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^Well isnt it bit to late? I know the islamist figure in Somalia were always powerful than the warlord or any head figure. They watched innocent people being slayed in the streets of mogadishu for 16 years. What makes them any differ from the warlord? Arent they going to impose harsh rules and laws against the somalis?
[quote="Cool*Rush"]^Well isnt it bit to late? I know the islamist figure in Somalia were always powerful than the warlord or any head figure. They watched innocent people being slayed in the streets of mogadishu for 16 years. What makes them any differ from the warlord?[/quote]
Are you saying they are the cause for all the trouble the past 16 years? These courts were not even established 16 years ago nor have the leaders had any significant power to compare them to the warlords,. They have been operating for a few years.
When have they been more powerful then the warlords?
When members of the Islamic courts been teaching quran to the children, Having family members killed , they have been participating and organizing funerals.
Establising Islamic court bring peace in the areas where they lived and now when they expanded to other areas and got more support, your asking whats the difference between them and the warlords?
After all this you make them equivalent to the warlords who have killed their people abused their cities. I doesn't make sense to me.
Are you saying they are the cause for all the trouble the past 16 years? These courts were not even established 16 years ago nor have the leaders had any significant power to compare them to the warlords,. They have been operating for a few years.
When have they been more powerful then the warlords?
When members of the Islamic courts been teaching quran to the children, Having family members killed , they have been participating and organizing funerals.
Establising Islamic court bring peace in the areas where they lived and now when they expanded to other areas and got more support, your asking whats the difference between them and the warlords?
After all this you make them equivalent to the warlords who have killed their people abused their cities. I doesn't make sense to me.
[quote="Cool*Rush"]Just know this the islamic court will impose harsh laws against the somali people. Which i believe will make them distance from the islamic court.These people have been throught hell and came back from it. What we need is a leadership not what some old dude say so....[/quote]
Are you muslims? Sorry Just asking it because there are some atheist in this forum.
First of All the main Objective of the Court is to Implement Islamic law with the support of the community. Islamic Law is well documented and people know what it is all about. If a Muslim does not agree with the Islamic law, Whats the point of Being a muslim. Whether you consider it harsh or not it’s what every Muslim has agreed to live by.
My second point, Islamic law is not something what “some old dude†say, Its law based on whats been recorded in the Quran and Hadith. But the man made law is something some old dude says.
99.9999% of Somalis are muslims so therefore I consider this as the only solution for real peace in Somalia and in other muslim countries.
Are you muslims? Sorry Just asking it because there are some atheist in this forum.
First of All the main Objective of the Court is to Implement Islamic law with the support of the community. Islamic Law is well documented and people know what it is all about. If a Muslim does not agree with the Islamic law, Whats the point of Being a muslim. Whether you consider it harsh or not it’s what every Muslim has agreed to live by.
My second point, Islamic law is not something what “some old dude†say, Its law based on whats been recorded in the Quran and Hadith. But the man made law is something some old dude says.
99.9999% of Somalis are muslims so therefore I consider this as the only solution for real peace in Somalia and in other muslim countries.
Say what--I hope you meant that as i joke. Why in the world would i want to be an atheist when i know there is Allah. Just because i find what the extremeist are doing is wrong dont not make me an atheist.
I have nothing against islamic law as long as they dont practice what the talibans did in Afganistan.
Well it's based on what an old man said so. They interpret the Quran into their own style(which is wrong to do so) and use it against the people.
I have nothing against islamic law as long as they dont practice what the talibans did in Afganistan.
Well it's based on what an old man said so. They interpret the Quran into their own style(which is wrong to do so) and use it against the people.
They are going to after your darood president say what they going to baydhabo the somali parlament orderd foreign troops the biggest war in the horn has started today.
Any way about the kuran its for every for every centry for every year for every milemniuim but the kuran after every centry it has a diffrent meaning becous time chang but the kuran doesent change thats what so special about the kuran like maida just read it means a diffrent thing every centry when every batlle muslim had they succeeded becous of the kuran
Any way about the kuran its for every for every centry for every year for every milemniuim but the kuran after every centry it has a diffrent meaning becous time chang but the kuran doesent change thats what so special about the kuran like maida just read it means a diffrent thing every centry when every batlle muslim had they succeeded becous of the kuran
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Xplosive_playa
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[quote="Xplosive_playa"]very interesting topic......i can see some peoples arguments!!
check this...............if somali is gonna b under sharia law....then why do we need a prime minister or president??
secondly.......how come the so called somali goverment are asking for foreign troops??[/quote]
In Islam there is something called Caliphate, We are meant to have Leaders.....Its not haram to have presidents, During the prophets time we have had leaders who were delegated responsibility of the ummah and authority.
The government, They are Idiots, These arguments regarding the foreign troops has been going on for about 2 years, And now the majority of the Parliament supports it. Out of the 199 members of parliament that were present 125 voted for “ciidamo nabad ilaalinâ€Â.
Its sad, No foreign with weapons should enter Somalia if you ask me. That’s my opinion..
check this...............if somali is gonna b under sharia law....then why do we need a prime minister or president??
secondly.......how come the so called somali goverment are asking for foreign troops??[/quote]
In Islam there is something called Caliphate, We are meant to have Leaders.....Its not haram to have presidents, During the prophets time we have had leaders who were delegated responsibility of the ummah and authority.
The government, They are Idiots, These arguments regarding the foreign troops has been going on for about 2 years, And now the majority of the Parliament supports it. Out of the 199 members of parliament that were present 125 voted for “ciidamo nabad ilaalinâ€Â.
Its sad, No foreign with weapons should enter Somalia if you ask me. That’s my opinion..
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Xplosive_playa
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aight heres my opinion....................who elected these so called president or prime minister???
secondly.......i saw the killing commited by the 16yr old boy on the person who killed his father.......now i thought that was tooooo brutal........now countries like saudi arabia and kuwait have sharia law but wen the execute some1 the cut their head off.....................so why was the boy allowed to savagely kill the guy!!
the other point is...............the killin was witnessed by over 700 people. the person that got killed was from a small minority clan!!
had this be some1 from abgaal clan.........would they have carried it out like that??......................i dnt tink so!!
secondly.......i saw the killing commited by the 16yr old boy on the person who killed his father.......now i thought that was tooooo brutal........now countries like saudi arabia and kuwait have sharia law but wen the execute some1 the cut their head off.....................so why was the boy allowed to savagely kill the guy!!
the other point is...............the killin was witnessed by over 700 people. the person that got killed was from a small minority clan!!
had this be some1 from abgaal clan.........would they have carried it out like that??......................i dnt tink so!!
[quote="Cool*Rush"]Say what--I hope you meant that as i joke. Why in the world would i want to be an atheist when i know there is Allah. Just because i find what the extremeist are doing is wrong dont not make me an atheist.
I have nothing against islamic law as long as they dont practice what the talibans did in Afganistan.
Well it's based on what an old man said so. They interpret the Quran into their own style(which is wrong to do so) and use it against the people.[/quote]
Who are the extremist? Is a person extremist because they fear Allah? Only the Western media call a religions person extremist, It’s a shame you have adopted their propaganda. Do you think it’s wrong fighting the Warlords?
The Islamic court has not shown any sign of misinterpreting the Quran, Who are the experts and knowledgeable people in this field, Shacabka soomaaliyeed or the Court?
That’s typical American arguments to tried stop Islamic law, Saying that the misinterpret it and for that reason no country should have Islamic law?
Like I said before every Muslim has agreed to live by those laws, I don't Understand why some somalis are afried of it..
Why are you so skeptic towards Islamic law?
I have nothing against islamic law as long as they dont practice what the talibans did in Afganistan.
Well it's based on what an old man said so. They interpret the Quran into their own style(which is wrong to do so) and use it against the people.[/quote]
Who are the extremist? Is a person extremist because they fear Allah? Only the Western media call a religions person extremist, It’s a shame you have adopted their propaganda. Do you think it’s wrong fighting the Warlords?
The Islamic court has not shown any sign of misinterpreting the Quran, Who are the experts and knowledgeable people in this field, Shacabka soomaaliyeed or the Court?
That’s typical American arguments to tried stop Islamic law, Saying that the misinterpret it and for that reason no country should have Islamic law?
Like I said before every Muslim has agreed to live by those laws, I don't Understand why some somalis are afried of it..
Why are you so skeptic towards Islamic law?
[quote="Xplosive_playa"]aight heres my opinion....................who elected these so called president or prime minister???
secondly.......i saw the killing commited by the 16yr old boy on the person who killed his father.......now i thought that was tooooo brutal........now countries like saudi arabia and kuwait have sharia law but wen the execute some1 the cut their head off.....................so why was the boy allowed to savagely kill the guy!!
the other point is...............the killin was witnessed by over 700 people. the person that got killed was from a small minority clan!!
had this be some1 from abgaal clan.........would they have carried it out like that??......................i dnt tink so!![/quote]
1. As far as I know Every Qabil have a set number of seats in the parliament and each qabil vote for who in their qabil deserves to be in the parliament, Then the member of parliaments choose who will be prime minister and president. That’s how I think it is…
2.
In sharia a killer should be killed the same way he killed the person. When he stabbed the boys father did the boys father choose how he wanted to be killed?
There is a hadith of a man who throw stone at the girl and she died, the people told the prophet and he said, punish him the way he killed the girl. I can provide you with that hadith, I don’t have it now…
Saudi Arabia lack a lot of Islamic laws tho….
3. Yes, The killer was from a minority so was the person who was killed, If you want to talk Islamic law, Then do not go away from the boundaries of the case. He killed someone and as punishment he got killed. That’s that Islamic law say.
My second point is the Islamic court that executed the man is a court with little resources and not able to do much, In this case they did something based on their capacity and of course based on Sharia. A local teacher was stabbed several times by another local man, They then found the man who committed the crime.. that’s the case.
Now If you want to talk about abgaal, They are a powerful and militant tribe, They probably would defended their clan members if he would do such thing, In this case would the Court be capable of handling this? I doubt that, you have to take this into consideration before making it a Qabil issue.
Every incident that happens must be reported by to the court, In many cases people from minority clans do no report it because they know that their family members my be killed if the court finds the killer and executes him.
I’ll give you an example that happened to a relative recently. My fathers cousin he was a habar gidir businessman in Xamar, he got killed and robbed by another habar gidir who works for one of the warlords, My fathers other cousins did not report this because the killer is from a militant group which have no Human respect even though the are from the same Sub-clan,
My thired point, Regarding What the court did to that guy who was from a minority. Who benefited from that? My answer, The guy who got executed benefit, Why? He toke the Islamic punishment for a crime he committed. If he did not take this punishment in this earth he would face a bigger punishment hereafter.
I hope you get my point…..
secondly.......i saw the killing commited by the 16yr old boy on the person who killed his father.......now i thought that was tooooo brutal........now countries like saudi arabia and kuwait have sharia law but wen the execute some1 the cut their head off.....................so why was the boy allowed to savagely kill the guy!!
the other point is...............the killin was witnessed by over 700 people. the person that got killed was from a small minority clan!!
had this be some1 from abgaal clan.........would they have carried it out like that??......................i dnt tink so!![/quote]
1. As far as I know Every Qabil have a set number of seats in the parliament and each qabil vote for who in their qabil deserves to be in the parliament, Then the member of parliaments choose who will be prime minister and president. That’s how I think it is…
2.
In sharia a killer should be killed the same way he killed the person. When he stabbed the boys father did the boys father choose how he wanted to be killed?
There is a hadith of a man who throw stone at the girl and she died, the people told the prophet and he said, punish him the way he killed the girl. I can provide you with that hadith, I don’t have it now…
Saudi Arabia lack a lot of Islamic laws tho….
3. Yes, The killer was from a minority so was the person who was killed, If you want to talk Islamic law, Then do not go away from the boundaries of the case. He killed someone and as punishment he got killed. That’s that Islamic law say.
My second point is the Islamic court that executed the man is a court with little resources and not able to do much, In this case they did something based on their capacity and of course based on Sharia. A local teacher was stabbed several times by another local man, They then found the man who committed the crime.. that’s the case.
Now If you want to talk about abgaal, They are a powerful and militant tribe, They probably would defended their clan members if he would do such thing, In this case would the Court be capable of handling this? I doubt that, you have to take this into consideration before making it a Qabil issue.
Every incident that happens must be reported by to the court, In many cases people from minority clans do no report it because they know that their family members my be killed if the court finds the killer and executes him.
I’ll give you an example that happened to a relative recently. My fathers cousin he was a habar gidir businessman in Xamar, he got killed and robbed by another habar gidir who works for one of the warlords, My fathers other cousins did not report this because the killer is from a militant group which have no Human respect even though the are from the same Sub-clan,
My thired point, Regarding What the court did to that guy who was from a minority. Who benefited from that? My answer, The guy who got executed benefit, Why? He toke the Islamic punishment for a crime he committed. If he did not take this punishment in this earth he would face a bigger punishment hereafter.
I hope you get my point…..
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