IRAN FIRES THE WORLD'S FASTEST UNDERWATER MISSILE

[LionHeart-112]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060402/wl_ ... ssile_dc_1



Seriously, something is about to happen soon...check out the name of the war exercises during which this new technology was tested--Holy Prophet War Games..loooooooooool...

I saw the test on CNN and it was amazing walahi..

[gurey25]

Its a shkval 1970's Soviet technology that nobody ahs been able to reproduce or copy.

I hear the french of all people are the closest

anyway what the Iranians have tested is what everyone in the area from India, China, North Korea basicaly anybody who wants these goodies can contact the state arms dealer roosvorusionye.

and they have the old version that cannotslef navigate, and only goes in a straight line.

the other versions are not for sale.

[LionHeart-112]

The report says it's not based on the Russian Shkval.....I think the Russians sold them the technology and they improved on it..don't even say the russians wouldn't sell it because they would sell anything to any1...I mean, they are building nuclear facilities for Iran as we speak.

so you are saying they don't have this missile? I don't think they would have given the world visual aid if they didn't have the technology....It just seems that testing missile able to duck radar and the world's fastest missile underwater is a huge claim and wouldn't be a good idea unless you possess them.

[+chilli]

I don’t think they have it, just playing mind games with the US. Watch when they get attacked they’d sit back and get destroyed, and their president found in a hole.

[LionHeart-112]

Chilli


sit back and get destroyed? U must have lost your mind. They are not Arabs. These people actually have a backbone and even their atheists and secularists will fight to the death screaming "Allahu Akbar."...

You think Somalis are filled with pride till you meet persians. ....

The U.S would have attacked long time ago if it weren't for the fact that Iranians are known to unite when they are attacked, regardless of their beliefs....and of course their terrain doesn't hurt either.

[+chilli]

Before Iraq got invaded you’d have made the same comment. And US just haven’t come up with a clever enough reason(lie) to attack yet, and the Iranians are asking for it, I love the boldness of their president, but Sadam showed the same ego.

Their determination and inner strength isn’t going save them, at the end of the day US never comes alone. And the Middle East have to much pride to create unity.


But i hope your right and the US is scared of them...

[fagash_killer]

dumb iranians mark my words iran is doomed and what makes me so sad is their socalled arab brothers are right now working with the enemy it looks like its iran vs western gaalo countries if iran will be invaded and the arabs will just stand right their mark my words islam iyo wixii la sheeqay maa jiirto why else would you think palastenians agences are working with isreal i should had do the same

just read this part

Someday Israel would be Arab League’s member



There will not be any Arab-Israeli war in future. Moreover, someday the Arab League would admit the Jews State as a member, and it would be treated better than some members like Somalia, Sudan and Djibouti. This isn’t a prophecy; it’s just my analysis and my point of view.

Some dictatorial regimes, like in Sudan, the tyrant Omar Al-Bashir and his parasites use the term Israel as political weapon against their opponents, since Israel is considered as a big enemy in Sudan, talking about it is a taboo and no Sudanese citizen is permitted to visit it. This prohibition is explicitly written in the passport with the phrase “all countries except Israel”. For this reason, there’s a psychological wall built between Sudan and Jews for years. This wall is even stronger and higher than those built in other Arab or Muslim countries.

During the civil war in southern Sudan the regime has accused the SPLA and John Garang in particular, that he had good relations with Israel. Recently, the regime and its parasites had a big campaign on government TV and pro-governmental mass media against the Darfur rebels, they accused them of getting arms from Israel, through Jordan. But they didn’t say anything about Jordan that has full diplomatic ties with Israel.

Mr. Sadiq Al-Mahdi, the Imam of the Ansar sect also has suffered from their poisoned arrows. He has been accused of having committed a great sin, because he shacked hand with Mr. Simon Peres, the leader of Israeli Labour Party. When they met in Madrid to attend an international conference. The hypocritical and opportunist regime of AL-INTIKAS (the setback) used this simple human attitude of Mr. Sadiq Al-Mahdi to get political benefits and to defame him, in order to make him lose his popularity among Ansar. Five months ago some of the regime’s supporters have asked for the death of Mr. Mahdi, because he publicly supported the UN´s resolution 1593, that gave green light to the ICC to trail the responsible of Darfur´s atrocities. (We remember always, Ganni, morgen and their colleagues)

This coward regimes and its accomplices only use this negative propaganda against the Sudanese who reject the tyrant Omar Al-Bashir´s atrocities in Darfur and in other parts of the country. But, they shut their mouths like hens and became deaf, blind and mute in front of their masters when they go to Egypt, Jordan, Mauritania, Tunisia, Morocco, Oman, Qatar, etc.

Egypt has cultural, economic and full diplomatic ties with Israel for twenty-six years, thanks to Camp David Accords, which permits it to recover the Sinai Peninsula. Moreover, last year USA, Israel and Egypt have signed a trade partnership to create Qualified Industrial Zones in Egypt, allowing for duty-free export to the USA of certain Egyptian goods that contain Israeli inputs.

Egypt received $815 million each year in economic assistance up to 1998. During the period from 1975-2001, cumulative USA aid to Egypt reached $24.7 billion, since it’s the second country in the world in receiving American aids, after Israel. Because the US consider Egypt stability is vital to Israel security, since Anwar Al-Sadat had signed with Menchem Begin in 1978 the Camp David Accords. But Mr. Sadat had paid a high price for his visit to Tel Aviv and for his signature of the Camp David Accords, because he has been considered a traitor by many Arabs and Egyptians. The Arab League Headquarters had been transferred to Tunis and many Arab countries withdrew their Ambassadors from Cairo. And in 1981 he’s been assassinated by some extremists. Nevertheless, his successor, Husni Mubarak followed his policy and even went further in improving the Israeli-Egyptian relations. Today Egypt is the best friend of Israel in the Middle East. But, Husni Mubark is not considered a traitor, neither by the hypocritical dictator of Sudan, Omar Al-Bashir who accused the Darfur rebels of having relations with Israel, without any evidences, nor by the rest of the Arab leaders.

Today, all Arab countries have full diplomatic ties with Egypt, the Arab League Headquarters had been transferred back to Cairo and Egypt is considered as the most important member of the League. Moreover, many Arab countries have established diplomatic and economic ties with Israel, such as Jordan, Mauritania, Qatar, Tunis, Oman, Morocco, etc. all these countries followed the same way that has been paved by the “traitor” Anwar Al-Sadat, twenty six years ago, why? Are they traitors like him or they’re just hypocrites? Was Sadat a traitor or a hero?

What’s the next country that will join the new Arab-Israeli League? Will Sudan someday join this League? Nothing is impossible, but I think it’ll be the last country to do so. Nevertheless, if Southern Sudan decided to secede, then I’m sure that it’ll establish diplomatic, economic, cultural and military ties with Israel like Egypt.

Someday, there will be an independent State called "Palestine" in the Middle East. There will be a Palestinian ambassador in Tel Aviv, many Palestinians will go to work in Israel and Israeli tourists will go on vacations to Palestine, they’ll "occupy" rooms in Gaza Strip’s hotels. The Palestinians will have better relations with the Jews State than with their brothers in the Arab League. Now, Morocco’s relations with European Community is stronger than its relations with the Arab world. Ten years after the declaration of the Palestinian State, Israel would ask formally to join Arab League, Egypt would support it and Israel will manage to be a member, invoking the blood relationship between Arabs and Hebrews as cousins and their destiny is to coexist and live in the same land.

Ten reasons make me believe that there will not be anymore Arab-Israeli war. I mean, Arab countries would never join together to fight against Israel:

1. The project of " Al-uma Al-a´rabia " (the great Arabic nation) based on the Arabic blood has been buried by Abdel Nasir's death and by the invasion of Iraq by the United States, independently of the future of Sadam Hussein. The Syrian regime is controlled by the "Ba´th" party (Arabic renaissance) party that based on the same ideology as Sadam´s Ba´th party, but it’ll not last for much time. Since the winds of democratization and freedom are blowing around the region will affect it seriously. The sudden and precipitated withdrawal of the Syrian troops from Lebanon is a clear indication that the regime is no longer capable to spread its ideology and influences outside Syria. And even inside the country political opponents are starting to demand democracy, and the regime is facing some difficulties from USA pressure.

The ethnic minorities in Arabic countries that live for long time as second class citizens, such as Kurds in Iraq and Syria, the Berbers in north African Arab countries and the different indigenous African ethnic groups that represent the majority of the population in Sudan and in Mauritania. All these ethnic groups have woken up and ask for their rights as citizens, demanding justice and equality for all, independently of their origin. Citizens of Arab origin have monopolized the power and the economy of these countries for centuries.

2. The Arab countries are no longer talking about the liberation of whole Palestine, forcing Israel to disappear. In fact, only some Palestinians groups who still fighting Israel. The rest of Arab countries are just watching them on TV from their sofas. They’ve changed their messages and their tones against Israel. No country of the Arab League call Israel " the Zionist enemy ". Even the Palestinians call Israeli troops "Quat al-ihtilal al-Israili" (Israeli occupant forces), and they’re no longer claiming territories that became part of Israel since 1948, they only claim those have been occupied after the so-called the Six-Day War in 1967 (Cis-Jordan, Gaza Strip and Jerusalem East). In 1948 Israelis were in a weak position, they were looking for the recognition of their new State that has been created inside Palestine, but the Palestinians and Arab countries have rejected their claims and denied to recognize it. Fifty seven years later, the equation has been inverted: today, the Palestinians are asking Israel to recognize their right to have their own State ( Palestine), but Israel is reluctant to do so.

3. The Arab League has left the embargo against products and commodities produced by Jews companies, like Coca Cola, Ford, etc. and many Jews companies have invested directly in many Arab countries. And, there’re many Arab leaders who want to have diplomatic ties with Israel; but they’re waiting for the proper moment to do it.

4. The Arabs have lost all the wars that they’ve had against Israel.

5. There’re many Palestinians who work against their own people, as Secret Agents, who works in favor of Israel’s Armed Forces. This is not any secret, because the Palestinian National Authority has already executed some of them. Others have escaped to Israel and they live under its protection. But, there aren’t any Jews who work in favor of the Palestinians as Secret Agent. Why? Why?

6. Israel has nuclear weapons arsenal and very advanced conventional arms. Moreover, it gets full support from US. I’m sure that, if Israel had lost the war against Arabs in 1948 and its existence as a State had been in danger, USA had not hesitated to use atomic bombs against Arab countries.

7. There isn’t any Arabic country that got nuclear weapon and if one of them managed to build a nuclear reactor so as to get atomic bombs, it couldn’t defend it from Israel’s Air Force. Sadam Husein couldn’t defend his nuclear reactor in 1981 and it’s been destroyed by Israeli planes. Conventional arms in Arab countries don’t bother Israel, because they’ve been bought from Israel’s friends: USA, the European Community, etc. and normally they used to use them against their own citizens and their Arabs neighbors.

8. The Arab world hasn’t got advanced technology in computer engineering, telecommunications, robotics, aeronautics, genetic engineering, etc. Therefore they will not be able to compete in the space, which will be vital for the national defense in the future. The advanced countries would use their technology to put satellites in the space and remote controlled planes so as to spy and control their enemies.

9. Nowadays, many Palestinians go to Israel to get their "bread", in spite of the critical situation between them; therefore, Palestinians will depend economically on Israel for long time. Even after their independence.

10. An Arabic proverb that’s very popular among pessimists, or perhaps realists, those who think that the Arab League is “good for nothing”, it says: Arabs have agreed that they would never reach any agreement

[gurey25]

Correction the Fajr-3 is a regular artillary rocket.
whats all the fuss about, all artilary rockets are supposed to be invisibale to radar becuase of thier speed and projectory.

this is a glorified katayusha

but the catch is that you have to be close to your target to use it.
the 230nm range is not feasble becuase after 20-30nm the radar systems of a US carrier group will locate you quite easily, and then you are finished.


this is all media hype.

now if i heard that they had this i would be ammused.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science ... 81166.html

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Lion
It doesn't matter how much pride they have or how tough or brave they are. They are at least a full generation behind the US in warfare technology. Their Army would be crushed in short order and they would do what the Iraqis have done, turn to insurgency. We probably can not install a government in Iran, but we could destroy the entire infrastrutre and seize and control the oil production capability leaving the Iranians totally destitute and starving.