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Suzie when allah has said prophet mohammed PBUH is the final messanger and shia's say ali ra is supposed to have been a messenger what does that tell you? Why should we debate them. Kalamullah is final.

What does it tell me? It tells me that you are seriously ignorant. I suggest you re-read my ...

Insigne wrote:I am Zaydi Shia alxamdulilah.

12'er Shia are kuffar.

Why do you regard the Shia 12'er disbelievers?

And what is the difference between a Zaydi Shia and a 12'er Shia?

AgentOfChaos wrote:How I see most people in this thread "debating" with Suzie....

Allah s.w.t didn't send us Hussein or Abu Bakr but He sent us Prophet Muhammed{pbuh} with the Qur'an. He is our Leader. Focus on your own shortcomings instead of trying to find fault with people who are long dead.

That is a naive comment. We all know Allah (SWT) did not send us anyone other than ...

there is a lot went wrong historically, and only when you stop thinking of them as saints you will master your religion. do you thi k you are the first one ever try to analize history of early muslims? done and if you check them, you find your own veiws was presented million times through hunders ...

Suzie when allah has said prophet mohammed PBUH is the final messanger and shia's say ali ra is supposed to have been a messenger what does that tell you? Why should we debate them. Kalamullah is final.

What does it tell me? It tells me that you are seriously ignorant. I suggest you re-read my ...

Suzie this is for you. {Surah Al Baqarah:verse134}

تِلْكَ أُمَّةٌ قَدْ خَلَتْ لَهَا مَا كَسَبَتْ وَلَكُم مَّا كَسَبْتُمْ وَلاَ تُسْأَلُونَ عَمَّا كَانُوا يَعْمَلُو

Those are a people that have passed away, for them is that which they have earned, and for you is what you earn, and you shall not ...

Do you think its possible for you to become a shia muslim at some point in time? I ask you this because of your willingness to discuss shia'sm and also saying we should be open minded about this sect. if you are indeed a practising sunni, its a very strange topic to chose to be open minded about ...

alsahaba were human and they disagreed on political level and not religion issue. get over it all. no one will ask you their deeds.

Your are right no one will ask us about their deeds. However, the Sahaba is the example that we follow and derive our knowledge from and when their disagreements ...

Do you think its possible for you to become a shia muslim at some point in time? I ask you this because of your willingness to discuss shia'sm and also saying we should be open minded about this sect. if you are indeed a practising sunni, its a very strange topic to chose to be open minded about ...

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AhlulbaytSoldier wrote:When it comes to Yazid i say may Allah curse the killers of Imam Hussain a.s .

Did you just curse Yazid (radhiyalaahu canhu)?

"Radi Allahu 'anhu"

Sorry to bluntly put it but why would Allah (SWT) be pleased with the brutal murderer of the grandson of the Holy Prophet (SAW)

Sorry I have to delete almost all ahlubaytHutu posts. This idiot never participate any intellectual debates. I cannot allow vulgar attitude towards Shia or any other sect.

That's not good he had some valuable input.. a person should be allowed to express themselves this isn't China lol


He ...

Sorry I have to delete almost all ahlubaytHutu posts. This idiot never participate any intellectual debates. I cannot allow vulgar attitude towards Shia or any other sect.

That's not good he had some valuable input.. a person should be allowed to express themselves this isn't China lol


He ...

But after doing much research I'm left with a lot of unanswered questions

Anyway we as Muslims should be open minded and at least have the decency to educate ourselves before making judgements or spreading propaganda..

saacJabshee wrote:Okay then I dont want to be wrong. Can you confirm or deny?

A practising Sunni..