Sijuis, djiboutians and other somali diids

[Caydid]

Assalamu calaykum,

This issue has been bothering me alot. Since the civil war started in somalia, many somalis have been uprooted. Many somalis found a second home in other countries (middle east, africa, western europe and north america). Most of the somalis with few exceptions are still proud to identify themselves as somalis- inspite of their sufferings. It seems that somalia and somalis to them is a sacred cow that is our hearts anywhere we go.

At the other end of this spectrum are people who become somalis when it benefits them; bogus asylum applications, when they are wronged by the kenyan government. Many of these have applied and achieved asylum on the merits of being somalis. They enjoy the respect of many somalis because of their stand on tribalism.

Yet, I have seen many of them differentiate themselves from somalis when core issues are explored. I have had friends who called themselves kenyan somalis despite their papers saying otherwise.

Do we have a sijui in the house? What is your experience?

[LaDy-Qac]

Maria SIJUI needs to come in here .

I know a couple of sijui's and they feel kinda ashamed being somali9 that' s what I sense). The ones I know don' t interact with somalis that much and try to avoid them. I have never been that interested in them anyway. If they want to seperate themselves from us then I certainly can' t stop them. I'm NOT generalising here I'm speaking from personal experience

[The_Don_of_djibouti]

djibouti in the house....

I have abused, enjoyed and made my life at the back of somalia.

dee somalia meeyaa laa igaa xeegaa.

I am a somali who is gonna say otherwise???
My forefather was somali who is gonna say otherwise????

You are a somali as long as your familly is part of the 4.5 somali strutures...
4.5 are Dir, Darod, Haweeyeeh, digil & midheflay .

0.5 are the rest (recognised under the bigger somali familly).


Therefore whether your are sijew or not as long as you trace to those famillies. you are a somali.......................

[Samatr]

"You are a somali as long as your familly is part of the 4.5 somali strutures...
4.5 are Dir, Darod, Haweeyeeh, digil & midheflay."

This 4.5 thing does not make any sense, wrongly putting Isaaq, Gadabursi, Ciise and other Dir as one branch of 4.5.
Somalia can fuck itself if tries that shit again.

[Caydid]

Lady, Let us see what the "sijuis" write.

The don- actually the question also goes to the somalis in Djibouti. I am going to change the title to include djibouti somalis.

Our name has benefitted alot of people including djiboutians and somalis from every corner of the earth- But these people don't identify with our name (they do when it comes to our values).

In the UK , there are hundreds of somalis who are from djibouti. I have seen many of them identify as JABUUTAAWI and this breaks my heart. When baby jabuuti denies somalis(a) when they came into existance because of somalia.

Mr. Guelleh is a true somali. he does the nobel peace prize for his attempts to bring peace. But he is the exception-

[Unclebin]

Its not like smellyland would've joined somalia if it were 5.5, would it?

[The_Don_of_djibouti]

Samartar maah waxaad kalla garaan wayday when to talk about gabil and when to talk about the concept?

We know and every knows that the Somaliland tribes got the short straw as the DIR (according to the structure) are larger two other group put together….

We are not talking about seats of Somalia parliaments.
We are think out of the BOX.

Hopefully when Somaliland negotiate with the south of Somalia then the Somaliland tribes would have much more Seats.
But that is later….

For now we have to kill all the moryan at the south and inchaallah the mujaheedeen of mugadisho have started already…

[LaDy-Qac]

loooool@ a jabuityaan saying he is somali

Actually jabutiyaan ppl will take it as a HUGE insult if you call them somali. I have experienced this first hand. It was a scary encounter let' s leave it at that

[COOL-MAN]

I am a sujuu and a proud one at that . i am kenyan somali and have nating to hide about it.

so what your beef with sujuus??

bogus asylum seekers huh?? aren't we all?? with exception of cadcad people aren't the rest of us bogus asylum seekers??


before you critisiSe us just look at yourselfs and where you come from first. you are a hawiye. you of all people shouldn't be pointing fingers!. xamaraa lagagasoo cararey duqa . your tribe uprooted almost everybody from that once blosoming city and destroyed it within one month yet your people are allover seeking asylum like everyone else? on what grounds???? and seeking refuge from who?? if there is any bogus asylum seekers, it's you and your iljeex peole so stfu!

this isa useless thread out to devide somalis. ignore this asshole!

[Young_Activist]

WATU WA SUJIU DAD MA'AHA!

somali ayaa dad kadhigtay walaahi, these ppl were basically under colonial before the somalis fled to Kenya. We tought them how stand up against the SANKADHUDHIYASHE. We tought them trade. We tought how to dress up appropriate. We tought dat there is a place called AMERICAN. And now they are ungrateful and they dont like to be associated with us?
Fock them, they are SUIJUIES AND QAABDARAYAAL anyways so who needs them.

[The_Don_of_djibouti]

nacaallah iyoo moryaataan teeheen baah waysee!!!

Are you telling me that i am not a somali?????

What the fu1ck do i talk when i am talking to my mum and dad???


Djibouti is a country:
My country is djibouti........



If the question is are you a moryaan then hell NO....

However i am a somali noble man as the somali noble man called sharif hassan & co.............

[Caydid]

Coolman, you can't be kenyan somali and proud. somalis in the northern frontier district have nothing to be proud of as kenyans. I see them as somalis who are still under colonial rule.

No, somalis from somalia are not bogus refugees. They are in need of safety. If you had claimed to be a kenyan somalis who wanted asylum there is nothing wrong with that. But, it is abuse of somali name to say the least, to cry I AM A SOMALI when it suits your right to asylum- but you suddenly become kenyan somalis or sijuis and disassociate/cut the band with your own people. How shameful!

I have many sijui friends, they are very good people, have somali values and a deep love for somali culture, history but they suddenly become non somalis when needed. When I was studying in England there was this somali woman who was very intelligent at the department. She was the boss in her field. One day at a ceremony she denounced somalis- called herself a kenyan somali and for good left somalinimo.


I have seen the opposite of this on the reer xamars. They are proud to be somalis in the United states. They identify themselves as somalis because you need an identity in this world.

[Caydid]

The don Djibouti is nothing in terms of politics and business without somalis. It could have still being a colony under France or Cali Caarif had it not being for somalis.

Maxamoud Xarbi (allaha ha u naxriiste) would turn in his grave if his people deny their somaliness.

[Caydid]

Coolman, what did Hawiye do to somali sijuis? war anagaa wax aragnay. Hawiye is the black sheep for anyone with some fingers to write!!!!!!!! Somali is more than Hawiye. We are talking beyond the hawiye nation

Don't blame the hawiye for the problems in somalia. That is double standardism. Sijuis claim not to know tribalism but their true colours appear on places like somalinet.

Did you forget that Gabiyow and Kukaay were responsible for the problems- and they were "sijuis"

You don't know anything about xamar- do you my friend?????? It was a hell of a place for many. It was a paradise for those like Kukay and Gebiyow and those who have denied it. There is nothing worse than hell.


Who told you Muqdisho was a paradise????

[COOL-MAN]

It was a paradise for those who lived there UNTILL your uncles discovered it and made it disapear within a short period like it never was

anyways i am talking about your claim " sujuu are bogus asylum seekers" as if sujjus are the only ones guilty of this crime that is if it is a crime at all!

let me ask you a few questions.

u said you used to live in england ? tell me when you went to england what did you tell the asylum authorities?? did you honestly tell them that you are hawiye?? and what was you answer when they asked whom were you seeking refuge from??


facts

xamar is safe for a hawiye to live therefore any hawiye seeking asylum is a bogus asylum seeker.

hargeysa and other areas of somaliland are safe to live. any iss'aq seeking asylum is a bogus asylum seeker .

bosaaso, garoowe, galkacyo etce are safe place to live. any majeerten seeking asylum is a bogus asylum seeker.

gedo, awduwaq and all mareexan areas are safe any, mareexan seeking asylum is a bogus asylum seeker (well with the exception of those who flew with bare)

hiraan is safe. xawaadles are bogus asylum seekers.

sujuus are bogus asylum seekers.

djboutians are bogus asylum seekers

We should all be thanksfull to reer xamar cad cad, the mushungulis you used to enslave and the rest of the minorities tribes. rather than accusing others of what you and your people have benefited from like everyone else why not seek means to unite somalis from all walks of life??

where is mureedi when you need him