Somebody asked me today about Ogaden equity in Jubbaland; Subconsciously I said "It is equal to Marehan in 'Galmudug'"

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Somebody asked me today about Ogaden equity in Jubbaland; Subconsciously I said "It is equal to Marehan in 'Galmudug'"

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And I realized, "YES! It is in fact equal to Marehan in Galmudug in the most generous of comparisons relative to their equity in Jubbaland."

Under the most generous circumstances, it is like 'Marehan' in Galmudug.

  1. Despite grazing clashes implicating the periphery, Marehan has one full control over one full district in Galmudug: Caabudwaaq.
    • Despite the similar including even settlement diversity, Ogaden has one full district in Jubbaland: Afmadoow
  2. Marehan has smaller administrative units like Balanbale and Dhabad which are important locally but nationally are tertiary to Caabudwaaq.
    • Absame has similar administrative units like Badhaadhe and Bu'aale which are important locally buf nationally tertiary to Afmadoow.
  3. In Galmudug, there is Dhusamareb which is a strong representative of Galgaduud equity as a consensus although not the biggest town in central Somalia which reserves a special grievance from Marehan historical presence.
    • In Jubbaland, there is Bardere which is a strong representative of Gedo equity as a consensus although not the biggest town in Jubbaland which reserves a special grievance from Absame historical presence.
  4. Marehan are currently implicated in the biggest population center of Galmudug although of their own accord: Caabudwaaq
    • Ogaden are currently implicated in the biggest population center of Jubbaland although because of KDF presence: Kismaayo
  5. Marehan in Galmudug straddle an international boundary and in fact most of their settlements amd population in that wide region is on the non-Somalia side of border.
    • Ogaden in Jubbaland straddle an International border and in fact most of their settlements and population in that wide region is on the non-Somalia side of border.
  6. Marehan do not control Hobyo, Cadaado, Dhusamareb, Ceel Buur, Ceel Dheer, Southern Gaalkacyo, etc.
    • Ogaden do not control Dollow, Beled-Hawa, Garbahaarey, Ceel Waaq, Buurdhuubo, Bardere, Luuq, etc.
  7. Galmudug was entirely consensus on the ground without foreign troops and Marehan took Vice President
    • Ogaden deserves Vice President
  8. Marehana took seats in Galmudug Parliament that were below the majority.
    • Ogaden deserves seats in Jubbaland Parliament below the majority.
When you 'engineer' or create something unnatural you are going to be implicated in instability, 10 years of complete failure, and unyielding paranoia and obsession about the inevitability of finally' loosing control.

Jubbaland is a problem because it is like 'Marehan' being hoisted on Galmudug federal Somalia 'unnatturally.'

Ogaden in Jubbaland equity is generously comparable to be Marehan in Galmudug---where 1/4 of Somalia's Marehan live.

Jubbaland has never been able to take off or find any basic substantive movement becaise it was built "AGAINST" natural order.
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Re: Somebody asked me today about Ogaden equity in Jubbaland; In subconsciously said "It is equal to Marehan in 'Galmud

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Desperation dot com :lol: a non-Darod has more chance leading the enclave called Jubaland than your Ilkoyar family
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Re: Somebody asked me today about Ogaden equity in Jubbaland; In subconsciously said "It is equal to Marehan in 'Galmud

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BigBreak wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 7:48 am Desperation dot com :lol: a non-Darod has more chance leading the enclave called Jubaland than your Ilkoyar family
No, actually you, I, and everyone knows Jubbaland once Ahmed Madoobe and the long Uhuru con is removed will fall into to Marehan and once Marehan takes Presidency ----the following President is Marehan, the succeeding 3rd, 4th, 5th. This is "natural" because the Ahmed Madoobe issue itself has been the "clog" in the drain or "stop" in a pipe--once you remove the "obstacle" water rushes to its destination again and again and again.
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Re: Somebody asked me today about Ogaden equity in Jubbaland; Subconsciously I said "It is equal to Marehan in 'Galmudu

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Your unhealthy obsession with Ogaden is Gross. Stop comparing Jubbaland to your slavery situation in Galmudug :lol:
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cagdheers are slaves of Bantu Kenyans so look in the mirror lol
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Re: Somebody asked me today about Ogaden equity in Jubbaland; Subconsciously I said "It is equal to Marehan in 'Galmudu

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Based on my knowledge cagdheer occupies the core areas of the daarod side of jubaland. So they are not as irrelevant in jubaland as the mareexaans are in our glorious state of galmudug.
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Re: Somebody asked me today about Ogaden equity in Jubbaland; Subconsciously I said "It is equal to Marehan in 'Galmudu

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theyuusuf143 wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:04 pm Based on my knowledge cagdheer occupies the core areas of the daarod side of jubaland. So they are not as irrelevant in jubaland as the mareexaans are in our glorious state of galmudug.
You have SL. Darood are the majority of two federal states. That’s why you the secessionist. Riwayad, tell it to someone else. Whether we kill each other or not. Keeping that in our hands is my job :arrow:
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Re: Somebody asked me today about Ogaden equity in Jubbaland; Subconsciously I said "It is equal to Marehan in 'Galmudu

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theyuusuf143 wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:04 pm Based on my knowledge cagdheer occupies the core areas of the daarod side of jubaland. So they are not as irrelevant in jubaland as the mareexaans are in our glorious state of galmudug.
Yuusuf, waxaan dhaqan gobeed maaha. In fact, in Hargeisa, I learned another market alternative with another "g" which, as is my profound disagreement with the horrible historical Somali caste tyranny, I shall not reference.

Whatever the term, the point of the phrase means don't be "petty." Involving yourself on every Marehan issue because of Las Anod is the definition of "petty." Gobonimmo waxaa la yiraahda someone being profoundly against you on one issue ( Muuse transgression against Las Anod) while at the same time implicating themselves in the following defense of you..in a response to a brother from Las Anod whose cause one deeply supports;
Gubbet wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 11:47 am The Eyduur are some of the nicest and most warm hearted human beings I have met. I deeply resent what Muuse has implicated them in with their neighbors and brothers and sisters.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 8#p5045379
Yasak, Yusuf. Nin rag ah waa the opposite of petty!
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Re: Somebody asked me today about Ogaden equity in Jubbaland; Subconsciously I said "It is equal to Marehan in 'Galmudu

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Rebelxx222 wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 9:01 am Your unhealthy obsession with Ogaden is Gross. Stop comparing Jubbaland to your slavery situation in Galmudug :lol:
Nonsense. I don't talk about Jigjiga, Godey, or Garissa at all. Do you notice that? I talk about Jubbaland, Shilabo, and Doollo---whose reason I talk about is entirely because of "Marehan." And so my friend, learn the difference between 'correlation' vs 'causation.' Ogaden is the 'audience,' it is not the 'constituency.' That would be my own Marehan to whom I am talking about.

With that correction, I would like to make a clarification. Ogaden are as a group probably at the top of the list of 'social groups ' in human history I have and/or hold the warmest of sensibilities. Even in the middle of active hostilities---and this has been more political really than physical---I can never even feel any noticable negative considerations toward them. Howeve, I have profound political disagreements with them and I do not apologize for that.

Learn the difference between 'hating' someone vs holding them 'accountable.'

Nobody loves a human more than their parents---and their parents are supposed to be the 1st people holding that human accountable.
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Re: Somebody asked me today about Ogaden equity in Jubbaland; Subconsciously I said "It is equal to Marehan in 'Galmudu

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Gubbet wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:02 pm
theyuusuf143 wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:04 pm Based on my knowledge cagdheer occupies the core areas of the daarod side of jubaland. So they are not as irrelevant in jubaland as the mareexaans are in our glorious state of galmudug.
Yuusuf, waxaan dhaqan gobeed maaha. In fact, in Hargeisa, I learned another market alternative with another "g" which, as is my profound disagreement with the horrible historical Somali caste tyranny, I shall not reference.

Whatever the term, the point of the phrase means don't be "petty." Involving yourself on every Marehan issue because of Las Anod is the definition of "petty." Gobonimmo waxaa la yiraahda someone being profoundly against you on one issue ( Muuse transgression against Las Anod) while at the same time implicating themselves in the following defense of you..in a response to a brother from Las Anod whose cause one deeply supports;
Gubbet wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 11:47 am The Eyduur are some of the nicest and most warm hearted human beings I have met. I deeply resent what Muuse has implicated them in with their neighbors and brothers and sisters.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 8#p5045379
Yasak, Yusuf. Nin rag ah waa the opposite of petty!
Brother gubet eebbaan Ku dhaartee waxay mareexaan personally ii qabteen weligay cid ima tarin , I don't hate your peaple , xitaa weligay nacayb mareexaan kuma seexan one night , hadaan caawa dhintana waan ogahay mareexaan safka horay Ku tukanayan jinaazadayda , dadka aan halkan Ka duuliyo magacoodu weligay wax iima qaban personally , in fact I have zero isaaq freinds, asalkaygii horena habar yoonis baan lasoo koray .

I personally admire waxad mareexaan u qabatay ee aanay kuu ogayn , waanan kugu support gareeya . Let's separate things. Meeshan siyaasad baa lagu karkariya inana niman siyaasiyiina baynu nahay geopolitically isku afkaar ma nihin. Markan Ku duqeeyo ha moodin inaan kaaga hiilanayo ogadeen . Cagdheer iyo mareexaan labada I dislike the cagdheer weliba kuwa Ethiopia. Laakiin kuwa jubaland I am Oki with them politically , siday haatan marxaladu tahay.

Hadalka banaanka hayga wada keenine nacala aabaha Ku yaale tolkaa cagdheer la heshii . I genuinely believe inaad Axmed madoobe admin kiisa Ka gardaran tihiin. Anagu habarjeclo ahaan waxaanu aaminsanahay philosophy ah indrkaa suuliga biyaha u dhig marku caruuska yahay , si uu markaagana kuugu adeego. Waxan kugula talin lahaa Somali qabyaalad bay u kala baxdee tolkaa dhabayaco iyo cagdheer ba la heshii. Annna irirkaygaan isku soo jiidaya. Sidaas baa inoo balana walaal. Galmudug na anaga lehe Nooga baxa system kayaga oo puntland raaca.
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I am so confident inaan anoo habarjeclo ah galmudug kaa sheegto because of qabyaalad xitaa the majority of habar gidir can't respond to me negatively. Waryaaadha prove me wrong. We don't want caabudwaaq to be part of galmudug. Wado yaroo luuqa baanu idiin banaynayna ee halkaas kaga biira puntland. :lol:
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theyuusuf143 wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 4:14 pm I am so confident inaan anoo habarjeclo ah galmudug kaa sheegto because of qabyaalad xitaa the majority of habar gidir can't respond to me negatively. Waryaaadha prove me wrong. We don't want caabudwaaq to be part of galmudug. Wado yaroo luuqa baanu idiin banaynayna ee halkaas kaga biira puntland. :lol:
Waad ku mahadsantahay, ana Xuddun iyo Garbahaareey baan isku xiran. What did Ilkacase say @ 0:08...okkkkk :lol:

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Inaad daarood dhinac Ka raacdo waad Ku khasban tahay . Hadaynu dhamaateen qabyaalad u kala baxno. Xal baa la gaadhi lahaa.
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theyuusuf143 wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:57 pm
Gubbet wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:02 pm
theyuusuf143 wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:04 pm Based on my knowledge cagdheer occupies the core areas of the daarod side of jubaland. So they are not as irrelevant in jubaland as the mareexaans are in our glorious state of galmudug.
Yuusuf, waxaan dhaqan gobeed maaha. In fact, in Hargeisa, I learned another market alternative with another "g" which, as is my profound disagreement with the horrible historical Somali caste tyranny, I shall not reference.

Whatever the term, the point of the phrase means don't be "petty." Involving yourself on every Marehan issue because of Las Anod is the definition of "petty." Gobonimmo waxaa la yiraahda someone being profoundly against you on one issue ( Muuse transgression against Las Anod) while at the same time implicating themselves in the following defense of you..in a response to a brother from Las Anod whose cause one deeply supports;
Gubbet wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 11:47 am The Eyduur are some of the nicest and most warm hearted human beings I have met. I deeply resent what Muuse has implicated them in with their neighbors and brothers and sisters.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 8#p5045379
Yasak, Yusuf. Nin rag ah waa the opposite of petty!
Brother gubet eebbaan Ku dhaartee waxay mareexaan personally ii qabteen weligay cid ima tarin , I don't hate your peaple , xitaa weligay nacayb mareexaan kuma seexan one night , hadaan caawa dhintana waan ogahay mareexaan safka horay Ku tukanayan jinaazadayda , dadka aan halkan Ka duuliyo magacoodu weligay wax iima qaban personally , in fact I have zero isaaq freinds, asalkaygii horena habar yoonis baan lasoo koray .

I personally admire waxad mareexaan u qabatay ee aanay kuu ogayn , waanan kugu support gareeya . Let's separate things. Meeshan siyaasad baa lagu karkariya inana niman siyaasiyiina baynu nahay geopolitically isku afkaar ma nihin. Markan Ku duqeeyo ha moodin inaan kaaga hiilanayo ogadeen . Cagdheer iyo mareexaan labada I dislike the cagdheer weliba kuwa Ethiopia. Laakiin kuwa jubaland I am Oki with them politically , siday haatan marxaladu tahay.

Hadalka banaanka hayga wada keenine nacala aabaha Ku yaale tolkaa cagdheer la heshii . I genuinely believe inaad Axmed madoobe admin kiisa Ka gardaran tihiin. Anagu habarjeclo ahaan waxaanu aaminsanahay philosophy ah indrkaa suuliga biyaha u dhig marku caruuska yahay , si uu markaagana kuugu adeego. Waxan kugula talin lahaa Somali qabyaalad bay u kala baxdee tolkaa dhabayaco iyo cagdheer ba la heshii. Annna irirkaygaan isku soo jiidaya. Sidaas baa inoo balana walaal. Galmudug na anaga lehe Nooga baxa system kayaga oo puntland raaca.
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Re: Somebody asked me today about Ogaden equity in Jubbaland; Subconsciously I said "It is equal to Marehan in 'Galmudu

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theyuusuf143 wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 7:52 am Inaad daarood dhinac Ka raacdo waad Ku khasban tahay . Hadaynu dhamaateen qabyaalad u kala baxno. Xal baa la gaadhi lahaa.
War anigu Daarood iyo Soomaali iyo Muslim iyo gaalba waan wada raaci hadii u is maqal, wada shaqayn, iyo xushmad naga dhaxeeyo.

Yusuf, I am the most pro,-Majeerteen of all Ilkoyar here, the most pro-Daarood of all ilmo doofaar Darood, the most pro-Isaaq of all faqash here, and the most pro-Hawiye of all Walawayn in all criticizing and pushing back against 'my side' as quickly as other sides.

You probably never connected me being the most pro-MJ among Ilkoyar and the most pro-Isaaq among the faqash are correlated even connected huh?

Yusuf, I am not about 'people;' I am about 'ideas.'

Whatever I implicate about people is only effect from my relationship to an 'idea.'

So when it comes to my consideration regarding 'injustice,' I am against Muuse and his supporters---but when it comes to my consideration regarding 'justice' I am pro-Hargeisa so strongly I have even crossed the threshold to accept they have a right to self-determination including independence from Somalia. 'They,' of course without forcing or compelling 'others' who seek to stay in Somalia.


Ideas Yusuf, not people is real the invisible connective umbilical cord in my value system.
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