BLACK & WHITE OR SHADES OF GREY?

[Niya]

^^ I know Ibrahim Caddow is educated, but where does he lean religion wise is he moderate or conservative?

[AbdiWahab252]

Niya, he is a moderate and not a self righteous extremist.

That being said, I consider him to be an idiot who actually thinks he can get the UIC of the radical path.

Caddow is sort of like Khatami, reformist who believed he could reform Iran only to be shown the door by the true powers that be, the Hardline conservatives

[X.Playa]

Galool,

Oday miyaad soo waalanysaa horta , anuu walee waan kula yaabanay waayadane, waar Secualrism iyo balaayaaad ka hadlaysaa, Xabashina waxay doonayaan inay Cabdulaahi Yuusuf iyo Buqland somalia oo dhan gacanta u galiyaan....

Ninyow riyada ka toos waad danbaysaaye... at this speed Southern somalia will fall under Puqland and Afbiijo within a month and Ethopia and the USA will force all somalia under Buqland.. and you are talking about some schloastic mumbo jumbo.

[Gedo_Boy]

[quote="AbdiWahab252"]GedoBoy: U sound like Ibrahim Caddow but too bad he is a MINoRITY in the UIC. You have jahiil like Indocaade making the threats and policy for the UIC.[/quote]


AW,

My family knew Ibrahim Cadow pretty well since I was a kid, we lived not too far from each other here in VA........

Anyways, what I don't get w/ the ICU is them not putting more loyal & devoted people to their cause in more prominent positions.

For example, Sh. Roobow was made Deputy to IndhaCadde.

Sh. Roobow 1st of all is not as contraversial figure as IndhaCadde and more charismatic

Secondly, he knows how to speak better diplomatically

Thirdly, he was comitted to Islam longer.

[THE ELEMENT]

Xaar Playa, the UN Secretary General pointed out "the crucial missing ingredient in Somalia is trust. Without trust, there can be no peace or security in Somalia and no central government can be re-established".

...So, let me point out as well with those sort of child like mentality of yours, your just adding to the problem...ee...grow the f@ck up man!

Now, as we (Puntlanders) have maintained all along, indeed, the most feasible proposition to finding a lasting solution is through the "building blocks" approach from "bottom-up" process leading to a highly decentralized system of government in Somalia.

The Djibouti government ignored this vital approach in that national reconciliation it hosted, which by the way it failed to make a long story short, just like the rest of them ridiculous national reconciliation.

So what is the right approach? Well, the right approach, in our elites view, is to start institution-building from the grass rootsÂ’ level where the local and regional administrations could more realistically cope with the vital and complex questions of peace, stability, self-reliance and development.

President Abdullahi Yusuf, proposed these approaches in our last national reconciliation that took place in Kenya and you wouldÂ’ve known this if youÂ’ve been following it, so again here are the 4-phases that this approach was composed of:

PHASE-1:

A local peace-making and conflict resolution process would be undertaken by Somalis with contributions of logistical assistance by the international organizations working in Somalia as they have some form of presence in most regions of the country. The local process would target areas and regions in crisis to resolve clan conflicts, religious extremist threats and forceful and illegal occupation of other communities' territories. During this phase, a political, legal and traditional Action Plan would be put in place for the unconditional return of illegally seized, looted or occupied public and private property and assets to their rightful owners. A joint Somali and international community severe sanctions would be taken against aggressors, detractors and violators obstructing these activities.

PHASE-2:

To support the completion of the continuing process of Building Blocks and the establishment of regional self-governing States which is in line with the principle of decentralization and inter-community trust-building. It would also lay a solid foundation for a Federal System of Government in Somalia on which system the majority of Somalis agree. This process could, in part, develop in parallel with PHASE-1. The relatively simple, effective, unique, legitimate and unionist process that Puntland went through in establishing its State serves as a practical example.

PHASE-3:

On the realization of PHASES 1 and 2, the elected legitimate leaders of all the regional self-governing States would meet in a National Conference to discuss modalities of forming a National Federal Government at the earliest convenient time, possibly within a period of 6 to 12 months.

PHASE-4:

During the transitional 6 to12 months period, the leaders of the self-governing States of the day and one interim representative from other zones, chosen on certain creditable criteria, would form a National Care-taker Council to act as the custodians of national unity and sovereignty and for the coordination of regional and national policies as well as to represent Somalia at international forums. As new zonal States are established, their leaders would automatically join the Council replacing the interim representatives of their respective zones.

...It was on these bases that he (President Abdullahi Yusuf) was elected on. Sadly, before he could even put to work these ideas and submit more detailed proposals on necessary mechanisms to organize and implement these processes, the ICU was born.

Surely, this ICU group will be an obstacle, but let me assure you no obstacle is too difficult to overcome.

...And I promise you Somalia will be better place once we learn to concentrate our energies and resources on the creation and maintenance of efficient local institutions rather than blind dependence on a centralized state and government.

So, kindly Xaar Playa, put your hateration aside cause it will get you nowhere and give Puntlanders the credit they deserve, since they have always played a leading role in the Somali National Reconciliation Process and in all efforts to reestablish a National Government that restores unity, integrity and respect to the Somali nation.