingly or by force. Under the meantime continue with faraadhuugta.
So democracy is using force to kick out a president who was chosen? :Heh: War democracy isn't a rotation thing, it's whoever wins.
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Voltage can you honestly rule out the possibility of the national opposition (HAG) forcibly removing Farmajo out of office after Farmajo is declared the winner regardless of whether the Madasha has any legitimacy in overthrowing Farmajo

I have a real belief that the FNP Madasha would use arms to topple Farmajo should he be declared the winner....the international community, AMISOM and neighbouring countries will not intervene to save him should this scenario happen
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Farmaajo brought stability and capable leadership to Somalia that hasn't been seen in decades. Our allies around the world have also indicated that this administration should have a continuation due to its competency.

However on the other hand, the enemies of Somalia would rather have someone they can control rather than someone with a vision.

There is no other leader I would bet on getting a second term, other than Farmaajo.
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Wallahi it would be an amazing feat as Somalis hate old faces, it will be very interesting if re elected! There is no other viable opposition that can replace him.
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Sbashi wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:31 am
AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:19 am Mx denocracy ma yaqaanan. 8th february villada waa laga saari either willingly or by force. Under the meantime continue with faraadhuugta.
So democracy is using force to kick out a president who was chosen? :Heh: War democracy isn't a rotation thing, it's whoever wins.
Look how JL, GM, SW n soon Hirshabelle. Look how those elections went. That's what farmaajo wants but blood will be shed.
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AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:48 am
Sbashi wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:31 am
AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:19 am Mx denocracy ma yaqaanan. 8th february villada waa laga saari either willingly or by force. Under the meantime continue with faraadhuugta.
So democracy is using force to kick out a president who was chosen? :Heh: War democracy isn't a rotation thing, it's whoever wins.
Look how JL, GM, SW n soon Hirshabelle. Look how those elections went. That's what farmaajo wants but blood will be shed.

JL is different from the other fed states you mentioned because it has a source of income outside of the FGS and has the full backing of Kenya as a buffer state. The election there was a madoobe coronation.

Galmudug had a election that went without a hitch and is more stable than it was in the last 30 years.

SWS has a President that has also kept that region very peaceful and brought good mashruucs for that areas as well as getting training from UK for their troops. The only incident that occurred there is armed insurgents allied to Roboow fighting against the AMISOM there.

As for Hirshabelle you should hope for a smooth presidential election, the opening remarks of the candidates ended earlier. Tomorrow will be important.

Farmaajo doesn't want any bloodshed to occur and is probably the one president that has opted to not use heavy handed tactics on many occasions where it would be appropriate. If any destabilizing actors try and cause bloodshed they will receive their due recompense since we can't afford any more setbacks.
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Tbh I can’t imagine Farmaajo loosing to Shariif or Culusow. I just don’t see it, but I’ll own it if I’m wrong.
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I'm very confident that Mooge aka Farmajo will, by the ballot or the bullet, be ousted from the presidency by April 2021 at the latest
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AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:48 am
Sbashi wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:31 am
AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:19 am Mx denocracy ma yaqaanan. 8th february villada waa laga saari either willingly or by force. Under the meantime continue with faraadhuugta.
So democracy is using force to kick out a president who was chosen? :Heh: War democracy isn't a rotation thing, it's whoever wins.
Look how JL, GM, SW n soon Hirshabelle. Look how those elections went. That's what farmaajo wants but blood will be shed.
So is this your way of acknowledging Farmaajo's track record of success instituting real federalism and breaking the back of autonomy? :mrgreen:

Or maybe it is your way of admitting you were wrong about Hirshabelle all along and in fact the likely outcome is what I predicted last February? :D
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