USA to TFG: Leave the Sheriff Alone: CONDEMNS The TFG
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USA to TFG: Leave the Sheriff Alone: CONDEMNS The TFG
US slams Somali speaker's sacking
Sharif Hassan Sheikh Adan
Somalia's speaker wanted to have talks with the Islamists
Senior US diplomat Jendayi Frazer has criticised a move by Somalia's parliament to sack its speaker.
Sharif Hassan Sheikh Adan was removed for having unauthorised talks with the Islamists, who controlled much of southern Somalia until last month.
He also opposed Ethiopia's intervention to help drive the Islamists out.
Ms Frazer said that a spirit of reconciliation was needed in Somalia, and the no-confidence motion was likely to have a negative impact on dialogue.
Last week, the US launched air strikes in the far south of Somalia against the routed Islamist group, who they accuse of harbouring al-Qaeda members suspected of bombing US embassies in East Africa and a 2002 attack on Israeli targets in Kenya.
POSSIBLE PEACEKEEPERS
8,000-strong force proposed
Uganda: 1,500 troops offered, subject to parliamentary approval
Tanzania: Considering
Nigeria: Considering
Rwanda: Considering
South Africa: Considering but forces stretched
Somali viewpoints
Profile: Ousted speaker
The Islamists denied they were sheltering senior al-Qaeda operatives.
Mr Adan had fallen out with both the interim president and the prime minister over recent developments in Somalia.
But Ms Frazer said the past had to be left behind.
"The symbol of the president and the prime minister combining to push him out is counter to that spirit of reconciliation," the US assistant secretary of state for African affairs told a conference in Washington on the Somali crisis.
"Going forward requires one thing, it requires reconciliation."
Mr Adan, currently on a tour of Europe, said the Ethiopian occupation meant decisions by MPs were null and void.
Ethiopia is estimated to have some 8,000 troops in Somalia help, which it is keen to remove as soon as possible.
Peacekeeping
Meanwhile, UN envoy Francois Lonseny Fall has held discussions with President Abdullahi Yusuf in the capital, Mogadishu.
"To see the president in Villa Somalia [the official residence of Somali presidents] is a very important step. We have to move step by step and we need all efforts to get this country rebuilt," he told reporters, AP news agency reports.
Somali police
The government is trying to restore order in Mogadishu
Mr Yusuf went to Mogadishu last week, for the first time since being elected in 2004.
Regional diplomats are trying muster enough troops for an 8,000-strong African force for Somalia.
So far only Uganda has agreed to provide peacekeepers.
On Tuesday, the leaders of Ethiopia and Kenya said several African countries had offered to contribute troops to the force.
Both South Africa and Tanzania have said it is too early to decide whether they will contribute troops to the proposed African peacekeeping force.
The South African deputy foreign minister, Aziz Pahad, said in a BBC interview that while the need was urgent, his country's armed forces were already over-stretched, with a number of peacekeeping missions in Africa.
Tanzanian President Jakaya Kikwete earlier told the BBC that any troop deployment must first be discussed with military leaders.
Nigeria and Uganda are set to discuss the issue at the end of the month and BBC African analyst Martin Plaut says it would take weeks for any troops to be deployed.
He says that if the Ethiopian forces withdraw before peacekeepers arrive, that could result in a dangerous power vacuum.
Sharif Hassan Sheikh Adan
Somalia's speaker wanted to have talks with the Islamists
Senior US diplomat Jendayi Frazer has criticised a move by Somalia's parliament to sack its speaker.
Sharif Hassan Sheikh Adan was removed for having unauthorised talks with the Islamists, who controlled much of southern Somalia until last month.
He also opposed Ethiopia's intervention to help drive the Islamists out.
Ms Frazer said that a spirit of reconciliation was needed in Somalia, and the no-confidence motion was likely to have a negative impact on dialogue.
Last week, the US launched air strikes in the far south of Somalia against the routed Islamist group, who they accuse of harbouring al-Qaeda members suspected of bombing US embassies in East Africa and a 2002 attack on Israeli targets in Kenya.
POSSIBLE PEACEKEEPERS
8,000-strong force proposed
Uganda: 1,500 troops offered, subject to parliamentary approval
Tanzania: Considering
Nigeria: Considering
Rwanda: Considering
South Africa: Considering but forces stretched
Somali viewpoints
Profile: Ousted speaker
The Islamists denied they were sheltering senior al-Qaeda operatives.
Mr Adan had fallen out with both the interim president and the prime minister over recent developments in Somalia.
But Ms Frazer said the past had to be left behind.
"The symbol of the president and the prime minister combining to push him out is counter to that spirit of reconciliation," the US assistant secretary of state for African affairs told a conference in Washington on the Somali crisis.
"Going forward requires one thing, it requires reconciliation."
Mr Adan, currently on a tour of Europe, said the Ethiopian occupation meant decisions by MPs were null and void.
Ethiopia is estimated to have some 8,000 troops in Somalia help, which it is keen to remove as soon as possible.
Peacekeeping
Meanwhile, UN envoy Francois Lonseny Fall has held discussions with President Abdullahi Yusuf in the capital, Mogadishu.
"To see the president in Villa Somalia [the official residence of Somali presidents] is a very important step. We have to move step by step and we need all efforts to get this country rebuilt," he told reporters, AP news agency reports.
Somali police
The government is trying to restore order in Mogadishu
Mr Yusuf went to Mogadishu last week, for the first time since being elected in 2004.
Regional diplomats are trying muster enough troops for an 8,000-strong African force for Somalia.
So far only Uganda has agreed to provide peacekeepers.
On Tuesday, the leaders of Ethiopia and Kenya said several African countries had offered to contribute troops to the force.
Both South Africa and Tanzania have said it is too early to decide whether they will contribute troops to the proposed African peacekeeping force.
The South African deputy foreign minister, Aziz Pahad, said in a BBC interview that while the need was urgent, his country's armed forces were already over-stretched, with a number of peacekeeping missions in Africa.
Tanzanian President Jakaya Kikwete earlier told the BBC that any troop deployment must first be discussed with military leaders.
Nigeria and Uganda are set to discuss the issue at the end of the month and BBC African analyst Martin Plaut says it would take weeks for any troops to be deployed.
He says that if the Ethiopian forces withdraw before peacekeepers arrive, that could result in a dangerous power vacuum.
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xoogsade:
It is PAX AMERICANA. The Americans are in charge.
So do as they say or they will cut off the little lifeline given to the TFG & returned to the Hawiye factional leaders.
Musika:
Brother, you are correct. The TFG actually thinks they are in CHARGE based on their own power and not that of the Ethios/Americans.
Abdullahi Yusuf thinks he is Afweyne
It is PAX AMERICANA. The Americans are in charge.
So do as they say or they will cut off the little lifeline given to the TFG & returned to the Hawiye factional leaders.
Musika:
Brother, you are correct. The TFG actually thinks they are in CHARGE based on their own power and not that of the Ethios/Americans.
Abdullahi Yusuf thinks he is Afweyne
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Xoog
Qolyahan hadaad Janadii dhex gaysana peace and tranquility ma rabaan oo wey isga soo bixi lahayeen baan u maleynaa..
Did you notice how AW turned the Hawiye propaganda machine once adeerkiis Qaybdid was back
but Aidid Jr, Geedi and A. Yusuf and Hiiraale are ctually the ones calling the shots now and not the Qanyare , the Yalaxow.etc.??
back to the topic...I agree with Muzika this is a pulicity stunt..the guy is gone .
Qolyahan hadaad Janadii dhex gaysana peace and tranquility ma rabaan oo wey isga soo bixi lahayeen baan u maleynaa..
Did you notice how AW turned the Hawiye propaganda machine once adeerkiis Qaybdid was back
but Aidid Jr, Geedi and A. Yusuf and Hiiraale are ctually the ones calling the shots now and not the Qanyare , the Yalaxow.etc.??
back to the topic...I agree with Muzika this is a pulicity stunt..the guy is gone .
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Well, there is no doubt that the Americans are calling the shots, and we know that the TFG is just nominal, they ain't nothing but simple stooges who would do what they are told. If the Americans tell them to jump, the question will be "How high Sir?"
So, if they want the Speaker to be re-nominated, then that is what it will be, no questions will be asked.
XoogSade,
The Speaker has a responsibility towards the Somali ppl who elected him, and he can't just leave the fate of the country in the hands of these warthogs, there has to be someone who has the guts to say NO to the midget.
So, if they want the Speaker to be re-nominated, then that is what it will be, no questions will be asked.
XoogSade,
The Speaker has a responsibility towards the Somali ppl who elected him, and he can't just leave the fate of the country in the hands of these warthogs, there has to be someone who has the guts to say NO to the midget.
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[quote="xoogSADE14"]Shariif is an opportunist piece of sh!t.
bal maxuu isugu dhajinaayay gudoomiyonimada barlamaan uu ugu wacay "laheeysteyaal"?[/quote]
Shariff held the job before Ethios.
The first thing to do is liberate the country. Then talk about xil.
Now Ethiopia has been politely requested to come with a "Reer Baidoa person" to continue the servitude.
bal maxuu isugu dhajinaayay gudoomiyonimada barlamaan uu ugu wacay "laheeysteyaal"?[/quote]
Shariff held the job before Ethios.
The first thing to do is liberate the country. Then talk about xil.
Now Ethiopia has been politely requested to come with a "Reer Baidoa person" to continue the servitude.
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Sir Lug
this might come as a shock to you but i'd actually trust my life with A/Yusuf (whom i'm not particularly fond of or even like) than with Shariif who'll just sell me out to the highest bidder.
eelaayga waxiisu flip-flopping xataa weey dhaafeen.
Cawar
AW and his ilk want to the get the best of both worlds, mooryaanimo & dawladnimo. taasina cid ka yeeleeysa malaha maantoo carigoo dhan dawlada ka taliso?
this might come as a shock to you but i'd actually trust my life with A/Yusuf (whom i'm not particularly fond of or even like) than with Shariif who'll just sell me out to the highest bidder.
eelaayga waxiisu flip-flopping xataa weey dhaafeen.
Cawar
AW and his ilk want to the get the best of both worlds, mooryaanimo & dawladnimo. taasina cid ka yeeleeysa malaha maantoo carigoo dhan dawlada ka taliso?
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Xoog & Cawar:
U too are in no position to make any demands.
Wlc to Xamar. Wlc to Hawiyistan. As a guest in Hawiyistan, I want to give you some tips to ensure your well being and safety:
1. The Days of Darood Power are over -
Remember every Hawiye from the TFG to the shoeshine kid will not allow any Darood sheninagans like the old days.
2. The TFG is a Guest
As all guests, they should walk & tread lighty and show respect to the locals. Once guests forget the hospitality of their hosts, they will be shown the door.
3. Language
Referring to locals as Mooryaan or using any cheap Darood language could result in the offender being kicked out.
U too are in no position to make any demands.
Wlc to Xamar. Wlc to Hawiyistan. As a guest in Hawiyistan, I want to give you some tips to ensure your well being and safety:
1. The Days of Darood Power are over -
Remember every Hawiye from the TFG to the shoeshine kid will not allow any Darood sheninagans like the old days.
2. The TFG is a Guest
As all guests, they should walk & tread lighty and show respect to the locals. Once guests forget the hospitality of their hosts, they will be shown the door.
3. Language
Referring to locals as Mooryaan or using any cheap Darood language could result in the offender being kicked out.
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