Consistent Observation: Everyone that hates "Siad Barre" and/or "Faqash" hates Majerten more viscerally

[Gubbet]

Wallahi this observation has never failed to present itself, but since the Lascaanood War, it is every where you look in Somali culture.

Halkaas waxaa iiga cad 2 things;

1. "Anti-Darood" as an ism is a foundational motivator and/or intrinsically underpins anti-Siyaad or Kacaan today in subjective memory and possibly even then.

2. Majerten is packaged into this ism and even is with such disproportionate historical negatives in public opinion relative to all other Darod that this overcomes the irony of their having been opposition to Siyaad/Kacaan.

Guled Wiliq is an example of this paradigm on Twitter, Gen Galaal's daughter Seynab is also an example of this on Facebook videos. Even in this forum Yusuf is an example of this.

Nin sokeeyahiisa KU fogaaday,
Sokeeyoo dhan waw KA fogaan!

[Gubbet]

[mahoka]

Wallahi this observation has never failed to present itself, but since the Lascaanood War, it is every where you look in Somali culture.

Halkaas waxaa iiga cad 2 things;

1. "Anti-Darood" as an ism is a foundational motivator and/or intrinsically underpins anti-Siyaad or Kacaan today in subjective memory and possibly even then.

2. Majerten is packaged into this ism and even is with such disproportionate historical negatives in public opinion relative to all other Darod that this overcomes the irony of their having been opposition to Siyaad/Kacaan.

Guled Wiliq is an example of this paradigm on Twitter, Gen Galaal's daughter Seynab is also an example of this on Facebook videos. Even in this forum Yusuf is an example of this.

Nin sokeeyahiisa KU fogaaday,
Sokeeyoo dhan waw KA fogaan!

This is like a Jew saying people hate Epstein due to antisemetism or that anti semetism is natural in European people. This is a viewpoint that no longer works, the bleeding hearts you had in your corner have smelled the coffee and stopped their associations.

Darod to this day (21 March 2023) prefer to live and settle in for example isaaq or hawiye population centres, in the summer every darod diaspora going back home will visit his settlement briefly before choosing to stay with these people in hargeisa, Mogadishu, burco, ceerigabo etc who you claim to hate you, it’s really interesting in this forum for example every single darod has been to/lived in hargeisa but none of the isaaq have been to lascanod/bosaso/caabudwaaq etc


I think Darod people need to give up their underhanded ways, this idea that “I should rule you but you can’t rule me, I should eat from your plate while I bring nothing to the lunch table” is not going to work any longer my friends. The reality of the situation in lascanood is that lascanood residents accepted huge sums of money from the donkeys in hargeisa hence agreeing to be part of their project, if lascanood said in 1991 and then in 2006/7 we are not interested in your project keep your money and fok off then we can tell the mafia in hargeisa to leave the darod alone. But after eating huge amounts of money now you can’t just be allowed to leave, biixi and his fellow ruling class will have their heads cut off by the locals. It’s like a prost1tute taking a payment and agreeing to give you 2 hours of fun but when you hand over the money, she decides to runaway. You will obviously slap her around and get your money back from her.


The truth is the ruling mafia in hargeisa have encouraged darod to act like this, this is to distract the sleeping isaaq masses so we can’t just blame darod on this.

Even the naago SNM in 1991 refused to settle the scores with darod via revenge, the hawiye weren’t as stupid or captured by special interest groups like the isaaq and hawiye/USC took their revenge like men. Today darod in south Somalia don’t dare speak up against hawiye.


We got to respect the games we play

[Gubbet]

I love opportunities like this because people get to learn something they did not know.

The "reason" why the single largest and, historically continuing, most powerful Somali clan (as can be seen from history of conquest and geographical reach) is not considered implicated in the 3 largest "densely settled urban centers" (what you called "population" is a correlation) ---

--- is the same reason why Marehan in Galmudug, who are 1/4 of Marehan (compared to Jubbaland Marehan who are 3/4), are implicated in the largest "densely settled urban center" in Galmudug despite being a Darod sea to an Hawiye ocean in that territory.


Sir, so just a quick question first: Do you know the difference between sprawl and compact?

[Gubbet]

Without even going into "theory" like what percentage is preoccupied to show the number of possible options about "population," I am going to use strictly what you used to make an inference to show that is not evidence for that inference.

1. You pointed out correctly that Darod is not implicated in the 3 biggest urban centers of Somalis.

2. But we also know Darood is geographically with the most territory both in distance and area; in fact significantly and even disproportionately.

I made this diagram for you that takes those two facts to show you not being implicated in the largest urban center is not evidence of your inference.



Those are two equal populations just with one compact and one sprawling.

[theyuusuf143]

I am anti somaliland enemies. No matter who ever they are even my own Clan. And I support any one who is against the enemies of somaliland gaal iyo Islam Kay doonaan ba ha ahaadane. I think that's fair game, no hard feelings.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

I am anti somaliland enemies. No matter who ever they are even my own Clan. And I support any one who is against the enemies of somaliland gaal iyo Islam Kay doonaan ba ha ahaadane. I think that's fair game, no hard feelings.

Somaliland is hated deeply. And the hypocrisy of it is exposed by the indiscriminate killing of innocent civilians and illegal invasion of Laascaanood. I hate you because you can’t move on without us. You’re the gaajo who needs the kacaan and its narrative. I hate you deeply. Habar Jeclo need to know, your food to us. I hate you because your fake narrative of victimization fell apart with Muse Bixi’s unilateral invasion.

[theyuusuf143]

Well I don't care actually. It's better to be an open enemies . I am not complaining.

[barbarossa]

As a certain famous American philosopher of negro persuasion, Rodney King once said, " why can we not all get along"?

[skywalker25]

Without even going into "theory" like what percentage is preoccupied to show the number of possible options about "population," I am going to use strictly what you used to make an inference to show that is not evidence for that inference.

1. You pointed out correctly that Darod is not implicated in the 3 biggest urban centers of Somalis.

2. But we also know Darood is geographically with the most territory both in distance and area; in fact significantly and even disproportionately.

I made this diagram for you that takes those two facts to show you not being implicated in the largest urban center is not evidence of your inference.



Those are two equal populations just with one compact and one sprawling.

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Okay tell us more.....

[theyuusuf143]

As a certain famous American philosopher of negro persuasion, Rodney King once said, " why can we not all get along"?

Why can't Ukraine and Russia get along ? And why the other so called civilized peaple are fueling the war between two brotherly nations.

No matter who ever you are , and how much you try to mind your business, humans are created to compete for territory , resources , power and dominance. I believe the nature. You can't change the human nature.

[mahoka]

I love opportunities like this because people get to learn something they did not know.

The "reason" why the single largest and, historically continuing, most powerful Somali clan (as can be seen from history of conquest and geographical reach) is not considered implicated in the 3 largest "densely settled urban centers" (what you called "population" is a correlation) ---

--- is the same reason why Marehan in Galmudug, who are 1/4 of Marehan (compared to Jubbaland Marehan who are 3/4), are implicated in the largest "densely settled urban center" in Galmudug despite being a Darod sea to an Hawiye ocean in that territory.


Sir, so just a quick question first: Do you know the difference between sprawl and compact?

You are emotional and your emotions got the better of you hence you claimed you are the single largest somali clan - you are neither a clan or close to the largest anything or historic (you are not represented in both somali states of adal and ajuuran), darod is a confederation of smaller communities who came together defend themselves against the big clans, this is why for example in history there has never been darod taking land from isaaq but isaaq taking darod land. This is proof of your defensive nature.

Secondly darod can’t be from the same bloodline since you all hate each other - sure brotherly clans fight (example is for example sacad muse and ciidagale, or hy and hj) but these conflicts are very brief and solved quickly and they don’t take land or wealth from each other. Darod try to wipe each other out -example is mareexan led kacaan trying to wipe out majeerten (mass rape of mj women and poisoning of their wells) similarly ogaden has take land from mareexan in jubbaland, mj has taken land from both warsangeli and dhulo etc - proof your relationship is nothing more than an alliance.


I will be honest and point out that darod community has much better leadership and elites then isaaq, darod leadership and elites want darod as a whole to prosper while isaaq leadership and elites take advantage of isaaq and have a parasitic relationship with the isaaq masses - this is a huge advantage that darod have over the isaaq, isaaq people are like North Koreans - not allowed to question their terrible leadership. This is a major weakness which results in continues isaaq political defeats from 1960 to today, the fact isaaq masses haven’t learned any single lesson regarding their leaders is an indication of potentially low IQ.

[Gubbet]

Without even going into "theory" like what percentage is preoccupied to show the number of possible options about "population," I am going to use strictly what you used to make an inference to show that is not evidence for that inference.

1. You pointed out correctly that Darod is not implicated in the 3 biggest urban centers of Somalis.

2. But we also know Darood is geographically with the most territory both in distance and area; in fact significantly and even disproportionately.

I made this diagram for you that takes those two facts to show you not being implicated in the largest urban center is not evidence of your inference.



Those are two equal populations just with one compact and one sprawling.

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Okay tell us more.....

I don't see anything relevant to respond to.

Playing population statistics manipulation because of the fact there has never been a completely standardized, scientific count of Somalis is sort of ironic when "why" you are using something is also behind "what you are using."


Look at it this way.

1. Parent leaves money on the table.
2. Two siblings both claim the money on the lack of substantiation for whom the money was left for.
3. One sibling then says "it is my money because money was left."

You are manipulating the population statistics available because there is no single universally recognized scientific count, yet you want to then want to argue the manipulated attempt is evidence of a scientific count.

[Gubbet]

I love opportunities like this because people get to learn something they did not know.

The "reason" why the single largest and, historically continuing, most powerful Somali clan (as can be seen from history of conquest and geographical reach) is not considered implicated in the 3 largest "densely settled urban centers" (what you called "population" is a correlation) ---

--- is the same reason why Marehan in Galmudug, who are 1/4 of Marehan (compared to Jubbaland Marehan who are 3/4), are implicated in the largest "densely settled urban center" in Galmudug despite being a Darod sea to an Hawiye ocean in that territory.


Sir, so just a quick question first: Do you know the difference between sprawl and compact?

You are emotional and your emotions got the better of you hence you claimed you are the single largest somali clan - you are neither a clan or close to the largest anything or historic (you are not represented in both somali states of adal and ajuuran), darod is a confederation of smaller communities who came together defend themselves against the big clans, this is why for example in history there has never been darod taking land from isaaq but isaaq taking darod land. This is proof of your defensive nature.

I am not going to have a fake conversation with you. No more gaslighting. Be a big boy and show you can handle adult conversation.

[skywalker25]

Without even going into "theory" like what percentage is preoccupied to show the number of possible options about "population," I am going to use strictly what you used to make an inference to show that is not evidence for that inference.

1. You pointed out correctly that Darod is not implicated in the 3 biggest urban centers of Somalis.

2. But we also know Darood is geographically with the most territory both in distance and area; in fact significantly and even disproportionately.

I made this diagram for you that takes those two facts to show you not being implicated in the largest urban center is not evidence of your inference.



Those are two equal populations just with one compact and one sprawling.

[tweet]


Okay tell us more.....

I don't see anything relevant to respond to.

Playing population statistics manipulation because of the fact there has never been a completely standardized, scientific count of Somalis is sort of ironic when "why" you are using something is also behind "what you are using."


Look at it this way.

1. Parent leaves money on the table.
2. Two siblings both claim the money on the lack of substantiation for whom the money was left for.
3. One sibling then says "it is my money because money was left."

You are manipulating the population statistics available because there is no single universally recognized scientific count, yet you want to then want to argue the manipulated attempt is evidence of a scientific count.

What are you waffling. Forget the valid points bendover has made on his twitter. But surely you can't ignore the heat map. That does not need population count. It's right in front of your eyes.