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Djibouti is proposing a United Nations referendum on Independence for Somaliland

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Somaliland to Nullify its MOU with Ethiopia.

Sources close to the Djiboutian regime have revealed to Inside Africa that Djibouti is actively working to persuade the Mogadishu administration to grant Somaliland a popular referendum. This referendum would allow the people of Somaliland to decide whether they wish to remain with Mogadishu or pursue their own self-determination. In return, Somaliland would be required to withdraw the Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) signed with Ethiopia.

The MOU in question grants Ethiopia access to the strategically important Red Sea, in exchange for Addis Ababa's recognition of Somaliland's independence.

Djibouti views this proposal as a practical and workable solution that could effectively prevent the implementation of the MOU, which has caused significant concern for both Djibouti and Mogadishu.
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Re: Djibouti is proposing a United Nations referendum on Independence for Somaliland

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That's how the civilised world solve their issues. But I doubt Somalians would accept it. They would rather pursue their policy to dismantle Somaliand which is a disaster for the entire horn.
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Re: Djibouti is proposing a United Nations referendum on Independence for Somaliland

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If this reported Djiboutian proposed referendum comes to pass and Somaliland becomes an independent nation, it then behooves the latter to be eternally grateful to the former.
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Doesn't make any sense at all.
Djibouti is opposed to any Ethiopian operated port that threatens their momopoly on Ethiopian imports/ exports.

If sl becomes independent there is nothing to stop them from granting Ethiopian concessions on the coast, thereby undercutting the port of Djibouti?

Djibouti would be cutting their own throats.
This is clearly fake marfish news.
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Re: Djibouti is proposing a United Nations referendum on Independence for Somaliland

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original dervish wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 10:57 am Doesn't make any sense at all.
Djibouti is opposed to any Ethiopian operated port that threatens their momopoly on Ethiopian imports/ exports.

If sl becomes independent there is nothing to stop them from granting Ethiopian concessions on the coast, thereby undercutting the port of Djibouti?

Djibouti would be cutting their own throats.
This is clearly fake marfish news.

Djibouti policy is sto stop Ethiopia from getting port or. A sea out let. The bunker just is oppposed to what somaliland will get from. The deal they have no issue with Ethiopia getting a sea out let. For jabuuuti it is different their life is dependant on it. So they don’t care if somaliland is recognised but Ethiopia has to remain landlocked for their monopoly bussiness to exist . If somaliland is recognised by the rest of the world there is no point of giving Ethiopia a port or a naval base Djibouti understand this
Walanweyn don’t understand this Djibouti wants to protect its interests but the mou is worse for jabuuuti then somaliland Recognition. This is the calculation that is up
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As I've already pointed out, if sl becomes an independent country they have every incentive to replace Djibouti port as the primary transport corridor for Ethiopian imports and exports. There is absolutely no chance of Djibouti backing sl independence. Your just fantasing as usual sxb.

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Even if Djibouti/ Eritrea somalia axis win their diplomatic battle. Somaliland won't loose a cent , in it's economic goals.

As long as Ethiopia is sidelined we are in better position to replace Djibouti any way. At end of the Day what counts is the resources not the recognition.
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Re: Djibouti is proposing a United Nations referendum on Independence for Somaliland

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original dervish wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 11:15 am As I've already pointed out, if sl becomes an independent country they have every incentive to replace Djibouti port as the primary transport corridor for Ethiopian imports and exports. There is absolutely no chance of Djibouti backing sl independence. Your just fantasing as usual sxb.

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Djibouti is already about to lose 40 percent of its bussiness to somaliland whether somaliland is recognised or not why do u think uae invested 500 million dollars in berbera its not about port bussiness Djibouti will lose all of its bussiness if the mou is implemented that is the issue of Ethiopia manages to get a free port and a free naval base its over for jabuuti all Somaliland has other resources and diffferent ways to diversify it’s economy jabuuti doesn’t it’s solely based on port bussines if it loses that it. Can just wrap up and close down jabuuti as a whole their issue is to stop the mou not somaliland recognition if Somaliland is recognised they just protected 60 percent of its bussines if the mou is implamented they lose everting put ur self in their position what is worde Ethiopia getting a free port and naval base. Or Ethiopia just being landlocked and being forced to either use jabuuti and Berbera.
The choice is made very fast

Do the math somaliland loses nothing both cases are a win for somaliland but for jabuuti the mou is an excution
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Re: Djibouti is proposing a United Nations referendum on Independence for Somaliland

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Ethiopia will use Berbera port commercially regardless if Somaliland is recognised or not. This competition for Djabouti port will not go away.

What they are trying to avoid is the idea of recognition for land. If the succeeded it would be more than just a commercial use of Berbera port. Instead It’s having Ethiopia share the Red Sea. Which is why Djabouti would rather have Somaliland gain its recognition without it giving Ethiopia access to the Red Sea.

But what does a lonely alcoholic from the dusty village of las anood know about world affairs.
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skywalker25 wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 1:04 pm Ethiopia will use Berbera port commercially regardless if Somaliland is recognised or not. This competition for Djabouti port will not go away.

What they are trying to avoid is the idea of recognition for land. If the succeeded it would be more than just a commercial use of Berbera port. Instead It’s having Ethiopia share the Red Sea. Which is why Djabouti would rather have Somaliland gain its recognition without it giving Ethiopia access to the Red Sea.

But what does a lonely alcoholic from the dusty village of las anood know about world affairs.


This is what i try to teach our resident qurjiile he can’t seem to comprehend this very part well put
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Re: Djibouti is proposing a United Nations referendum on Independence for Somaliland

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Djibouti is a dirty little brothel for the French army. Its a starving Niggar country. Every Isse boy and his mother has been sexually abused by French men for few Euro. The idea that a little nobody like Djibouti can force the International order to accept border changes and the birth of a new nation is so silly that even the dumb ass Idoor has reached a new low even for them. Somaliland is always going to be stuck with the Qaadweyn hate it or love it.
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Re: Djibouti is proposing a United Nations referendum on Independence for Somaliland

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What international order since when is Somalia and somaliland issue a world order thing madness it’s just skinnies that can’t get along and are destine to be separate the world doesn’t want more wars
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Re: Djibouti is proposing a United Nations referendum on Independence for Somaliland

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skywalker25 wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 1:04 pm Ethiopia will use Berbera port commercially regardless if Somaliland is recognised or not. This competition for Djabouti port will not go away.

For that reason we shouldn't even approve the MoU . Abiy must know we are miles ahead of of him. And should never try to use us as bargaining chip. He must know he has no option but Somaliland. No window shopping. I support any thing Hassan sheikh is doing against Ethiopia as long as he stick to his policy of no naval base. We Somalilanders have nothing to gain from the naval base. We are only interested taking over Ethiopia economy growth services. Which we will do any way.
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Re: Djibouti is proposing a United Nations referendum on Independence for Somaliland

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Dooro interests: no recognition for Somaliland.
Isaaq interests : economy
Hawiye interests: political power

Every one will achieve his goals from my point of view.
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Re: Djibouti is proposing a United Nations referendum on Independence for Somaliland

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A naval base that Ethiopia uses in Somaliland doesn’t hurt us though it hurts our enemies Egypt and Somalia. Somalia opposes the naval base not because of somalinimo but because what somaliland might gain from it recognition. It would want to give Ethiopia a naval base in the Indian Ocean lucky for us Ethiopia doesn’t want the Indian ocean it wants the gulf of Aden and close to the bab el Mandeb. Somalia just wants to stop somaliland recognition Djibouti wants to stop Ethiopia from having its own port or a sea out let where it can do what it wants what also hurts them is Ethiopia navy next to them Egypt wants to keep Ethiopia out of the Red Sea for obvious reason. Eritrea to it s getting nervous if Ethiopia becomes Sea power . But for now we should also stall like Ethiopians are stalling and we should observe what the nations in the region do and if other favourable our come comes. But we must do everting to expose. The weakness of the bunker our nemesis are the dirty Hutus in the bunker no one else for the time being. Wa inaynu kuwa qaawino
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