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Who holds the grievance is very interesting between the generations.

There are two grievance inspiring focal points: Kenadiid (Pax Migurtinia) & Siyaad (Kacaan).

The older Majerteen prism is from "mourning" the loss of Kenadiid (Pax Migurtinia) and so they hold grievance against Marehan because they see Siyaad and Kacaan has what destroyed it.

The younger Marehan prism is from "mourning" the loss of Siyaad (Kacaan) and so they hold grievance against Majerteen because they see Abdullahi Yusuf and SSDF as what destroyed it.

The difference between older Majerten and older Marehan has always been striking to me. The older Majerten, to me, displayed no sense of "warmth" towards Marehan at all given their shared Darod membership and even intimate history even throughout the civil war and even displayed just cold enmity. The older Marehan though showed a peculiar warmth to Majerten that was very contrasting with the older Majerten. It was sort of like an estranged family even two brothers at war, but brothers understand as such.

I started to realize the circumstances have switched and probably since the most recent generation came of age.

The younger the Majerten the more he is likely to reflect the older MX and the younger the MX the more he is likely to reflect the older MJ. It is obvious to me the difference is brought about by WHAT the grievance is and WHO holds it.

Now obviously there are outliers as I, myself, will tell you I am not representative of the majority of MX of my generation and younger who are substantially more hawkish and even observing guys like Libaax Joore of Somalispot, I can clearly see the MJ are not homogeneous either with a strong minority substantially more hawkish in this subject than the majority of their younger moderate generation.

I bet this would be fascinating to study at a sociologically empirical level. Maybe we would be able to make traction on Somali reconciliation as a general matter!

I take pride in acknowledging harsh truths even if it paints me, my tribe in a bad light but dammit I’ll say it:


-I believe MSB AUN might have destroyed Somalia by disturbing the status quo.


60s MJ were the elites, HAG were fearful of them, they were the kings of Darood everyone knew their role, and a state existed. Maybe we in the long run would have been better off that way.



So now that I got that out of the way and spoke the truth my only retort to MJ is at the end of the day wixi dhaceen wey dhaceen. Let’s all move forward with a new understanding. ‘60s, ‘70s, Keenadiid, MSB is all ancient history. Let’s move on.

Murax wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 2:41 pm I take pride in acknowledging harsh truths even if it paints me, my tribe in a bad light but dammit I’ll say it:


-I believe MSB AUN might have destroyed Somalia by disturbing the status quo.


60s MJ were the elites, HAG were fearful of them, they were the kings of Darood everyone knew their role, and a state existed. Maybe we in the long run would have been better off that way.



So now that I got that out of the way and spoke the truth my only retort to MJ is at the end of the day wixi dhaceen wey dhaceen. Let’s all move forward with a new understanding. ‘60s, ‘70s, Keenadiid, MSB is all ancient history. Let’s move on.

The 60's government was exactly 3 years longer than Farmaajo's presidency.

In fact the entire 1956-1969 colonial and post colonial era of Somali implicated governance was almost exactly as long as Abdiqasim and Carta to the middle of the 1st HSM term.


Somali history is very interesting once contextualized properly.

My purpose for bringing up this subject is the identification of these states of being or namely the behavior exhibited which could be explained by the fact that "grievances" exists.

Bahashii hal kalaad u rartay.

Murax wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 2:41 pm I take pride in acknowledging harsh truths even if it paints me, my tribe in a bad light but dammit I’ll say it:


-I believe MSB AUN might have destroyed Somalia by disturbing the status quo.


60s MJ were the elites, HAG were fearful of them, they were the kings of Darood everyone knew their role, and a state existed. Maybe we in the long run would have been better off that way.



So now that I got that out of the way and spoke the truth my only retort to MJ is at the end of the day wixi dhaceen wey dhaceen. Let’s all move forward with a new understanding. ‘60s, ‘70s, Keenadiid, MSB is all ancient history. Let’s move on.

Absolutely, I don't know why everybody would connect all MX with dawladi Kacaanka or this a Somali habit of making the wrong assumptions and connect whoever in charge with his/her Qabiil, I know MX people who were struggling needed some help promotion or job and helped by mine relatives