No political Islam

Steeler [Crawler2] · Post by **Steeler [Crawler2]** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:37 am

Since September 11th, ordinary Muslims have found themselves under intense and increasing pressure from both sides in the conflict. In the West, anyone of Muslim origin is likely to fall under suspicion; many have been harassed by the police or beaten up by thugs. Several mosques have been attacked. Yet any Muslim prepared to speak out against the terrorists is likely to find himself threatened by the hardliners increasingly in control in Muslim communities. Few Muslims have been prepared to argue with the fundamentalists.

In Iraq and Afghanistan following the American invasions things can hardly be said to have improved for the man in the street (the women of Iraq having joined their Afghani sisters in no longer daring to venture out on to the streets unveiled or unaccompanied). Rape is now a daily occurrence in Baghdad yet the security forces do nothing to make the streets safer for women and have simply ignored protests from womenÂ’s organizations, even banning demonstrations by women against the rising tide of rape and personal violence. The vacuum left by the defeat of the Baathists has been quickly filled by the Islamists.

In Afghanistan, any pretence that America was concerned to secure the human rights of the Afghani people is now seen as a hollow sham. The draft Constitution for Afghanistan calls for the reintroduction Islamic law Â– described as Â‘Taliban LiteÂ’ by one member of the US Committee for International Religious Freedom Â– with few of the safeguards demanded by international law or the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. And in Iraq, officials of the American administration have said that they see Â‘no problemÂ’ with Islam being recognized as the state religion. Where now the separation of religion and state, free thought and human rights?

It is against this background that the International Humanist and Ethical Union, IHEU, has decided to endorse and support the campaign Â‘NO to Political IslamÂ’, a campaign dedicated to championing the human rights of ordinary Muslims, men and women, and to freeing them from the tyranny of the Islamists.

IHEU supports freedom of belief and the separation of religion and state around the world. In Europe we campaign to keep references to God and special treatment for Christianity out of the European Constitution; in India to resist threats to the secular constitution; and worldwide against the power of the Vatican to deny reproductive health to countless millions of the worldÂ’s poorest women.

qudhac-m · Post by **qudhac-m** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:57 am

Mad

When are you going to take your shahada, and is this going to be your first Haj among many to come.

Steeler [Crawler2] · Post by **Steeler [Crawler2]** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:38 am

When pigs fly by my office window and hell freezes over, I will take Shahada.

Steeler [Crawler2] · Post by **Steeler [Crawler2]** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:38 am

Unless Musliima and three of her friends offer to become my four wives and sock me off every night...........in which case I would have to seriously consider it.

R.I.P Kiyan · Post by **R.I.P Kiyan** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:47 am

Mad Mac needs to get laid

Mowhawk · Post by **Mowhawk** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:47 am

Political Islam? What is that Mad? Do we all have to convert to the political Christian Right view of the world, where George W. Bush said that God talked to him to wage wars all over the globe?

Did you hear or read Kofi Anan's recent speech?

Cheroke · Post by **Cheroke** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:59 am

[quote="MAD MAC"]Unless Musliima and three of her friends offer to become my four wives and sock me off every night...........in which case I would have to seriously consider it.[/quote]

Not funny man, you don't want this thread hijacked, afterwards deleted, Keep it G rated.

For the first time, you're seeing things from a muslim perspective, rather than perceiving it from one point of view.

"t is against this background that the International Humanist and Ethical Union, IHEU, has decided to endorse and support the campaign Â‘NO to Political IslamÂ’, a campaign dedicated to championing the human rights of ordinary Muslims, men and women, and to freeing them from the tyranny of the Islamists."

This paragraph through me off, what are you suggesting ? becuase its quite obvious where its headed.

Steeler [Crawler2] · Post by **Steeler [Crawler2]** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:07 am

It was definately funny. Are you saying Mosliima is not willing to engage in positive jihad to win converts?? Laughing

As for where this is going, I thought it was perfectly clear. Religion, be it Islam, Christianity, Judaism, whatever, belongs in the domaine of the private. In the public domaine, religion should play no part.

Mowhawk · Post by **Mowhawk** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:22 am

[quote="MAD MAC"]It was definately funny. Are you saying Mosliima is not willing to engage in positive jihad to win converts?? Laughing

As for where this is going, I thought it was perfectly clear. Religion, be it Islam, Christianity, Judaism, whatever, belongs in the domaine of the private. In the public domaine, religion should play no part.[/quote]

Mad

If you believe that, as a soldier, do you ever question, why am I fighting for a president like George Bush who says that God talks to him to wage wars? Extremism have two sides.

Steeler [Crawler2] · Post by **Steeler [Crawler2]** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:27 am

Mohawk
I don't fight for George Bush or any other president. I fight for my brothers in arms. You see, for me, it's all about the fight itself. It's never about the cause. I could care less why I am sent to fight. I am concerned about when, where and always how much.

Mosliima · Post by **Mosliima** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:27 am

[quote="MAD MAC"]Unless Musliima and three of her friends offer to become my four wives and sock me off every night...........in which case I would have to seriously consider it.[/quote]

Laughing

like you got a d* to sock... why dont you sock for olga's dildo

dream on............go Olga is waiting for ya A$$

Sir-Luggoyo · Post by **Sir-Luggoyo** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:38 am

Mad Cow

You don't need to know why a war is started cause you are void of thinking and reasoning, you are just a simple robot programmed to take orders and fullfill them to the max or die trying.

zulaika · Post by **zulaika** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:27 pm

[quote="MAD MAC"]When pigs fly by my office window and hell freezes over, I will take Shahada.[/quote]

last i checked there was a frozen hell...i believe it was called zamhariira. as for the first one. i think white folks flying in airplane might suffice that one. Laughing

so mad, i think the bases are covered here so what say u?.... c'mon take the shahada for petes sake. Very Happy

karkaar · Post by **karkaar** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:46 pm

Mad mac is taiwanese american who thinks he's white.. Laughing

Steeler [Crawler2] · Post by **Steeler [Crawler2]** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:55 am

Lug
Preferable, I suppose, to Islamic thinking, which is moronic and incomprehesible.