Do the Edoors have Dir DNA(the T haplogroup)?

[balwarama]

What is the breakdown of the DNA test results of the Edoors that have taken the test so far?

[Gubbet]

Are you Dir?

[balwarama]

Are you Dir?

No Im not but im curious why Edoors are suddenly claiming to be Dir while they never said so for 800 years!!
They always claimed that their so called ancestor came from Arabia and landed at Mayt.

[Ghiklo]

Technically, yes and no. They are genealogically related to Samaroons and Ciises but they are very distantly related to other Dir subclans like Surre. Of course, a large number of Isaaqs don't even have T in the first place but those people are technically not Isaaq.

[balwarama]

Technically, yes and no. They are genealogically related to Samaroons and Ciises but they are very distantly related to other Dir subclans like Surre. Of course, a large number of Isaaqs don't even have T in the first place but those people are technically not Isaaq.

What is the breakdown? Which ones have T and which ones dont? This is interesting as it may prove that they are confederation.

[theyuusuf143]

Balwarama you are the biggest victim of majeerteen and mareexaan politics. You really didn't need to be in this mess , so do we. to answer your question , yes it's scientifically proven that we share blood with Dir . And even those isaaqs who believed something else are no longer the dominant force among the isaaqs. We Isaaq dirs lead them like a bunch of sheep. Intay yaqaaneen way dhaaftay.

[theyuusuf143]

Technically, yes and no. They are genealogically related to Samaroons and Ciises but they are very distantly related to other Dir subclans like Surre. Of course, a large number of Isaaqs don't even have T in the first place but those people are technically not Isaaq.

That's why we are giving surre their own degmo in hargeisa. They bought huge land in hargeisa. And that will eventually turn into surre laboratory to identify all Dir species . Surre are the real leaders of Dir . The rest waa adhi damaan. They are like the nuclear scientists for Dir. Illeen hub qabiil iyo qabyaalad Ka weyn oo somalidu isu adeegsata ma jirtee. Surre iyo ilaahay xagiisa baanu Ka noolnahee nalama Arkeen . Nimankaas baa indhaha noo jeexay ilaahay khayr ha siiyee. I am proud student of surre university of Somali maryooley studies.

[Armo]

Technically, yes and no. They are genealogically related to Samaroons and Ciises but they are very distantly related to other Dir subclans like Surre. Of course, a large number of Isaaqs don't even have T in the first place but those people are technically not Isaaq.

Interesting, why are they not Isaaq? Could it not be that most umbrella clans are a confederation anyway?

[Ghiklo]

Technically, yes and no. They are genealogically related to Samaroons and Ciises but they are very distantly related to other Dir subclans like Surre. Of course, a large number of Isaaqs don't even have T in the first place but those people are technically not Isaaq.

That's why we are giving surre their own degmo in hargeisa. They bought huge land in hargeisa. And that will eventually turn into surre laboratory to identify all Dir species . Surre are the real leaders of Dir . The rest waa adhi damaan. They are like the nuclear scientists for Dir. Illeen hub qabiil iyo qabyaalad Ka weyn oo somalidu isu adeegsata ma jirtee. Surre iyo ilaahay xagiisa baanu Ka noolnahee nalama Arkeen . Nimankaas baa indhaha noo jeexay ilaahay khayr ha siiyee. I am proud student of surre university of Somali maryooley studies.

[Ghiklo]

Technically, yes and no. They are genealogically related to Samaroons and Ciises but they are very distantly related to other Dir subclans like Surre. Of course, a large number of Isaaqs don't even have T in the first place but those people are technically not Isaaq.

What is the breakdown? Which ones have T and which ones dont? This is interesting as it may prove that they are confederation.

HA = E-V32, HJ = T-L208, GX = T-L208, Sanbuur = E-M281, Arap = T-L208 OR E-M78/E-V22. Don't quote me on the results of smaller Isaaq subclans as they haven't been tested in bulk.

[Gubbet]

I strongly disapprove and caution against Ghiklo "method" of using science or genealogy. You are doing a disservice to science or anything to do with Somali relatedness.

Isaaq is a legitimately existing social unit within the Somali people and not even unique or stands out in how all other Somali units as social groups are constructed and this is reinforced by the science so far in these laymen genetic testing disclosures.

Stop walaal. Stop.

[theyuusuf143]

Berigaanu jabhada ahayn anagoo yaaban oo xitaa guutooyin kayaga qaar cali Binu Abu daalib u bixinay , si bal ilaahay noo miciino bay waxba noo socon waayeen. Guul waxa noogu horaysay markay biimaal iyo surre noo yimaaden. Yagaa na dhahay , wuxuush yahay miyeydaan ogayn inaad tol leedihiin, awal carab qoraxdu Ku dhacday baanu ismoodaynay. SNM tayadii intay S Ku darsadeen bay Irir na nagu xidheen. Hal Sano gudaheed baanu cadawga kusoo afjarnay.

[Ghiklo]

I strongly disapprove and caution against Ghiklo "method" of using science or genealogy. You are doing a disservice to science or anything to do with Somali relatedness.

Isaaq is a legitimately existing social unit within the Somali people and not even unique or stands out in how all other Somali units as social groups are constructed and this is reinforced by the science so far in these laymen genetic testing disclosures.

Stop walaal. Stop.

I know bro. I wasn't calling the Isaaq clan a confederacy, I was just commenting on the results of private individuals online. The Isaaq clan is real but you can't be Isaaq and carry subvariants of haplogroup E.

[Ghiklo]

Berigaanu jabhada ahayn anagoo yaaban oo xitaa guutooyin kayaga qaar cali Binu Abu daalib u bixinay , si bal ilaahay noo miciino bay waxba noo socon waayeen. Guul waxa noogu horaysay markay biimaal iyo surre noo yimaaden. Yagaa na dhahay , wuxuush yahay miyeydaan ogayn inaad tol leedihiin, awal carab qoraxdu Ku dhacday baanu ismoodaynay. SNM tayadii intay S Ku darsadeen bay Irir na nagu xidheen. Hal Sano gudaheed baanu cadawga kusoo afjarnay.

Ironically, this is not far from the truth. As the Dir clan you descend from are themselves descended from a real Arab male.

[balwarama]

Technically, yes and no. They are genealogically related to Samaroons and Ciises but they are very distantly related to other Dir subclans like Surre. Of course, a large number of Isaaqs don't even have T in the first place but those people are technically not Isaaq.

What is the breakdown? Which ones have T and which ones dont? This is interesting as it may prove that they are confederation.

HA = E-V32, HJ = T-L208, GX = T-L208, Sanbuur = E-M281, Arap = T-L208 OR E-M78/E-V22. Don't quote me on the results of smaller Isaaq subclans as they haven't been tested in bulk.

What does E-M281 stand for? Which group does it belong?