Snet muslim members. what are your intentions?
Moderators: Moderators, Junior Moderators
Forum rules
This General Forum is for general discussions from daily chitchat to more serious discussions among Somalinet Forums members. Please do not use it as your Personal Message center (PM). If you want to contact a particular person or a group of people, please use the PM feature. If you want to contact the moderators, pls PM them. If you insist leaving a public message for the mods or other members, it will be deleted.
This General Forum is for general discussions from daily chitchat to more serious discussions among Somalinet Forums members. Please do not use it as your Personal Message center (PM). If you want to contact a particular person or a group of people, please use the PM feature. If you want to contact the moderators, pls PM them. If you insist leaving a public message for the mods or other members, it will be deleted.
Snet muslim members. what are your intentions?
without beating about the bushes and with all honnesty, this topic is trigered by Lh's post about Sandheer's islamic convictions/believes. puting the sister on the spot made me think about the intentions behind his Q. as musl;im brothers and sisters and fellow skinnies, we all visite this site for different reason. we joke about everything and anything. except islam; at least for us muslims. some have more knowledge of islam than others and isnce most members reside in the west, educated or not its only natural we will not agree on everything regardless of the subject. even when it comes to our beautiful faith and mainly the Q about what role islam should play in our dayly affairs.
i'll admit am one of those member who's islamic knowledge is basic, which is why i try to stay clear of discussion concerning the holly Qur'an. but one thing i have always been more certain of than anything else, is how important intentions are in islam. every single step and act is driven by intention.
its a comon knowledge that we have muslims who have turned away from islam, (in this site) and not to mention those with multy nicks; so if i have a seriouse concerne about a members islamic convictions or any misgivings, shouldnt my main priority be to ask the brother/sister in question wiuthout belittling them or puting them on the spot?
even if the person seem to be changing some of his/her opinion on certain islamic teachings, then shouldnt our duty be to share whatever it is that they missed without any hidden agenda or petty grievance?
but most importantly, whats so wrong about a brother/sister having doubt or questions as long as those questions are genuin and not to score a point?
couple of months ago a friend gave me a book called...Al-Ahkam as-Sultaniyyah,...The laws of Islamic Governance...by: Abu'l-Hasan al-Mawardi.
i never managed to finish reading the whole book, and from what little i understood concerning the workings of Islamic governance as well as the nature of that governance made me more suspicious. suspicious about muslims who pay lip-service about the importance of the shari'a and the establishment of an islamic state, when in reality they cant insure or uphold some of the most fundamental values and teachings of islam.
eventhough the book is too deep (to say the least) for my limited knowledge of islam, it made me doubt and question the posibility of implementing the sharia correctly and without prejudice. especialy in a time where the muslim umma is closely scrutinized by the west and not to mention the division and mistrust amongst muslims themselves.
Ps..thsi is not an attack on anyone and if sandheer is in fact DD; the i still stand by what i say..after all i aint no sherlock holmes.
i'll admit am one of those member who's islamic knowledge is basic, which is why i try to stay clear of discussion concerning the holly Qur'an. but one thing i have always been more certain of than anything else, is how important intentions are in islam. every single step and act is driven by intention.
its a comon knowledge that we have muslims who have turned away from islam, (in this site) and not to mention those with multy nicks; so if i have a seriouse concerne about a members islamic convictions or any misgivings, shouldnt my main priority be to ask the brother/sister in question wiuthout belittling them or puting them on the spot?
even if the person seem to be changing some of his/her opinion on certain islamic teachings, then shouldnt our duty be to share whatever it is that they missed without any hidden agenda or petty grievance?
but most importantly, whats so wrong about a brother/sister having doubt or questions as long as those questions are genuin and not to score a point?
couple of months ago a friend gave me a book called...Al-Ahkam as-Sultaniyyah,...The laws of Islamic Governance...by: Abu'l-Hasan al-Mawardi.
i never managed to finish reading the whole book, and from what little i understood concerning the workings of Islamic governance as well as the nature of that governance made me more suspicious. suspicious about muslims who pay lip-service about the importance of the shari'a and the establishment of an islamic state, when in reality they cant insure or uphold some of the most fundamental values and teachings of islam.
eventhough the book is too deep (to say the least) for my limited knowledge of islam, it made me doubt and question the posibility of implementing the sharia correctly and without prejudice. especialy in a time where the muslim umma is closely scrutinized by the west and not to mention the division and mistrust amongst muslims themselves.
Ps..thsi is not an attack on anyone and if sandheer is in fact DD; the i still stand by what i say..after all i aint no sherlock holmes.
I have read San dheer' s thread that was started by Gayheart. I 'm extreemly annoyed by that individual. Who does he think he is to appoint who is a good muslim and who isn' t?. Who made him incharge of that task here on somalinet?. Acudubillah, he even called me an atheist a couple of times. He has even recruited a couple of lap dogs here and there
.

Biko
Great post bro, and you are obsolutely correct. The problem lies that we have no room for disagreements, or differing opinions. And once that happens, we react very badly, contrary to the teachings of Islam. We like others to conform how we view things.
On the other hand, every Muslim should perform Sharia Laws in their daily lives (the problem here is that we only think sharia Laws are the punishment component of law and order in Islam, huduud laws. That is only a fraction of the over-all Sharia Laws). In the individul realm, Sharia Laws are not only our daily prayers or fasting Ramadan, but to be a comprehensive decent and honourable Muslim. It is also how we deal with society, family and the environment in every day walk of life. We think that Sharia Laws applies only to a populations living in Muslim states. No, Sharia Laws should be applied in our daily lives and we have to live our lives according to the teachings of Isam, and that is a phenemenon and the beauty of it. Let us ask ourselves do we live accordingly to those individualised Sharia Laws? Nope, we talk about state sanctioned Sharia Laws enforced by the whip of a Muttawac, and while we can't live accordingly, we wish only for the others, that is an oxymoron may I say. For example, (strictly to illustrate an example no pun intended to anyone in particular) someone will agree with a post which argues that eating pasta is Haraam according to Sharia Laws, and in h/her next post, it will be about how h/she loves eating ravioli. It is comical.
I strongly believe that as long as someone calls h/herself a Muslim, and agrees with fundamentals of Islam, no one has any right to call them less of a Muslim. We should encourage, teach and support each other, other than that, I advice others to ignore such gimmicks from those who think they have an Islamic license to harrass, insult and demean others.
Great post bro, and you are obsolutely correct. The problem lies that we have no room for disagreements, or differing opinions. And once that happens, we react very badly, contrary to the teachings of Islam. We like others to conform how we view things.
On the other hand, every Muslim should perform Sharia Laws in their daily lives (the problem here is that we only think sharia Laws are the punishment component of law and order in Islam, huduud laws. That is only a fraction of the over-all Sharia Laws). In the individul realm, Sharia Laws are not only our daily prayers or fasting Ramadan, but to be a comprehensive decent and honourable Muslim. It is also how we deal with society, family and the environment in every day walk of life. We think that Sharia Laws applies only to a populations living in Muslim states. No, Sharia Laws should be applied in our daily lives and we have to live our lives according to the teachings of Isam, and that is a phenemenon and the beauty of it. Let us ask ourselves do we live accordingly to those individualised Sharia Laws? Nope, we talk about state sanctioned Sharia Laws enforced by the whip of a Muttawac, and while we can't live accordingly, we wish only for the others, that is an oxymoron may I say. For example, (strictly to illustrate an example no pun intended to anyone in particular) someone will agree with a post which argues that eating pasta is Haraam according to Sharia Laws, and in h/her next post, it will be about how h/she loves eating ravioli. It is comical.

I strongly believe that as long as someone calls h/herself a Muslim, and agrees with fundamentals of Islam, no one has any right to call them less of a Muslim. We should encourage, teach and support each other, other than that, I advice others to ignore such gimmicks from those who think they have an Islamic license to harrass, insult and demean others.
-
- SomaliNet Heavyweight
- Posts: 1423
- Joined: Sat Nov 19, 2005 8:46 pm
- Location: And you are asking... Why?
i haven't read that topic in question. If someone does make an honest mistake, or if someone sees something from another perspective, you should respect that, instead of slamming their faces in it. Remember your adab when in the presence of non-Muslims, as well as when amongst your own. Remember, honey attract more bees than vinegar.
Personally, If i find a Muslim who has different views, I dont say , " you are ignorant, kafir, faseq, fajer " . I research and study his point of view to make sure that I'm following the right path and increase my knowledge. I don't care what people belief as long they don't rub it into my face. I practice to each to their own

Personally, If i find a Muslim who has different views, I dont say , " you are ignorant, kafir, faseq, fajer " . I research and study his point of view to make sure that I'm following the right path and increase my knowledge. I don't care what people belief as long they don't rub it into my face. I practice to each to their own

- LionHeart-112
- SomaliNet Super
- Posts: 17794
- Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:53 pm
- Location: Not yet determined
Our Deen is under attack by individuals masquerading as Muslims. I have made it my job to expose hypocrites and kaafirs. I dunno what this topic is about my sole intention is to defend my faith against those who harbor ill feelings toward it. Of course, you are all free to do whatever you like. In the end, Allah (swt) will judge us all.
- LionHeart-112
- SomaliNet Super
- Posts: 17794
- Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:53 pm
- Location: Not yet determined
[quote="LaDy-Qac"]I have read San dheer' s thread that was started by Gayheart. I 'm extreemly annoyed by that individual. Who does he think he is to appoint who is a good muslim and who isn' t?. Who made him incharge of that task here on somalinet?. Acudubillah, he even called me an atheist a couple of times. He has even recruited a couple of lap dogs here and there
.[/quote]
You have made it very clear here that you are willing to take the side of a munaafiq (probably kaafir since it's DD) just because you and i have exchanced few negative words. Masha'Allah. The kaafirs on Snet have an ending supply of encouragement and support from so-called Muslims. You know, you and i can have our own disagreement and make up in the end because we are brother and sister in Islam..But there is no need to call me names like homosexual...Keep up the good work.

You have made it very clear here that you are willing to take the side of a munaafiq (probably kaafir since it's DD) just because you and i have exchanced few negative words. Masha'Allah. The kaafirs on Snet have an ending supply of encouragement and support from so-called Muslims. You know, you and i can have our own disagreement and make up in the end because we are brother and sister in Islam..But there is no need to call me names like homosexual...Keep up the good work.
-
- SomaliNetizen
- Posts: 637
- Joined: Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:50 pm
- Location: West midlands
- Contact:
Yaah aahluuu dhilooyin
Islamic teaching are clear, you either got to accept it or fcu1cking face our belittlement and face allah soon.
It is clear whether you like it what lion heart said it or not.
If you have been asked to cover your pu1ssy then there is no interpretation when to cover your fu1cking pu1ssy and how to cover your pu1ssy.
Not with a thong (and bikini lines) but with hijab!!!!!!
stupid somali girls with 2 faces.
They like to have bastar1ds and fornicate with their step dads.
And want to interpret islamic.
Somali dhiloyin.. keep on shaming us.
Your are not the first one (Ayan hirsi was) and you won't be the last.
Ayan hirsi has interpreted that you can fornicate while praying your salat.
So therefore awrbaah awrkeesso horay iyuu soockessa leehyahay..
Islamic teaching are clear, you either got to accept it or fcu1cking face our belittlement and face allah soon.
It is clear whether you like it what lion heart said it or not.
If you have been asked to cover your pu1ssy then there is no interpretation when to cover your fu1cking pu1ssy and how to cover your pu1ssy.
Not with a thong (and bikini lines) but with hijab!!!!!!
stupid somali girls with 2 faces.
They like to have bastar1ds and fornicate with their step dads.
And want to interpret islamic.
Somali dhiloyin.. keep on shaming us.
Your are not the first one (Ayan hirsi was) and you won't be the last.
Ayan hirsi has interpreted that you can fornicate while praying your salat.
So therefore awrbaah awrkeesso horay iyuu soockessa leehyahay..
- LionHeart-112
- SomaliNet Super
- Posts: 17794
- Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:53 pm
- Location: Not yet determined
The Don....It's a shame walahi that we have so many weak-minded brothers and sisters who have become brainwashed after watching too much western media propaganda. And th sad thing is that these are the older ones who should be leading our people....The young ones (in the u.k forum) are staunch defenders of Islam! Alhamdulillah.
-
- SomaliNetizen
- Posts: 637
- Joined: Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:50 pm
- Location: West midlands
- Contact:
it is true wallahee!!!
In my local neighbourhood we have these young 20s and under somali boys who proudly show their islamic and somalinimo style.
Wallahee the beard, white hat, and khamis (at the weekends) have become the style in my neighbourhood.
We have the other lot of over 25, who chew day and nigth and argue about somaliland, putland and sometimes about islamic politics.
In my local neighbourhood we have these young 20s and under somali boys who proudly show their islamic and somalinimo style.
Wallahee the beard, white hat, and khamis (at the weekends) have become the style in my neighbourhood.
We have the other lot of over 25, who chew day and nigth and argue about somaliland, putland and sometimes about islamic politics.
- LionHeart-112
- SomaliNet Super
- Posts: 17794
- Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:53 pm
- Location: Not yet determined
-
- Similar Topics
- Replies
- Views
- Last post
-
- 38 Replies
- 2833 Views
-
Last post by stormy
-
- 8 Replies
- 869 Views
-
Last post by SummerRain
-
- 6 Replies
- 772 Views
-
Last post by Methylamine
-
- 38 Replies
- 3038 Views
-
Last post by Keyblade
-
- 28 Replies
- 1489 Views
-
Last post by lost-chick
-
- 6 Replies
- 806 Views
-
Last post by waayeel101
-
- 16 Replies
- 1607 Views
-
Last post by Shirib
-
- 8 Replies
- 1046 Views
-
Last post by EASTSIDE-05
-
- 26 Replies
- 2020 Views
-
Last post by west_london_youngster
-
- 19 Replies
- 1411 Views
-
Last post by InoCabdi