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mocking other muslims bcoz they are religiously committed

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:41 pm
by *Somali-chick*
A/salam all

Ya ukhatees wa akhees, do you know that if you make fun of those who are religiously-committed, insulting them and mocking them, you are in a serious danger, and that these actions may put you beyond the pale of Islam? Eiitaquulallah-fear Allah (swt) Exclamation

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked about the ruling on making fun of those who adhere to the commandments of Allaah and His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)?

He replied: Making fun of those who adhere to the commandments of Allaah and His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) because of their commitment is haraam and is very dangerous and serious, because there is the fear that his hatred for them may be based on hatred of what they are adhering to, namely the religion of Allaah. In that case mocking them is mocking the path that they are following. They are like those of whom Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“If you ask them (about this), they declare: ‘We were only talking idly and joking.’ Say: ‘Was it at Allaah, and His Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) and His Messenger that you were mocking?”

Make no excuse; you disbelieved after you had believed’”

[al-Tawbah 9:65-66]

These words were revealed concerning some of the hypocrites who said: “We have never seen anything like these reciters – meaning the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and his companions – they are the most greedy, the most false of speech and the most cowardly in battle.” Then Allaah revealed this verse concerning them.

Those who make fun of the followers of truth because they are religiously-committed should beware, for Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Verily, (during the worldly life) those who committed crimes used to laugh at those who believed.

30. And, whenever they passed by them, used to wink one to another (in mockery).

31. And when they returned to their own people, they would return jesting;

32. And when they saw them, they said: ‘Verily, these have indeed gone astray!’

33. But they (disbelievers, sinners) had not been sent as watchers over them (the believers).

34. But this Day (the Day of Resurrection) those who believe will laugh at the disbelievers

35. On (high) thrones, looking (at all things).

36. Are not the disbelievers paid (fully) for what they used to do?”

[al-Mutaffifeen 83:29-36]

Majmoo’ Fataawa al-Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, 2/question no. 236.

Insulting a Muslim is a major sin, especially if one insults him for being religiously committed and righteous. There is the fear that the one who does this may fall into apostasy as stated above with regard to mocking them.

It was narrated from ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mas’ood (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Insulting a Muslim is immorality and killing him is kufr.”

Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 48; Muslim, 64.

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:50 pm
by QansaGabeyle
Thanks for the advice. But what made you post this? Did you someone talking crap about and mocking good practising muslims?

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:50 pm
by *Somali-chick*
Insulting a Muslim for no reason is haraam according to the consensus of the ummah, so the one who does that is a faasiq as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said.

You have some somalinet members who misuse the word "jihad" in order to insult and mock at the True Believers in Allah (swt), being no different to the kaafiruuns Exclamation

When Galol and the rest of these kaafirs insult our faith, everyone jumps and starts insulting them, why don't you take a look at yourselves ya ukhatees wa akhees Question You insult and make fun of your religion more than these kaafirs do Exclamation Fear Allah (swt) Exclamation whenever i come here, i see nothing but insults towards our beautiful religion, not only from the kaafirs, but from the muslims here as well Exclamation

may He guide us all back to the rite path and forgive us our sins

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:53 pm
by *Somali-chick*
[quote="QansaGabeyle"]Thanks for the advice. But what made you post this? Did you someone talking crap about and mocking good practising muslims?[/quote]

go read the threads made by some of the members here concerning "jihad", read Mowhawks thread where he "sacartiscally" tells the cyber jihadist to go to Iraq, etc.

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:57 pm
by QansaGabeyle
What exactly about that thread bothered you?

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:06 pm
by *Somali-chick*
the sacarsism and mocking tone of his thread, go read yourselve Exclamation

it's not only him, read this thread http://www.somalinet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=59474

it's really sad to see muslims mocking other muslims bcoz of what they are doing/do n bcoz of their religious commitment Exclamation

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:12 pm
by *Somali-chick*
another example http://www.somalinet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=60007

may Allah (swt) guide us to the rite path, amin Exclamation

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:23 pm
by QansaGabeyle
Those are just alcoholics that fear that they will not be able to drink anymore if a ruling system similar to that of the taliban is implemented in Somalia. They are frustrated by the new developements taking place in Mogdishu.

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 8:43 pm
by Mowhawk
[quote="*Somali-chick*"][quote="QansaGabeyle"]Thanks for the advice. But what made you post this? Did you someone talking crap about and mocking good practising muslims?[/quote]

go read the threads made by some of the members here concerning "jihad", read Mowhawks thread where he "sacartiscally" tells the cyber jihadist to go to Iraq, etc.[/quote]

Somali chick

Thanks sister for the reminder, and if you were offended by that topic, I apologize unreservedly. Wink LionHeart who loves all trashy American sitcoms and tele-series was annoying me, and I posted that to motivate him. I got my own Jihaad to fight, to be a better human. May Allah help me achieve that. Amiin.

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 8:53 pm
by smooth
Canab Afdeerey what happen to your old Nick ?

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:52 pm
by LionHeart-112
[quote="smooth"]Canab Afdeerey what happen to your old Nick ?[/quote]




You are obsessed with that girl. Can't you find men to fight? Must you go after girls all the time. Every1 knows Somali Chich is from Australia, fuccing moron. Laughing Laughing

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:53 pm
by The rebel
I hope I'm not one of those mocking on other Muslims though I disagree with every one accept my self Laughing Laughing

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:57 pm
by LionHeart-112
^^u are too sweet to mock any1. What i like about you and Mowhawk is that you can never mock or diss any1. It's like a retarded kid with special needs. They can never offend you. Even when they misbehave, you can't help but pity and smile at them. Smile

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:00 pm
by The rebel
^^Shut up now. How is that now Laughing Laughing

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:05 pm
by LionHeart-112
^^oh that was sooooooooooo cute walahi. U know like when a kid throws a tantrum. Even though u just wanna shake till their brains get smushed up, u can't help but notice how cute they look.. Very Happy