UN Security Council, including UAE, moves to continue Somalia's Arms Embargo 11-0.

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UN Security Council, including UAE, moves to continue Somalia's Arms Embargo 11-0.

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HSM is total hot air balloon. Everything they have done "buunbuunin" is ultimately a bust.

11 votes to continue Arms Embargo including UAE
0 votes to end it
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Security Council Renews Sanctions Regime on Somalia, Mandate for Panel of Experts, Adopting Resolution 2662 (2022) by 11 Votes in Favour, 4 Abstentions

To enforce the arms embargo on Somalia, the Security Council decided today to reauthorize maritime interdiction of illicit weapons imports, charcoal exports, and improvised explosive device components, while also renewing the mandate of the Panel of Experts on Somalia.

https://press.un.org/en/2022/sc15110.doc.htm
This is the substantive structure or "pieces" of the Arms Embargo which is a "sections regime" (a whole host of things).

Their move to continue the piecemeals of the sanctions regine is "exactly" the predicted outcome for the renewal vote of the "arms embargo" as a component of the "regime" come November which will be a perfunctory vote.


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Somalia has Strong enemies this shit is bigger than Xassan even being their puppet is not enough
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I am aware sxb, I am making a parody of Sahal on Somalispot and also because it is that actually predictable that this will "has been" the outcome (i.e. arms embargo will not be lifted.)
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KacdoonSool wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:07 pm Somalia has Strong enemies this shit is bigger than Xassan even being their puppet is not enough
The only enemy we have is ourselves. I have been 100% against the lifting of the arms embargo even under Farmaajo presidency.
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Gubbet wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 2:14 pm
KacdoonSool wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:07 pm Somalia has Strong enemies this shit is bigger than Xassan even being their puppet is not enough
The only enemy we have is ourselves. I have been 100% against the lifting of the arms embargo even under Farmaajo presidency.

Of course you are nice change of tone. However, we was making progress on reconciliation and easing of clan conflict. Some elites always feared us handling our state interests. They’ll always fear us. They always hated us and will hate us
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Gubbet wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 2:14 pm
KacdoonSool wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:07 pm Somalia has Strong enemies this shit is bigger than Xassan even being their puppet is not enough
The only enemy we have is ourselves. I have been 100% against the lifting of the arms embargo even under Farmaajo presidency.
Why not under Farmaajo though?????? Say what you will about Farmaajo but the SNA under him was shaping up to be a diverse, multi tribe clan. With Hsm the Xalane cartel are right to extend the embargo but for all the wrong reasons!
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Murax wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:50 pm
Gubbet wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 2:14 pm
KacdoonSool wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:07 pm Somalia has Strong enemies this shit is bigger than Xassan even being their puppet is not enough
The only enemy we have is ourselves. I have been 100% against the lifting of the arms embargo even under Farmaajo presidency.
Why not under Farmaajo though?????? Say what you will about Farmaajo but the SNA under him was shaping up to be a diverse, multi tribe clan. With Hsm the Xalane cartel are right to extend the embargo but for all the wrong reasons!
Because exactly of what came after Farmajo.

Even Afghanistan shows the minimum bar to justify consideration of a "state."

Somalia does not and has proven it after what HSM has been able to do after Farmajo's government.

The arms embargo is an indictment on "systematic" State of Somalia. It is not about individuals whether we think they are good or not.

If the arms embargo had been repealed under Farmajo, just imagine what kind of tools would have been "gifted" to tribal militias who predictably only ended up filling Shabaab arsenal.

HSM is such a waste of time and a collosal imposition on Somalia's state building project because of the complete "irrelevance" of the total sum of his impact or contribution in the grand scheme of things to Somalia's state formation going by the complete irrelevance of what seems to be his purpose/animating motivations.
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Actually you’re 100% right. If there is not a system in place to ensure the likes of Culusow can NEVER be at the helm of a military possessing modern, conventional weapons then it shouldn’t be allowed even when there is a professional head of state at the helm. Thanks for correcting.
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Murax wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 1:00 am Actually you’re 100% right. If there is not a system in place to ensure the likes of Culusow can NEVER be at the helm of a military possessing modern, conventional weapons then it shouldn’t be allowed even when there is a professional head of state at the helm. Thanks for correcting.
Hate it or not but Hassan Buldananaa has liberated 80% of the liberated districts in both his tenure. So the likes of him are certainly needed whether u hate him or not that's the reality on ground
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AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 2:48 pm
Murax wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 1:00 am Actually you’re 100% right. If there is not a system in place to ensure the likes of Culusow can NEVER be at the helm of a military possessing modern, conventional weapons then it shouldn’t be allowed even when there is a professional head of state at the helm. Thanks for correcting.
Hate it or not but Hassan Buldananaa has liberated 80% of the liberated districts in both his tenure. So the likes of him are certainly needed whether u hate him or not that's the reality on ground
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My suggestion

We need to split international arms delivery into 4.5 hub sharing system.
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mahoka wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 6:33 pm My suggestion

We need to split internal arms into 4.5 hub sharing system.
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AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 2:48 pm
Murax wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 1:00 am Actually you’re 100% right. If there is not a system in place to ensure the likes of Culusow can NEVER be at the helm of a military possessing modern, conventional weapons then it shouldn’t be allowed even when there is a professional head of state at the helm. Thanks for correcting.
Hate it or not but Hassan Buldananaa has liberated 80% of the liberated districts in both his tenure. So the likes of him are certainly needed whether u hate him or not that's the reality on ground

Abkowdhiblaawe,

Brother sometimes you get tunnel vision when it comes to Al Shaydaan. To me good governance, unifying the country, building a unified not tribal army, avoiding nepotism are just as if not more than simply liberating villages. I say villages at best because until now after all the birmade hype there hasn’t been 1 district liberated. You have a president who openly bilaa xishood while laughing bragged about giving family positions. You have 1990s era tribal mobilization all over Somalia happening but you want us to say ‘it’s all a coincidence’ the president has no accountability? How many things would yourself and other Mucaarad put on Farmaajo? Personally I saw nothing wrong with that because I believe the president Commander in Chief is ultimately responsible. Let’s just be consistent here with Xassan as well.
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Murax wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:37 am
AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 2:48 pm
Murax wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 1:00 am Actually you’re 100% right. If there is not a system in place to ensure the likes of Culusow can NEVER be at the helm of a military possessing modern, conventional weapons then it shouldn’t be allowed even when there is a professional head of state at the helm. Thanks for correcting.
Hate it or not but Hassan Buldananaa has liberated 80% of the liberated districts in both his tenure. So the likes of him are certainly needed whether u hate him or not that's the reality on ground

Abkowdhiblaawe,

Brother sometimes you get tunnel vision when it comes to Al Shaydaan. To me good governance, unifying the country, building a unified not tribal army, avoiding nepotism are just as if not more than simply liberating villages. I say villages at best because until now after all the birmade hype there hasn’t been 1 district liberated. You have a president who openly bilaa xishood while laughing bragged about giving family positions. You have 1990s era tribal mobilization all over Somalia happening but you want us to say ‘it’s all a coincidence’ the president has no accountability? How many things would yourself and other Mucaarad put on Farmaajo? Personally I saw nothing wrong with that because I believe the president Commander in Chief is ultimately responsible. Let’s just be consistent here with Xassan as well.
Sxb you can criticize HSM he is the president kuuma diidani. Laakin lemme correct you Xarardheere, Ceeldheer, Aadan Yabaal and Ruun Nirgood are full districts liberated. All the districts in MS are free from AS. In GM only Ceelbuur is remaining which will be liberated shortly inshallah. When it comes to AS HSM has been the most effective against them.

As for the clan conflicts. Anyone can see that there are politicians and khawaarij fueling these conflicts to sabotage the liberation efforts. Guudlawe is an perfect example of AS enabler we have many evidence. You have people like Kheire, FY funding these clan wars.
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