Meles Zenawi

[dhuusa_deer]

What a surreal discussion we got here. Ethiopia INVADED our country. It pounded our cities from the air and ground. Killed hundreds of Somalis if not more. It left in it's path ruin, wreck, grieve and bitter division. As I write this post there are thousands of Ethiopian soldiers in Somalia. In the midst of it all, in the face of all this "hard" reality on the ground, we're talking about forming EU like union between Somalia (occupied) and Ethiopia (occupier). Without a doubt y'all are smoking the same stuff Ceydiid jr was.

Get your collective heads out of the gutter and think real.

[Alluring]

FreedomofSpeech,

If you have read any of my posts, and know of my presence in here you'd know that I am not a "tree huger" or a political whale. Sometimes, even when it hurts, people need to be nice. Not in the sense of worshipping but in getting their way. Politicians are ruthless individuals but many RARELY show their "true colors." How do you think America has last this long?

[FreedomOfSpeech-]

[quote="Alluring"]FreedomofSpeech,

If you have read any of my posts[/quote]




No I haven't.

Alluring, you're a koo person BUT...*sigh*...i gotta run...i'll tell u some other time...peace


*freedom turns his back on Alluring and walks away*

[michael_ital]

[quote="surria"]:lol:

<<Do you think that calling me names would make your statements stronger?

I didn't call you names. I pointed out the obvious.

<<replying to my argument by attacking the person presenting the argument, in this case moi or the argument itself shows weakness

I did this after you employed the same tactic

<<You are ignorant of Somali and for that matter African history.

I dare say i'm more knowledgable than you. Specifically in regards to the dynamics of a Goliath (though i'm loath to call Tobiya a Goliath. But in this instance they are) in relation to a David

<<Holding the title super heavy weight in a Somali site does not make you an expert.

My Snet status is irrelevant

Bottom line, after I creamed you in my previous response, you chose not to respond with fact, but with weak, ill timed provocative put downs. Typical of Tobiyaan cheerleaders.

[/quote]

[Alluring]

[quote="FreedomOfSpeech-"][quote="Alluring"]FreedomofSpeech,

If you have read any of my posts[/quote]




No I haven't.

Alluring, you're a koo person BUT...*sigh*...i gotta run...i'll tell u some other time...peace


*freedom turns his back on Alluring and walks away*[/quote]

Take care.

[surria]

[quote="michael_ital"][quote="surria"]:lol:

<<Do you think that calling me names would make your statements stronger?

I didn't call you names. I pointed out the obvious.

<<replying to my argument by attacking the person presenting the argument, in this case moi or the argument itself shows weakness

I did this after you employed the same tactic

<<You are ignorant of Somali and for that matter African history.

I dare say i'm more knowledgable than you. Specifically in regards to the dynamics of a Goliath (though i'm loath to call Tobiya a Goliath. But in this instance they are) in relation to a David

<<Holding the title super heavy weight in a Somali site does not make you an expert.

My Snet status is irrelevant

Bottom line, after I creamed you in my previous response, you chose not to respond with fact, but with weak, ill timed provocative put downs. Typical of Tobiyaan cheerleaders.

[/quote][/quote]

You have creamed nothing, except maybe for your coffee this morning ; you still have not provided anything that would add to this discussion. The only argument you have is Ethiopia being the "bully" and you have not said how. My knowledge comes from the fact that I have lived in both countries, was educated in both and I speak the language of one.

Now letÂ’s get down to the facts, shall we?

Ethiopia has never been our enemy, the wars with Ethiopia have been power based wars in which one was waged by the mad mullah who wanted to gain legitimacy after he was chased out of the prosperous city of Barbara and the second was by Siyad Bare who wanted to wage war to distract people from his failing government. Many Somalis have Ethiopian relatives; we are of the same people. This is something you seemed to forget, or not know at all. Even we Somalis are divided on the Ethiopian Issue why would that be? Perhaps the thing you need to do is be humble and learn from the natives, rather than cheerleading to what is the popular opinion of the day.

[gurey25]

yes surria Hail Meles our new President.

We are all the same kulaha..

[surria]

[quote="gurey25"]yes surria Hail Meles our new President.

We are all the same kulaha..[/quote]

Waryaa, guley ka hadal waxa dhulka yaalo hada. Ma meles baa noqday madaxweyne? Runtii ha la isku sheego walaal, runta na waxaa waaye soomalida ma ay dhihi karaan ethopianka ayaa na heysta, maxkamadooda soomali dhulkeeda ma ay joogto, ma garatey.

[Wise-Man]

^^ Suria, kuma hafmin abaayo, ku soo celi ....

[surria]

[quote="Wise-Man"]^^ Suria, kuma hafmin abaayo, ku soo celi ....[/quote]

Balo ku aragtay.

war ma ogtahey in Nabigeena uu u duceeye dadkaas?

[Wise-Man]

Suria, not kuwa iminka jooga. Nabiga, Najaashi ayuu u duceeyey iyo the rest of people who helped Asxaabtii.. But Zenewa's case is totally different. in fact, he destroyed Islamic Courts and want Somali to be a secular country.. So, Suria, duco ma is taahilo Zenewi iyo Geedi midna..

[surria]

[quote="Wise-Man"]Suria, not kuwa iminka jooga. Nabiga, Najaashi ayuu u duceeyey iyo the rest of people who helped Asxaabtii.. But Zenewa's case is totally different. in fact, he destroyed Islamic Courts and want Somali to be a secular country.. So, Suria, duco ma is taahilo Zenewi iyo Geedi midna..[/quote]

Walaahi, qofka kaliya oo la dhihi karo education ayu leeyahay waa shiiq shariif, inta kale oo dhan wax ba ma oga. Taas ka dib, nabigeena waxa uu u duceeyey dhulka ethiopia iyo dadkiisa.

[KUN-DILE]

Meles is perhaps the most smartest dictator that ever walked the face of the african continent. This midget has just killed several birds with just one stone. Even America can't do that.

1. He eliminated the ICU totally defeated them within days
2. He eliminated the ONLF
3. He embarrassed Eritrea at the world stage
4. He rules Mogadishu with his tanks

And not just all that, but the most important thing is that his approval rating in the Western Capitals has sky rocketed and he expects to reap the fruits soon.

He by far the world's happiest midget.

[highclass]

[quote="Lacageylacag"]The only people justifying the MJ/kafir alliance of TFG(totally fake gov one sister said) are from puntland.

Every other somali is crying.[/quote]



In that case the only true Bitcches of the TFG are the Xawadle, TFG fuks with the Mamul of Hiiraan by change it to suit them and then they have this ass lickin Ambassador in Addis Ababa who is Xawadle.


Stop whinning about Puntlan even your Xawadle Leaders like Aden Garooso bring Ethiopians to your cities.

[michael_ital]

<<The only argument you have is Ethiopia being the "bully" and you have not said how.

Of course I have. Re read my posts.

<<My knowledge comes from the fact that I have lived in both countries, was educated in both and I speak the language of one.

I'm straight up calling you a liar here.

<<Now letÂ’s get down to the facts, shall we?

First off, the following are not facts. They're figments of your fertile imagination.

<<Ethiopia has never been our enemy,

Yes, they have.

the wars with Ethiopia have been power based wars

Which was ISN'T a power based war? And who CARES who waged it ? It's irrelevant.

<<Many Somalis have Ethiopian relatives; we are of the same people.

No they don't. And no you're not. You don't REALLY expect me to believe THAT?? What, do I look like I just fell off a camel ???

<< This is something you seemed to forget, or not know at all.

Apparently, I know more about this than you.

<<Even we Somalis are divided on the Ethiopian Issue why would that be?

VERY few Somali's support Xabbashi intervention, and even less support the proposal put forth yesterday.

<<Perhaps the thing you need to do is be humble and learn from the natives, rather than cheerleading to what is the popular opinion of the day.

Perhaps YOU need to do is figure out just what exactly it is you are. One day you're NOT Somali, and another day you are. And my opinions are my own. I could care less what other's here opinions are on this issue.