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Cali mareexan, a current minister (also held previous high level positions) has just exposed the SL project to the masses in a fit of emotions and anger while ‘responding’ to Somalia’s minister for internal affairs




Biixi and his gov worked closely with hsm to get rid of farmaajo

Ilameerayso meeshu weeyan

Nothing wrong with that it’s goood that somaliland gets involved and walaaqs walanweyns to our benefit. It’s wax la sugayey waiting is not good we need to meddle now I mean xassan Dameer is the lesser of the two evils remember failmaajo is darood marexaan a faqash remnant to the bones his hate for somaliland goes deep. Xassan Dameer is not a friend but he is not enemy either. Failmaajo is not friend but is an open enemy. Though Anigu wan walaanweynta aan kala jeclayn we need to inanu walaqno so this is a good policy from somaliland and Cali marexaan and great messiah muse biixi cabdi

Cali mareexan dhiiduu kaga xareeyey nimanka HG . Inta qodob EE uu cuskadayba waa runtiis. From ina igare marku Cali keenadiid Hobyo Ka saaray. Iyo marku Mujaahid cabdiraxman Tuur caydiiid tabaabulsheyey ba. Adeer kaagan mohoka lagu sheegayaw somaliland ma waxad u haysata muxajabad siilkeeda ilaashanaysa. Somaliland iyo isaaq ba waxa geeska Ka socda qayb bay Ka yihiin. Dagaal qabiil , Ku argagixiso iyo Ku siyaasaded ba xaqbanu u leenahay inaanu Ku lug darsano.

Khalid Ali wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 9:32 am Nothing wrong with that it’s goood that somaliland gets involved and walaaqs walanweyns to our benefit. It’s wax la sugayey waiting is not good we need to meddle now I mean xassan Dameer is the lesser of the two evils remember failmaajo is darood marexaan a faqash remnant to the bones his hate for somaliland goes deep. Xassan Dameer is not a friend but he is not enemy either. Failmaajo is not friend but is an open enemy. Though Anigu wan walaanweynta aan kala jeclayn we need to inanu walaqno so this is a good policy from somaliland and Cali marexaan and great messiah muse biixi cabdi

Sxb the monkey is saying we served hawiye everytime but hawiye don’t throw us a bone. Isaaq leaders are not working for the interest of beesha isaaq.

Hsm and biixi cooperation is the best example of this, hsm is a cheap whore who was brought by the west, at least futomaajo was working with xabashi to build closer ties to the chinks and Russians- this would’ve meant the west is forced to support us to counter china’s influence. Instead traitor biixi sucked hawiye ceeb and supported hsm due to corrupt collusion between isaaq and hawiye elites - now the US and its allies have less interest in us. This means our ‘leaders’ are not serving our strategic interests, these old garacs are our cadow.

At least darod is an open enemy while hawiye pretends to be a friend, to most of us young isaaq hawiye is the threat not darod since darod is powerless, to the isaaq middle aged people they still think about darod lol - you guys still believe in the irir fairy tales - funny how hawiye don’t believe in irir but isaaq does - it’s like when the British say we have special relations with the US but the Americans just laugh at this lol

At least tell the hawiye to be respectful if you are going to serve them like a slave lol.

theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 9:46 am Cali mareexan dhiiduu kaga xareeyey nimanka HG . Inta qodob EE uu cuskadayba waa runtiis. From ina igare marku Cali keenadiid Hobyo Ka saaray. Iyo marku Mujaahid cabdiraxman Tuur caydiiid tabaabulsheyey ba. Adeer kaagan mohoka lagu sheegayaw somaliland ma waxad u haysata muxajabad siilkeeda ilaashanaysa. Somaliland iyo isaaq ba waxa geeska Ka socda qayb bay Ka yihiin. Dagaal qabiil , Ku argagixiso iyo Ku siyaasaded ba xaqbanu u leenahay inaanu Ku lug darsano.

Adeer the man has humiliated us, imagine if I told you “this man is my friend but he stole from me 10 times before, should I trust him again and again?” You would laugh at me and say you must be retarded.

My point is that our current ruling class are simply faqash, they must be cleared out and exiled or executed. They serve hawiye interest not isaaq interest. Read my above comment to mr Khalid please

Hsm and co serve their community hawiye

Farmaajo and co serve their community darod


We don’t have politicians serving isaaq interest, isaaq is a rented out dhil0 - our current and long term costumer is hawiye

Khalid Ali wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 9:32 am Nothing wrong with that it’s goood that somaliland gets involved and walaaqs walanweyns to our benefit. It’s wax la sugayey waiting is not good we need to meddle now I mean xassan Dameer is the lesser of the two evils remember failmaajo is darood marexaan a faqash remnant to the bones his hate for somaliland goes deep. Xassan Dameer is not a friend but he is not enemy either. Failmaajo is not friend but is an open enemy. Though Anigu wan walaanweynta aan kala jeclayn we need to inanu walaqno so this is a good policy from somaliland and Cali marexaan and great messiah muse biixi cabdi

Didn’t Hutus just said to you weeks ago that you will not be independent. And weren’t you the one saying we should join putland instead of Hutus to create a country. You guys are weird.?I’m far from Daarod but atleast there is a reason they oppose to y’all triangle project unlike Hutus who just oppose for their benift. If you ask Daarod keep Sool and sanaag but let Somaliland go They’ll say yes in a heartbeat but not Hutus. Know what your saying

Let's separate politics and people. Do hawiye elites against somaliland independence , Yes

Do hawiye people hate isaaq. No. The problem between isaaq and hawiye is pure politics. Nothing personal.

Now let's talk about daarod, both their elites and their peasants dislike isaaq and any thing we are associated with. The problem between us and daarod. Is not just politics , it's very deeply clanish and it goes back to hundreds of years.

While we are culturally closer to the daarods. We trust hawiye over daarods. This is natural , Neighbours don't trust each an other.

I would rather lend my gun to habargidir than dhulbahante. But I would rather chill with dhulbahante than habargidir.

Any time hawiye plays Hard politics with us , we should do the same. No hard feelings. They have the upper hand in foreign politics and we have the upper hand in their internal politics. Thanks to the 4.5 , thanks to somaliweyn project, and thanks to Islam. All these things give us direct access to their asshole. Hawiye futo madoobe can cut ties with Guinea if they want , but we can cut their Lifespan short

theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:13 am Let's separate politics and people. Do hawiye elites against somaliland independence , Yes

Do hawiye people hate isaaq. No. The problem between isaaq and hawiye is pure politics. Nothing personal.

Now let's talk about daarod, both their elites and their peasants dislike isaaq and any thing we are associated with. The problem between us and daarod. Is not just politics , it's very deeply clanish and it goes back to hundreds of years.

While we are culturally closer to the daarods. We trust hawiye over daarods. This is natural , Neighbours don't trust each an other.

I would rather lend my gun to habargidir than dhulbahante. But I would rather chill with dhulbahante than habargidir.

If we work by your logic that still means Daarod people only care about SSC and have nothing personal with Idoors. Or in MX case for example want to rule all of Somalia with their dictatorship mindset. Everything has something to do with politics. If it weren’t for politics you wouldn’t leave Somalia either. But I don’t care about Darod or hawiye I’m just saying don’t be hypocritical and be blind to one. Even non Daarod and Hutu clans like US don’t want Somaliand to be independent for Varieties of reasons. The only people I believe actually don’t care if Somaliland goes or not is Daarod without SSC. US would be NO because we want all of Somalia and HUTUS No because the benefit from the status quo. You guys need to have an honest discussion with who your actual enemies are and who is playing dirty behind. Finally you need to develop a real identity. One day is DIR, 2nd is Arab and Third is IRIR.

Also you can’t have a natural fear of people but you can’t hate them in your heart and expect them to be living with you peacefully and enjoy your company. I hate Hutus and dislike Daarod but, I can’t say the next day I want to live in a country with them. Make it make sense. It’s like you secretly love Hutus and hate Daarod but want to live with Daarod and don’t believe in live with Hutus.

Isseayaanle wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:42 am

theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:13 am Let's separate politics and people. Do hawiye elites against somaliland independence , Yes

Do hawiye people hate isaaq. No. The problem between isaaq and hawiye is pure politics. Nothing personal.

Now let's talk about daarod, both their elites and their peasants dislike isaaq and any thing we are associated with. The problem between us and daarod. Is not just politics , it's very deeply clanish and it goes back to hundreds of years.

While we are culturally closer to the daarods. We trust hawiye over daarods. This is natural , Neighbours don't trust each an other.

I would rather lend my gun to habargidir than dhulbahante. But I would rather chill with dhulbahante than habargidir.

If we work by your logic that still means Daarod people only care about SSC and have nothing personal with Idoors. Or in MX case for example want to rule all of Somalia with their dictatorship mindset. Everything has something to do with politics. If it weren’t for politics you wouldn’t leave Somalia either. But I don’t care about Darod or hawiye I’m just saying don’t be hypocritical and be blind to one. Even non Daarod and Hutu clans like US don’t want Somaliand to be independent for Varieties of reasons. The only people I believe actually don’t care if Somaliland goes or not is Daarod without SSC. US would be NO because we want all of Somalia and HUTUS No because the benefit from the status quo. You guys need to have an honest discussion with who your actual enemies are and who is playing dirty behind. Finally you need to develop a real identity. One day is DIR, 2nd is Arab and Third is IRIR.

You repeatedly mention SSC like you own it. I don't recognize your claim. In contrast I demand you should give away parts of garowe to me although we prefer whole puntland to be administered from somaliland.

theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:54 am

Isseayaanle wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:42 am

theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:13 am Let's separate politics and people. Do hawiye elites against somaliland independence , Yes

Do hawiye people hate isaaq. No. The problem between isaaq and hawiye is pure politics. Nothing personal.

Now let's talk about daarod, both their elites and their peasants dislike isaaq and any thing we are associated with. The problem between us and daarod. Is not just politics , it's very deeply clanish and it goes back to hundreds of years.

While we are culturally closer to the daarods. We trust hawiye over daarods. This is natural , Neighbours don't trust each an other.

I would rather lend my gun to habargidir than dhulbahante. But I would rather chill with dhulbahante than habargidir.

If we work by your logic that still means Daarod people only care about SSC and have nothing personal with Idoors. Or in MX case for example want to rule all of Somalia with their dictatorship mindset. Everything has something to do with politics. If it weren’t for politics you wouldn’t leave Somalia either. But I don’t care about Darod or hawiye I’m just saying don’t be hypocritical and be blind to one. Even non Daarod and Hutu clans like US don’t want Somaliand to be independent for Varieties of reasons. The only people I believe actually don’t care if Somaliland goes or not is Daarod without SSC. US would be NO because we want all of Somalia and HUTUS No because the benefit from the status quo. You guys need to have an honest discussion with who your actual enemies are and who is playing dirty behind. Finally you need to develop a real identity. One day is DIR, 2nd is Arab and Third is IRIR.

You repeatedly mention SSC like you own it. I don't recognize your claim. In contrast I demand you should give away parts of garowe to me although we prefer whole puntland to be administered from somaliland.

I see you beat around the bush and cut my answer at the bottom and haven’t answerd anything. I’ve never seen anyone hate or dislike the same people they claim to want to live with or share a country with. Also, your relationship with Hutus is purely out of fear and I can’t beat my life savings you hate them more or distrust them more than Daarods. Again y’all need to study this subject more and work on your identity more.

Let's say. All Irir samaale don't have the same goals
And all daarods don't have the same goals. And that's the true reality. Don't be surprised that I can share a country with daarod,
I even share bed with them. Daarods are not happy with who ever they share something with. They hate hawiye, they hate Kikuyu, they hate amxara and they hate me too. Dhuuso geel mana urto mana baaqato. We get used to daarod frustration

Farmajo was a danger for a lot of somali elites in garowe, hargeisa and Mogadishu and the donors as well. In hindsight maybe that’s an indication of him being an honest leader and would have been good for the majority.

The only thing is he surrounded himselfs with crazy cbb and wanted to do too much to soon.

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MrSinister wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 12:18 pm Farmajo was a danger for a lot of somali elites in garowe, hargeisa and Mogadishu and the donors as well. In hindsight maybe that’s an indication of him being an honest leader and would have been good for the majority.

The only thing is he surrounded himselfs with crazy cbb and wanted to do too much to soon.

Problem with farmaajo was he was open with his tribalism, he acted like siyaad barre and created an era of tribalist misinformation by funding cbb troll factories pushing tribal agenda, not even the dumbest hawiye or isaaq leaders would do this openly, it’s a sign of immaturity at the highest level.

Now the reality has come out as most young people in Somaliland have known for a long while now, isaaq elites in SL are closely working together with xamar’s hawiye elites, this has been the case since 1960. The problem is while hawiye seem to benefit from this arrangement, isaaq does so to a much lesser extent- case is hawiye chose a darod after isaaq gave them their full support. To understand how this can happen, you got to understand isaaq culture, in our culture we are not allowed to question our fellow tribesmen, if for example a majeerten leader was to fuck over a majeerten clan, he would be killed or exiled, however if a habar awal politician was to fuck over habar awal political and economic interest, I wouldn’t even be allowed to question it, look at middle aged guys like Khalid and yusuf, they will find a way to justify everything, even when their own clan interest has been subverted to their enemy, it really makes me scratch my head