ICJ will announce Kenya _ Somalia maritme dispute verdict 12 Oktobar 2021

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Goorta lagu dhawaaqayo xukunka kiiska badda Soomaaliya iyo Kenya oo la shaaciyey

By Guuleed Muuse 

September 20, 2021

 

in Warar

Muqdisho (Caasimada Online) – Xukunka dacwada muranka Badda ee Soomaaliya iyo Kenya ayaa waxay si rasmi ah Maxkamadda Cadaaladda Adduunka ee ICJ ugu dhawaaqi doontaa 12-ka October ee 2021-ka, sida uu sheegay ra’iisul wasaare ku-xigeenka Soomaaliya Mahdi Maxamed Guuleed.

“Alxamdulillaah, Waxaa farxad ii ah in aan Ummadda Soomaaliyeed la wadaago in Maxkamadda Cadaaladda Adduunka ay xukunka dacwaddii Badda ee Soomaaliya iyo Kenya soo saari doonto 12ka Oktober, 2021,” ayuu Mahdi Guuleed ku yiri qoraal uu soo dhigay twitter-ka.

Kiiska muranka baddeena ayaa dhowr jeer dib loo dhigay dhageysigeeda, ayada oo markii dambe ay maxkamadda dhageysigiisa guda gashay, ayada oo ka maqan tahay Kenya, oo la fahamsan-yahay in sheegashadeeda ay tahay mid aan sharci ku dhisneyn.

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[paperino]

Looking forward to the verdict. Between now and then, I expect Kenya & its allies to engineer a coup that ousts Farmaajo, but fortunately Turkey has the capabilities to foil it.

[paperino]

D-day is approaching. Confused Kenya is between trying to delay the verdict, refusing it, asking a number of countries to convince Somalia to settle out of court, etc. If the verdict is in favor of Somalia, I expect political capital for Farmaajo, and MM/badbaado becoming irrelevant & toothless.

[mahor]

It's official, they've refused to accept the verdict of the icj decision that will happen next week.
That means the best case scenario for Somali gov is a settlement through talks since Somalia doesnt have the military strength to repel kenya or to control these waters.

[paperino]

It's official, they've refused to accept the verdict of the icj decision that will happen next week.
That means the best case scenario for Somali gov is a settlement through talks since Somalia doesnt have the military strength to repel kenya or to control these waters.

No, you're wrong; it isn't 'best case scenario.' For Kenya, refusing the verdict would be tantamount to being convicted of felony; which would have irreparable damage to its future. Kenya has 'pride', and under no circumstance would it comply with the verdict even if it's in its best interests.

[Nomand]

It's official, they've refused to accept the verdict of the icj decision that will happen next week.
That means the best case scenario for Somali gov is a settlement through talks since Somalia doesnt have the military strength to repel kenya or to control these waters.

what military you talking about? you think Kenya can do anything if for example Somalia agrees with a big multinational company like shell? or BP? to do the drilling and extraction.

Kenya is a powerful country when compared to somalia but however in comparison to big oil companies, Kenya is a 3rd world shithole with 0 actual influence. don't let their so called "power" fool you. even now they rely on EU funding to stay inside somalia.

anyone that thinks Kenya can actually threaten and stop Somalia auctioning those oil blocks is deluding themselves. There be zero sharing with Kenya.

[mahor]

It's official, they've refused to accept the verdict of the icj decision that will happen next week.
That means the best case scenario for Somali gov is a settlement through talks since Somalia doesnt have the military strength to repel kenya or to control these waters.

what military you talking about? you think Kenya can do anything if for example Somalia agrees with a big multinational company like shell? or BP? to do the drilling and extraction.

Kenya is a powerful country when compared to somalia but however in comparison to big oil companies, Kenya is a 3rd world shithole with 0 actual influence. don't let their so called "power" fool you. even now they rely on EU funding to stay inside somalia.

anyone that thinks Kenya can actually threaten and stop Somalia auctioning those oil blocks is deluding themselves. There be zero sharing with Kenya.

The big oil companies wouldnt drill in a place on behalf of somalia in an area that is considered disputed. This decision is only favourable in the sense that no country will drill on behalf of kenya, but at the end somalia's advantage is only on paper.

[mahor]

It's official, they've refused to accept the verdict of the icj decision that will happen next week.
That means the best case scenario for Somali gov is a settlement through talks since Somalia doesnt have the military strength to repel kenya or to control these waters.

No, you're wrong; it isn't 'best case scenario.' For Kenya, refusing the verdict would be tantamount to being convicted of felony; which would have irreparable damage to its future. Kenya has 'pride', and under no circumstance would it comply with the verdict even if it's in its best interests.

what damage would it cause to its future? Ill take back the part about somalia needing to sit down with kenya, we can play the waiting game as somalia will have leverage in legal matters regarding sovereignty over these waters, however at the end of the day you either come to an mutually agreed settlement or use force .

[Nomand]

It's official, they've refused to accept the verdict of the icj decision that will happen next week.
That means the best case scenario for Somali gov is a settlement through talks since Somalia doesnt have the military strength to repel kenya or to control these waters.

what military you talking about? you think Kenya can do anything if for example Somalia agrees with a big multinational company like shell? or BP? to do the drilling and extraction.

Kenya is a powerful country when compared to somalia but however in comparison to big oil companies, Kenya is a 3rd world shithole with 0 actual influence. don't let their so called "power" fool you. even now they rely on EU funding to stay inside somalia.

anyone that thinks Kenya can actually threaten and stop Somalia auctioning those oil blocks is deluding themselves. There be zero sharing with Kenya.

The big oil companies wouldnt drill in a place on behalf of somalia in an area that is considered disputed. This decision is only favourable in the sense that no country will drill on behalf of kenya, but at the end somalia's advantage is only on paper.

That is what the international court is for. to legalize something that everyone already knew but would not touch. Now that Somalia has the judgement there is nothing kenya can do. Somalia will auction those fields. there are rules and laws this world follows otherwise what is stopping any country from claiming another countries territorial integrity.

it is very simple pre 12 October the sea was in dispute, post 12 October sea is undisputed. One party has won and has all legal power to do with it as they please. Big companies who are from countries that abide with the ICJ will respect ICJ decree. Even countries like China at that moment would rather deal of somalia then kenya.

no country or business will deal with kenya regarding the jubbaland coast.

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If Kenya fails to abide with the ICJ rulings, it will give us an excuse to, finally, put to use our formidable naval apparatus, which have long been sitting idle for want of deployment.

[paperino]

what damage would it cause to its future? Ill take back the part about somalia needing to sit down with kenya, we can play the waiting game as somalia will have leverage in legal matters regarding sovereignty over these waters, however at the end of the day you either come to an mutually agreed settlement or use force .

You're implying as if there weren't settlement attempts; there were. The reason Somalia took it to the ICJ is 'cause those attempts have failed, with Kenya failing to show up in the last meeting. If there's gonna be a 'mutually agreed settlement', it would be for Somalia to forget about the offshore. Kenya is wishing that Somalia forfeit for free potential tens/hundreds $billions, and that isn't gonna happen.

As for the damage to Kenya from the verdict; the dubious honor/title of being a country that breaks international laws, one that steals in broad daylight, one that doesn't care about consequences, one that doesn't honor obligations, a pariah state, etc. Who would do business with such a country? If Kenya tries to go ahead with offshore drilling, just remember that it's very easy to destroy something (compared to constructing it), and when that happens, the IC won't be on Kenya's side.

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It's official, they've refused to accept the verdict of the icj decision that will happen next week.
That means the best case scenario for Somali gov is a settlement through talks since Somalia doesnt have the military strength to repel kenya or to control these waters.

No, you're wrong; it isn't 'best case scenario.' For Kenya, refusing the verdict would be tantamount to being convicted of felony; which would have irreparable damage to its future. Kenya has 'pride', and under no circumstance would it comply with the verdict even if it's in its best interests.

When was Erhiopia convicted of Felony for staying in Gedo foe 30 years?